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+ <B>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid</B>
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Friday 07 October 2011 01:17, Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid wrote:
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+I'm a little confused about the review. He is not clear on whether he is upgrading or installing from scratch.
+He says that he starts to install it, but later writes that the installer states that some packages are no longer needed, as if he was upgrading from Mandriva.
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+<PRE>Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Friday 07 October 2011 01:17, Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia review with bad experience
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm a little confused about the review. He is not clear on whether he is upgrading or installing from scratch.
+</I>&gt;<i> He says that he starts to install it, but later writes that the installer states that some packages are no longer needed, as if he was upgrading from Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It is obvious that the reviewer was a little confused -- and I have
+doubts that this confusion has anything to do with Mageia. What can I
+say, we don't choose the reviewers :-\
+ From his comments he seems to have been using a live kde iso of
+Mageia. I didn't get the impression that he was doing an upgrade, but
+who knows ?
+
+His remarks that a desktop design that was in his opinion &quot;ok&quot; 2 years
+ago is &quot;archaic&quot; today sounds like he was deliberately trying to find
+fault, instead of being objective.
+I have the impression that he doesn't have a very good grasp of hardware
+and Linux.
+Or maybe logic. He says he is generally pleased with Mandriva, then
+complains about aspects of Mageia which are just like Mandriva.
+He makes a point about no codecs being available out of the box, which
+probably should be corrected for mga2.
+
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> It is obvious that the reviewer was a little confused -- and I have doubts
+</I>&gt;<i> that this confusion has anything to do with Mageia. &#160;What can I say, we
+</I>&gt;<i> don't choose the reviewers :-\
+</I>
+That's the point. There are zillions of people out there who want to
+share their wisdom, so it is unavoidable to see such reviews.
+
+My favorite part is where he complains about the message &quot;You must add
+media&quot;: how would anybody know what to do with a button &quot;Add media&quot;
+next to the message. :)
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 07 oktober 2011 08:33:10 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2011/10/7 andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It is obvious that the reviewer was a little confused -- and I have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; doubts that this confusion has anything to do with Mageia. What can I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; say, we don't choose the reviewers :-\
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's the point. There are zillions of people out there who want to
+</I>&gt;<i> share their wisdom, so it is unavoidable to see such reviews.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My favorite part is where he complains about the message &quot;You must add
+</I>&gt;<i> media&quot;: how would anybody know what to do with a button &quot;Add media&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> next to the message. :)
+</I>
+yes, that was funny, first he complains of no codec (likely patented) and then
+about no media sources, which would solve the first one. /o\
+
+my favourite part is about the error which he doesn't understand, where it's
+actually saying it's out of disk space. since it's a live version, he likely
+did a live install with not much memory.
+
+also, the partitioner warns him that changing type will remove his data?
+what's wrong about that? both formatting and changing type (if not formatted)
+it's still data gone.
+
+also it starts off with that he expects mageia to diverge from the mandriva
+way. it's an odd premisse to start a review from.
+
+furthermore, he gives alot of subjective feelings.
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+<PRE>On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 09:10, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 07 oktober 2011 08:33:10 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/10/7 andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; It is obvious that the reviewer was a little confused -- and I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; doubts that this confusion has anything to do with Mageia. &#160;What can I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; say, we don't choose the reviewers :-\
+</I>
+But still, this kind of review is still interesting, it hints to
+issues that may seem &quot;obvious&quot; to the rest of us that are obviously
+not. It comes down to who we build this product for, in the end.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> My favorite part is where he complains about the message &quot;You must add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> media&quot;: how would anybody know what to do with a button &quot;Add media&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> next to the message. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> yes, that was funny, first he complains of no codec (likely patented) and then
+</I>&gt;<i> about no media sources, which would solve the first one. /o\
+</I>
+But, as a (new) user, how is he supposed to know firsthand? Couldn't
+the feedback and whole user flow be changed?
+
+For instance, if the only action available to &quot;No medium found&quot; is
+&quot;Add media&quot;, why confuse him by asking what to do? instead of just
+adding the media and asking a further, more to the point question? (or
+doing something else more to the point in this context)
+
+&gt;<i> furthermore, he gives alot of subjective feelings.
+</I>
+That's to be expected from anyone using a device for her own benefit. :-)
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>2011/10/7 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For instance, if the only action available to &quot;No medium found&quot; is
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Add media&quot;, why confuse him by asking what to do? instead of just
+</I>&gt;<i> adding the media and asking a further, more to the point question? (or
+</I>&gt;<i> doing something else more to the point in this context)
+</I>
+There may be users who do not want to add media in that moment (slow
+network, whatever reason), so you must give a choice to either do the
+recommended thing or not. The point here is that the message
+ - states that something is wrong (&quot;No media set&quot;)
+ - gives a hint what to do to &quot;repair&quot; it (&quot;You must add media&quot;)
+To do this the user only has to click on a button which is right
+beside the message and says &quot;Add media&quot;.
+
+But to follow your path into a more &quot;userfriendly system (1)&quot;:
+ - change the message to &quot;There is no media set. You must add a set of
+media for your Software Installation Management. Do you want to add a
+media set?&quot;, followed by buttons for &quot;Yes&quot; - &quot;Ask me again later&quot;
+
+I can not imagine how to do it more userfriendly short of full
+automatism (which we do not want).
+
+(1) &quot;A system is userfriendly if you can use it without thinking!&quot;
+(quote from sorry-forgotten-the-name)
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>Am 07.10.2011 08:33, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2011/10/7 andre999&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is obvious that the reviewer was a little confused -- and I have doubts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that this confusion has anything to do with Mageia. What can I say, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't choose the reviewers :-\
+</I>&gt;<i> That's the point. There are zillions of people out there who want to
+</I>&gt;<i> share their wisdom, so it is unavoidable to see such reviews.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My favorite part is where he complains about the message &quot;You must add
+</I>&gt;<i> media&quot;: how would anybody know what to do with a button &quot;Add media&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> next to the message. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>My favorite part is where he posts a screenshot of the desktop, which is
+perfectly crisp
+and then finds &quot;the rendering of elements is fuzzy&quot; and also complains about
+upstream
+KDE icons, where he also posts a screenshot and invalidates his own complaints.
+
+The wireless icon is centered as the others, and if you would turn the
+percentage indicator over the battery icon, i think he would complain that
+he needs to turn his head so he can read it :)
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+&gt;<i> on Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:35
+</I>&gt;<i> in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.user
+</I>&gt;<i> Norman Carver wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Set up a new server for home use (DNS, files, etc.) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was gratified to find it using around 50 watts when the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> older machine it replaces was using around 90.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, just before sticking it in the closet, I changed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it to runlevel 3 since I won't be using the GUI typically.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I had assumed this might reduce power usage a bit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more, but surprisingly it caused the power draw to go UP
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by about 3 watts! I thought it a fluke, but verified that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is a real phenomenon: the machine draws about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3 watts less when X and KDE are running than when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> they are not. Seems like running more processes should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cause more power usage. Any ideas what might be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> causing what I see? Odd.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I note that:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (1) I set kernel scaling_governor parameter for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> each core to ondemand for any runlevel;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (2) whether logged into KDE or just sitting at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> DM the power usage is stabilizes at the same level
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when in runlevel 5;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (3) I have not made any power settings in KDE and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the power applet is not running;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (4) runlevel 5 has all the same services as runleve 5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> plus: dm and atieventsd.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for any insights!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Norm
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you measure the power consumption of the monitor
+</I>&gt;<i> separately? Or anything else that is plugged into
+</I>&gt;<i> the system. If you like mucking around for the fun
+</I>&gt;<i> of mucking around, try unplugging things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>post the output from [as root]
+&quot;diff /etc/rc.d/rc3.d /etc/rc.d/rc5.d&quot;
+
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+&gt;<i> Am 07.10.2011 08:33, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/10/7 andre999&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It is obvious that the reviewer was a little confused -- and I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> doubts
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that this confusion has anything to do with Mageia. What can I say, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> don't choose the reviewers :-\
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's the point. There are zillions of people out there who want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> share their wisdom, so it is unavoidable to see such reviews.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My favorite part is where he complains about the message &quot;You must add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> media&quot;: how would anybody know what to do with a button &quot;Add media&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> next to the message. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My favorite part is where he posts a screenshot of the desktop, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> perfectly crisp
+</I>&gt;<i> and then finds &quot;the rendering of elements is fuzzy&quot; and also complains
+</I>&gt;<i> about upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE icons, where he also posts a screenshot and invalidates his own
+</I>&gt;<i> complaints.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The wireless icon is centered as the others, and if you would turn the
+</I>&gt;<i> percentage indicator over the battery icon, i think he would complain that
+</I>&gt;<i> he needs to turn his head so he can read it :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Maybe his screen needs cleaning. ;^)
+
+No fuzziness here, on my 23-inch Samsung HD flatscreen. Installed using
+plug-and-play, easy as could be...
+
+People keep calling Mageia a fork of Mandriva. The way things are going,
+I consider Mandriva to be the fork. It's the distro that moved off in a
+different direction.
+
+TJ
+
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+<PRE>This part of the review set me thinking:
+
+&gt;<i> When I say much better, I mean a hundred questions asking you to choose
+</I>&gt;<i> your keyboard, language, timezone, and whatnot, a very Mandriva-like
+</I>&gt;<i> practice. Some distributions, like PCLinuxOS managed to keep the
+</I>&gt;<i> questionnaire down to a minimum, but Mageia throws the full plethora of
+</I>&gt;<i> options at you, which is hardly what you want or expect.
+</I>
+Could there be a way for the live distro to detect the presence of an existing
+install on the HD of the box, and if so get from there all this information
+needed to launch the live CD ?
+Possibly checking with the user that it is all right to do so in case he wants
+other settings ?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Zwei Dinge sind unendlich: das Universum und die menschliche Dummheit,
+ aber bei dem Universum bin ich mir noch nicht ganz sicher.
+ -- Albert Einstein
+
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