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+ <B>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20I%27d%20like%20to%20start%20to%20discuss%20the%20possibility%20of%0A%20having%20one%20language%20per%20iso%20when%20it%20comes%20to%20full%20DVD-versions%2C%0A%20similar%20to%20the%20Live-versions.&In-Reply-To=%3C4E6FFA83.7050001%40gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Hi!
+
+A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have
+more languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+
+I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little proposal
+that I've got.
+
+Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16
+languages each.
+
+Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a
+Live-system &amp; to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of
+question.
+
+How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+
+My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only, but
+more iso's in the end.
+
+Like this:
+
+mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+<A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+
+The result is that you shrink the DVD much &amp; you can add other stuff
+that doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps add
+more drivers.
+
+I got my idea from looking in the Mozilla-way of showing people how to
+find their language-version of Firefox, Thunderbird etc.....
+
+Don't get me wrong about this....... I really really really REEEEEEAALLY
+love Mageia &amp; I intend to continue using it for all future, but I just
+wanted to make a proposition that makes the choice of iso much easier.
+
+Please think about it &amp; discuss the pro's &amp; con's.
+
+Love
+
+/Kristoffer a.k.a Umeaboy
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Kira</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20I%27d%20like%20to%20start%20to%20discuss%20the%20possibility%0A%20of%20having%20one%20language%20per%20iso%20when%20it%20comes%20to%20full%20DVD-versions%2C%0A%20similar%20to%20the%20Live-versions.&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.v1rwvelect0cxl%40kira-notebook.kirayao%3E"
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+<PRE>&#22312; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:51:15 +0800, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have
+</I>&gt;<i> more languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little proposal
+</I>&gt;<i> that I've got.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16
+</I>&gt;<i> languages each.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a
+</I>&gt;<i> Live-system &amp; to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of
+</I>&gt;<i> question.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only, but
+</I>&gt;<i> more iso's in the end.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The result is that you shrink the DVD much &amp; you can add other stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> that doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps add
+</I>&gt;<i> more drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got my idea from looking in the Mozilla-way of showing people how to
+</I>&gt;<i> find their language-version of Firefox, Thunderbird etc.....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't get me wrong about this....... I really really really REEEEEEAALLY
+</I>&gt;<i> love Mageia &amp; I intend to continue using it for all future, but I just
+</I>&gt;<i> wanted to make a proposition that makes the choice of iso much easier.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please think about it &amp; discuss the pro's &amp; con's.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>A Major question: So you got about 50~60 or even more different ISO
+
+with only difference in language? I think that would cause too much
+
+mirror resource and not too many mirror would like to offer the services.
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20I%27d%20like%20to%20start%20to%20discuss%20the%20possibility%0A%20of%20having%20one%20language%20per%20iso%20when%20it%20comes%20to%20full%20DVD-versions%2C%0A%20similar%20to%20the%20Live-versions.&In-Reply-To=%3C4E6FFD09.1050108%40gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Kira skrev 2011-09-14 02:55:
+&gt;<i> &#22312; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:51:15 +0800, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have more languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> proposal that I've got.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> languages each.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Live-system &amp; to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> question.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but more iso's in the end.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Like this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The result is that you shrink the DVD much &amp; you can add other stuff
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> add more drivers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I got my idea from looking in the Mozilla-way of showing people how
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to find their language-version of Firefox, Thunderbird etc.....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Don't get me wrong about this....... I really really really
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> REEEEEEAALLY love Mageia &amp; I intend to continue using it for all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> future, but I just wanted to make a proposition that makes the choice
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of iso much easier.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please think about it &amp; discuss the pro's &amp; con's.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A Major question: So you got about 50~60 or even more different ISO
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> with only difference in language? I think that would cause too much
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror resource and not too many mirror would like to offer the services.
+</I>Well, all problems can be solved. This is just a cosmetical issue.
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>On Tuesday 13 Sep 2011 20:55 my mailbox was graced by a message from Kira who
+wrote:
+&gt;<i> A Major question: So you got about 50~60 or even more different ISO
+</I>&gt;<i> with only difference in language? I think that would cause too much
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror resource and not too many mirror would like to offer the services.
+</I>
+I am probably in a minority, but while I only use one language for my system,
+I use French, English, Spanish, German and Portuguese installed in libre-
+office, which means all the locales, the spell flies, etc..
+
+Were the single language DVD put in place I would need five DVDs for my
+install; and one DVD already takes several days to download ! ....
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron. on the banks of the Paraguay River.
+--
+ On est jamais si malheureux qu'on croit,
+ ni si heureux qu'on esp&#232;re.
+ -- Duc de Larochefoucault
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <B>Kira</B>
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+<PRE>&#22312; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:02:01 +0800, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+&gt;&gt;<i> A Major question: So you got about 50~60 or even more different ISO
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with only difference in language? I think that would cause too much
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mirror resource and not too many mirror would like to offer the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> services.
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, all problems can be solved. This is just a cosmetical issue.
+</I>You haven't got the point. Not every server can be controlled by
+
+ourselves. Most of the time, we just ask them to add Mageia into
+
+their mirroring services. So, if we want to make them mirror all the
+
+ISO, it would caused too much bandwidth and storage, which may cause them
+
+to refuse mirroring Mageia.
+
+Also, with more ISO, the work of QA would be tons heavier: More ISO to be
+tested
+
+by them.
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 14 September 2011 02:51, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m wrote:
+&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have
+</I>&gt;<i> more languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16
+</I>&gt;<i> languages each.
+</I>
+I fail to see the problem.
+Last time I checked, Mageia gives the user a choice of what language to use during install, and it only install the selected languages.
+It does not install all 16 languages, only one or two, depending on whether you selected one or two languates to use, during the install.
+Besides, the DVD isn't limited to 16 languages. As far as I can determine, the DVDs have all possible languages on the disk.
+
+There are some users who have more that one user account on the machine, where the users have diferent languages.
+A friend of mine is norwegian, and have a chinese wife. Having three languages (norwegian, english, chinese) make it very easy for both of them to use the same machine.
+If we start to limit an install to only one possible language, we make it very difficult for many users.
+
+Even Microsoft have started including all languages on the same installation medium. :-)=
+
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+ <B>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m</B>
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+<PRE>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati skrev 2011-09-14 03:08:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday 13 Sep 2011 20:55 my mailbox was graced by a message from Kira who
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A Major question: So you got about 50~60 or even more different ISO
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with only difference in language? I think that would cause too much
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mirror resource and not too many mirror would like to offer the services.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am probably in a minority, but while I only use one language for my system,
+</I>&gt;<i> I use French, English, Spanish, German and Portuguese installed in libre-
+</I>&gt;<i> office, which means all the locales, the spell flies, etc..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Were the single language DVD put in place I would need five DVDs for my
+</I>&gt;<i> install; and one DVD already takes several days to download ! ....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron. on the banks of the Paraguay River.
+</I>OK. I'll look into the possibility of making this dream to become true
+because the tools for it already exist. The only thing missing is a
+person that can make this iso.
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+<PRE>Kira skrev 2011-09-14 03:18:
+&gt;<i> &#22312; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:02:01 +0800, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A Major question: So you got about 50~60 or even more different ISO
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with only difference in language? I think that would cause too much
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mirror resource and not too many mirror would like to offer the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> services.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, all problems can be solved. This is just a cosmetical issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> You haven't got the point. Not every server can be controlled by
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ourselves. Most of the time, we just ask them to add Mageia into
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> their mirroring services. So, if we want to make them mirror all the
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ISO, it would caused too much bandwidth and storage, which may cause them
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to refuse mirroring Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, with more ISO, the work of QA would be tons heavier: More ISO to
+</I>&gt;<i> be tested
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> by them.
+</I>You have a point there, but I still like to ask more people to see what
+they think. There are places that offers mirroringspaces besides that to
+so that's not a problem either.
+
+The Ume&#229; University here in Ume&#229; have a fast/reliable server to ask
+about this.
+There's nothing wrong with asking, right?
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 14 September 2011 02:51, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> languages each.
+</I>&gt;<i> I fail to see the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> Last time I checked, Mageia gives the user a choice of what language to use during install, and it only install the selected languages.
+</I>&gt;<i> It does not install all 16 languages, only one or two, depending on whether you selected one or two languates to use, during the install.
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, the DVD isn't limited to 16 languages. As far as I can determine, the DVDs have all possible languages on the disk.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are some users who have more that one user account on the machine, where the users have diferent languages.
+</I>&gt;<i> A friend of mine is norwegian, and have a chinese wife. Having three languages (norwegian, english, chinese) make it very easy for both of them to use the same machine.
+</I>&gt;<i> If we start to limit an install to only one possible language, we make it very difficult for many users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even Microsoft have started including all languages on the same installation medium. :-)=
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The extra-languages can be installed after the full-installation using
+urpmi.
+
+urpmi locale-en_GB etc. etc.
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+&gt;<i> The extra-languages can be installed after the full-installation using
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi.
+</I>
+Again, I fail to see what problem you are trying to solve.
+
+If the problem is that the Live DVD currently install all languages, the solution surely is to change it's installer to give the user a choice about what language to install. Or possibly change it so it only installs the language the user currently uses in the live session.
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 14 September 2011 03:29, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The extra-languages can be installed after the full-installation using
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi.
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, I fail to see what problem you are trying to solve.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the problem is that the Live DVD currently install all languages, the solution surely is to change it's installer to give the user a choice about what language to install. Or possibly change it so it only installs the language the user currently uses in the live session.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yes, but the Live-version of Mageia isn't what people want to use when
+they've decided to use Mageia.
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+&gt;<i> Am 13.09.2011 16:25, schrieb TJ:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/12/2011 06:21 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We are mainly interested in cases where hplip is currently
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> working, to ensure this update doesn't create any new problems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Would love to, but my printers (Officejet 6110 and Deskjet 5650) both
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have a problem when it comes to the duplexer and print jobs with an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> odd number of pages. Same problem appeared in Mandriva 2010.1/2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unfortunately, the guys over at hplip haven't been able to duplicate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the problem, at least on Mandriva, so it must be something unique to me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Otherwise, though, hplip 3.11.3a has been working fine. Would my test
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> still yield valid info for you?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, it would, please test if everything still works or maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> even that your problem is fixed with the update ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>OK, but not tonight. I just put in 11 hours as an Election Inspector in
+a primary election, and I'm too bushed to do much other than go to bed.
+At least it wasn't the general election in November. That's a 17-hour day...
+
+TJ
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+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have more
+</I>&gt;<i> languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little proposal that
+</I>&gt;<i> I've got.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16 languages
+</I>&gt;<i> each.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a Live-system &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of question.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only, but more
+</I>&gt;<i> iso's in the end.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The result is that you shrink the DVD much &amp; you can add other stuff that
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps add more
+</I>&gt;<i> drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got my idea from looking in the Mozilla-way of showing people how to find
+</I>&gt;<i> their language-version of Firefox, Thunderbird etc.....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't get me wrong about this....... I really really really REEEEEEAALLY
+</I>&gt;<i> love Mageia &amp; I intend to continue using it for all future, but I just
+</I>&gt;<i> wanted to make a proposition that makes the choice of iso much easier.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please think about it &amp; discuss the pro's &amp; con's.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I can only agree to the various points all the other posters already wrote.
+As one of the mirror maintainers I can assure you, I'd ask Mageia what
+they smoked lately if they came around with such a release.
+As one of the iso testers before release I would ask how many people
+you can round-up to do the final testing of all those isos.
+Have you asked those who compile the isos and upload them about how
+much extra work this would mean?
+
+Although I understand the reason for such an idea I also understand
+that it is a no-go for various reasons.
+
+--
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+<PRE>2011/9/14 Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Johnny A. Solbu skrev 2011-09-14 03:41:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 14 September 2011 03:29, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The extra-languages can be installed after the full-installation using
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Again, I fail to see what problem you are trying to solve.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the problem is that the Live DVD currently install all languages, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> solution surely is to change it's installer to give the user a choice about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what language to install. Or possibly change it so it only installs the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> language the user currently uses in the live session.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, but the Live-version of Mageia isn't what people want to use when
+</I>&gt;<i> they've decided to use Mageia.
+</I>
+Where did you get that idea? There's a large part of the users who
+prefer the live isos because they get their proprietary drivers
+installed and because they prefer (or have to prefer) 700MB isos
+instead of 4GB isos. Look at the many requests for live isos during
+the beta stage when we released dvds first.
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Alejandro L&#243;pez</B>
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+<PRE>I think that it is too much work for very little gain.
+
+The cost of creating, maintaining and mirroring different ISOs is very high.
+
+And what do we gain by doing this? More free space in the DVD? Yes,
+some applications could be added, but as it is impossible to include
+all the applications in a DVD, a lot of them will still be left out.
+
+A *minor* problem is that some people use several languages, not for
+the system, but for some applications like LibreOffice, Thunderbird,
+etc. Personally I use Spanish, English and French. If there was a
+single language in the ISO, users would have to go and download the
+other languages. As I said, a minor problem.
+
+My 2 cents.
+Alejandro.
+
+On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have more
+</I>&gt;<i> languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little proposal that
+</I>&gt;<i> I've got.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16 languages
+</I>&gt;<i> each.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a Live-system &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of question.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only, but more
+</I>&gt;<i> iso's in the end.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The result is that you shrink the DVD much &amp; you can add other stuff that
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps add more
+</I>&gt;<i> drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got my idea from looking in the Mozilla-way of showing people how to find
+</I>&gt;<i> their language-version of Firefox, Thunderbird etc.....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't get me wrong about this....... I really really really REEEEEEAALLY
+</I>&gt;<i> love Mageia &amp; I intend to continue using it for all future, but I just
+</I>&gt;<i> wanted to make a proposition that makes the choice of iso much easier.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please think about it &amp; discuss the pro's &amp; con's.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Love
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /Kristoffer a.k.a Umeaboy
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+wrong list. Can someone tell me which would be the right list?
+
+2011/9/11 Alejandro L&#243;pez &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have my system running in spanish and LibreOffice was correctly installed
+</I>&gt;<i> in spanish and spell checker is working fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I usually write documents also in french and english. I'm trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> install the dictionaries for those extra languages without success. Are
+</I>&gt;<i> there packages in mageia for that? I tried with the libreoffice-langpack-*
+</I>&gt;<i> packages but when I try to select any of them I get this error:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> Following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-fr-3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1.i586 (because libreoffice-core[==
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1] is not satisfied)
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and the package is deselected. Needless to say that the libreoffice-core
+</I>&gt;<i> package I have installed in my system is exactly 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My questions are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - are the langpack packages the way to install dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - If yes, why then I get this error message?
+</I>&gt;<i> - If not, which is then the right method for installing dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have more
+</I>&gt;<i> languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little proposal
+</I>&gt;<i> that I've got.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16 languages
+</I>&gt;<i> each.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a Live-system &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of question.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only, but
+</I>&gt;<i> more iso's in the end.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The result is that you shrink the DVD much &amp; you can add other stuff that
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps add more
+</I>&gt;<i> drivers.
+</I>
+Yes, but you will get an iso with unnessecary drivers. And unnessecary
+applications. Maybe we can make ISOs with only one language, one driver
+and one application ?
