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November 2011, 09:22:03 schrieb Alejandro López: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:32 AM, D.Morgan<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>>  wrote: +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Why ?  openjdk is good enough to replace oracle java. +</I>>>>><i> and soonish we will have java7 too in mageia so i really don't see now +</I>>>>><i> the need of the closed source one. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Everything you said is true, but let me disagree with your question. Why +</I>>>><i> not? Some users might prefer Oracle's java, while others might rather use +</I>>>><i> OpenJDK. As long as there are volunteers for maintaining both packages, +</I>>>><i> why +</I>>>><i> shou;d it be one or the other? Why not providing both? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> let me answer this from another perspective. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Mageia is an OpenSource project. So it should be our main goal to promote +</I>>><i> OpenSource software. +</I>>><i> So why should we bother to promote Oracle Jave by creating a workarround +</I>>><i> in +</I>>><i> our packaging system, when they are clearly moving away from the +</I>>><i> OpenSource +</I>>><i> community? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Because the users expect to have it in the repositories. It may be used +</I>><i> against Mageia, if it is not in there (as for flash, proprietary drivers, +</I>><i> ...). +</I>><i> Where do we want to draw the line, as we did the same for skype? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We propagate the repositories as one main advantage of Linux. Everything is +</I>><i> in one trusted source. No more seeking and downloading somewhere in the web +</I>><i> from several sites. Automated updates. How should the uninformed and lazy +</I>><i> user understand, that we didn't provide at least a "get-java" package? +</I> +Yes, you are right: where do we want to draw the line? 2 points: + - Oliver talked about Oracle moving away from Open Source users. + - Oracle java (as Adobe Reader) is not essential for the majority of +users like flashplayer and proprietary drivers and firmware. + +Maybe these points provide the "line to draw" - otherwise we can move +on to all kinds of closed source games and whatever. Users always +"want", it is in their genes. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sun java updates must now be downloaded and installed manually. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sun java updates must now be downloaded and installed manually. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5933">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5933">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5933">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5933">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |