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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Sun java updates must now be downloaded and installed manually.">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com
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+ <I>Wed Nov 23 10:09:25 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2011, 09:56:24 schrieb Thorsten van Lil:
+&gt;<i> Where do we want to draw the line, as we did the same for skype?
+</I>But there is no really usable alternative for skype is there? Ok, there is
+ekiga and others, but you can't use them to communicate with skype users.
+And: skype is an end user software. So there will be quite some people using
+skype who won't find their way to skype.com...
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+&gt;<i> We propagate the repositories as one main advantage of Linux. Everything
+</I>&gt;<i> is in one trusted source. No more seeking and downloading somewhere in
+</I>&gt;<i> the web from several sites. Automated updates. How should the uninformed
+</I>&gt;<i> and lazy user understand, that we didn't provide at least a &quot;get-java&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> package?
+</I>Everything from one trusted source is all right with me, but we don't know
+anything about the trustworthyness of skype, oracle, adobe,...
+Or let's say, we have an opinion about that, but I won't voice it in public
+not to be the target of legal issues :/
+
+And as I said, people needing oracle java instead of OpenJDK will most likely
+be developers, so They know, how to install it. Or they are playing arround
+with stuff downloadad from some site in the web anyway, so why bother to keep
+the rest of their system clean?
+
+Oliver
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