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+<PRE>Am 14.09.2011 10:07, schrieb Alejandro L&#243;pez:
+&gt;<i> As I got not one answer for this question, I presume I asked in the
+</I>&gt;<i> wrong list. Can someone tell me which would be the right list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011/9/11 Alejandro L&#243;pez&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have my system running in spanish and LibreOffice was correctly installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in spanish and spell checker is working fine.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, I usually write documents also in french and english. I'm trying to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install the dictionaries for those extra languages without success. Are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there packages in mageia for that? I tried with the libreoffice-langpack-*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages but when I try to select any of them I get this error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-fr-3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1.i586 (because libreoffice-core[==
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1] is not satisfied)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and the package is deselected. Needless to say that the libreoffice-core
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package I have installed in my system is exactly 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My questions are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - are the langpack packages the way to install dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - If yes, why then I get this error message?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - If not, which is then the right method for installing dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>I'm not into libreoffice, but i think it uses myspell dictionaries.
+The libreoffice-fr package only contains french translations of libreoffice,
+AFAIK. You want myspell-fr_FR and one of the myspell-en_ variants
+(en_GB, en_US, en_ZA ...)
+
+About the installation problem i'm not sure, but maybe the forum
+is better suited than this list for troubleshooting?
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+<PRE>2011/9/14 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little proposal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that I've got.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16 languages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> each.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a Live-system &amp;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of question.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more iso's in the end.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Like this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The result is that you shrink the DVD much &amp; you can add other stuff that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps add more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, but you will get an iso with unnessecary drivers. And unnessecary
+</I>&gt;<i> applications. Maybe we can make ISOs with only one language, one driver
+</I>&gt;<i> and one application ?
+</I>
+LOL!
+
+But here's a suggestion for Kristoffer: How about making your own?
+
+You (or somebody else in your local community) could make a custom
+made &quot;Swedish Edition&quot;, may be also with a fixed set of drivers.
+Upload it to somewhere and advertize the edition here or in a
+localized Mageia page, according to your mail there are lots of
+servers with enough space and bandwidth to host isos.
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 14.09.2011 10:07, schrieb Alejandro L&#243;pez:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As I got not one answer for this question, I presume I asked in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrong list. Can someone tell me which would be the right list?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/9/11 Alejandro L&#243;pez&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have my system running in spanish and LibreOffice was correctly
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in spanish and spell checker is working fine.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> However, I usually write documents also in french and english. I'm trying
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install the dictionaries for those extra languages without success. Are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there packages in mageia for that? I tried with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages but when I try to select any of them I get this error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-fr-3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1.i586 (because
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-core[==
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1] is not satisfied)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and the package is deselected. Needless to say that the libreoffice-core
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package I have installed in my system is exactly 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My questions are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - are the langpack packages the way to install dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - If yes, why then I get this error message?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - If not, which is then the right method for installing dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not into libreoffice, but i think it uses myspell dictionaries.
+</I>&gt;<i> The libreoffice-fr package only contains french translations of libreoffice,
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK. You want myspell-fr_FR and one of the myspell-en_ variants
+</I>&gt;<i> (en_GB, en_US, en_ZA ...)
+</I>
+I'll take a look from point of view.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> About the installation problem i'm not sure, but maybe the forum
+</I>&gt;<i> is better suited than this list for troubleshooting?
+</I>
+Thanks. I thought this mailling list was for this type of questions.
+Sorry for the noise.
+
+
+Alejandro.
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+On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:00:31 +0200
+Alejandro L&#243;pez &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Am 14.09.2011 10:07, schrieb Alejandro L&#243;pez:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As I got not one answer for this question, I presume I asked in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; wrong list. Can someone tell me which would be the right list?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2011/9/11 Alejandro L&#243;pez&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I have my system running in spanish and LibreOffice was correctly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; installed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; in spanish and spell checker is working fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; However, I usually write documents also in french and english. I'm trying
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; install the dictionaries for those extra languages without success. Are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; there packages in mageia for that? I tried with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; libreoffice-langpack-*
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; packages but when I try to select any of them I get this error:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; libreoffice-langpack-fr-3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1.i586 (because
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; libreoffice-core[==
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1] is not satisfied)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; and the package is deselected. Needless to say that the libreoffice-core
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; package I have installed in my system is exactly 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; My questions are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - are the langpack packages the way to install dictionaries?
+</I>
+No, usually you need to install the corresponding extension
+(.oxt-file).
+You can find extensions here:
+<A HREF="http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/">http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/</A> Yes, this is an
+openoffice-link, but those extensions work for libreoffice as well.
+(If you experience any problems with the download (like a timeout),
+just hit reload as many times as possible. There are a few problems
+with the availability of the server...
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - If yes, why then I get this error message?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - If not, which is then the right method for installing dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not into libreoffice, but i think it uses myspell dictionaries.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The libreoffice-fr package only contains french translations of libreoffice,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; AFAIK. You want myspell-fr_FR and one of the myspell-en_ variants
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (en_GB, en_US, en_ZA ...)
+</I>
+Florian, I'm not sure that libreoffice uses myspell. I thought it
+uses hunspell. But I can be wrong of course. But looking at my Mageia
+Installation, I only have aspell and hunspell installed. And I have a
+German dictionary for LibreOffice. :)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; About the installation problem i'm not sure, but maybe the forum
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is better suited than this list for troubleshooting?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks. I thought this mailling list was for this type of questions.
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for the noise.
+</I>
+Don't be sorry. You can ask such questions here. Or in the forum.
+What ever you prefer.
+
+Sigrid
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+<PRE>On Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:32:32 nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; more languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>
+What is the benefit to removing a language one particular user doesn't need?
+What is the cost (to other users who may need locales).
+
+Note that languages are a specific problem, due to how initial installation of
+the distribution is different to package installation (it is more difficult to
+add languages post-install exactly the same as if you had selected them during
+install, compared to how easy it is to add more packages that you didn't
+select or weren't available during installation).
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little proposal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that I've got.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16 languages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; each.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a Live-system
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &amp; to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of question.
+</I>
+Maybe we should go back to *why* there are multiple live images with subsets
+of languages. It is *not* so the user has the convenience of not choosing
+their language, but because it is difficult to have a &quot;complete&quot; enough system
+catering to most use cases in under 700MB that supports all the languages. So
+for example, the choice is to drop LibreOffice, or only support a few
+languages per ISO.
+
+If the software for a good default install would fit on
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; more iso's in the end.
+</I>
+So, it is your opinion that &gt;90% of the users use more than ~ 60% of the
+software that will fit on a DVD ISO (without any other languages)?
+
+Maybe you should start off with your proposal of what these packages are that
+are so important to be included on 100 DVD ISOs.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Like this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The result is that you shrink the DVD much &amp; you can add other stuff that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps add more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, but you will get an iso with unnessecary drivers. And unnessecary
+</I>&gt;<i> applications. Maybe we can make ISOs with only one language, one driver
+</I>&gt;<i> and one application ?
+</I>
+It starts to sound like it should just be a custom live image made with
+draklive ...
+
+Why stop there? What about variations for authentication libraries (e.g., some
+people may not want *any* LDAP in their system)? In this case, we may want to
+have versions of the packages built without LDAP support. Same for PAM (like
+Slackware). Same for databases. Maybe one without any php? One for python-
+haters (let's hope they don't have HP printers)?
+
+Maybe a Gentoo-based system that compiles the whole distro with the selected
+features and genearates an ISO. But, then, why generate the ISO, updates would
+have to be customised anyway.
+
+It seems you have come up with a solution to a problem that either does not
+exist, or that you have not been able to communicate, with significant costs
+on *everyone* involved in the distribution, with no motivated benefits.
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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+<PRE>On 14/09/2011 10:00, Alejandro L&#243;pez wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Florian Hubold&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 14.09.2011 10:07, schrieb Alejandro L&#243;pez:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As I got not one answer for this question, I presume I asked in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrong list. Can someone tell me which would be the right list?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/9/11 Alejandro L&#243;pez&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have my system running in spanish and LibreOffice was correctly
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in spanish and spell checker is working fine.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> However, I usually write documents also in french and english. I'm trying
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install the dictionaries for those extra languages without success. Are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there packages in mageia for that? I tried with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages but when I try to select any of them I get this error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-fr-3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1.i586 (because
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-core[==
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1] is not satisfied)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and the package is deselected. Needless to say that the libreoffice-core
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package I have installed in my system is exactly 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My questions are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - are the langpack packages the way to install dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - If yes, why then I get this error message?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - If not, which is then the right method for installing dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not into libreoffice, but i think it uses myspell dictionaries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The libreoffice-fr package only contains french translations of libreoffice,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK. You want myspell-fr_FR and one of the myspell-en_ variants
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (en_GB, en_US, en_ZA ...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll take a look from point of view.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> About the installation problem i'm not sure, but maybe the forum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is better suited than this list for troubleshooting?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks. I thought this mailling list was for this type of questions.
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for the noise.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+IIRC, libre-office uses hunspell by default, and so you should probably
+try installing the appropriate hunspell-xx package(s).
+
+Jim
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+I want to notify that I did open the bug reports concerning the tools I
+complained about.
+
+I attempted to explain the issues the best way possible, with
+complementary information attached.
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2708">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2708</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2709">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2709</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2712">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2712</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2713">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2713</A>
+
+Feel free to ask me for complementary information, and am opened to
+discussion. All I want is a tool that does its job and that is comfortable.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Thomas.
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+<PRE>Am 14.09.2011 11:50, schrieb Sigrid Carrera:
+&gt;<i> Hi Alejandro, *,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:00:31 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Alejandro L&#243;pez&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Florian Hubold&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 14.09.2011 10:07, schrieb Alejandro L&#243;pez:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As I got not one answer for this question, I presume I asked in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrong list. Can someone tell me which would be the right list?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/9/11 Alejandro L&#243;pez&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have my system running in spanish and LibreOffice was correctly
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in spanish and spell checker is working fine.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> However, I usually write documents also in french and english. I'm trying
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install the dictionaries for those extra languages without success. Are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there packages in mageia for that? I tried with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages but when I try to select any of them I get this error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-fr-3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1.i586 (because
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-core[==
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1] is not satisfied)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and the package is deselected. Needless to say that the libreoffice-core
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package I have installed in my system is exactly 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My questions are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - are the langpack packages the way to install dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;<i> No, usually you need to install the corresponding extension
+</I>&gt;<i> (.oxt-file).
+</I>&gt;<i> You can find extensions here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/">http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/</A> Yes, this is an
+</I>&gt;<i> openoffice-link, but those extensions work for libreoffice as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> (If you experience any problems with the download (like a timeout),
+</I>&gt;<i> just hit reload as many times as possible. There are a few problems
+</I>&gt;<i> with the availability of the server...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - If yes, why then I get this error message?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - If not, which is then the right method for installing dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not into libreoffice, but i think it uses myspell dictionaries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The libreoffice-fr package only contains french translations of libreoffice,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK. You want myspell-fr_FR and one of the myspell-en_ variants
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (en_GB, en_US, en_ZA ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> Florian, I'm not sure that libreoffice uses myspell. I thought it
+</I>&gt;<i> uses hunspell. But I can be wrong of course. But looking at my Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> Installation, I only have aspell and hunspell installed. And I have a
+</I>&gt;<i> German dictionary for LibreOffice. :)
+</I>Uhmm, sorry i confused myspell for aspell. Spellchecking from packages
+point of view is rather difficult, f.ex. Firefox uses hunspell as spellchecker,
+but myspell-$lang packages provide the dictionaries.
+
+As you're more into {libre,open}office, could you ask somebody about
+definitive informations which spellchecker it uses, which dictionaries and
+if the extensions is really needed. I thought that extension is already
+contained in libfreoffice-$lang, no?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> About the installation problem i'm not sure, but maybe the forum
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is better suited than this list for troubleshooting?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks. I thought this mailling list was for this type of questions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry for the noise.
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't be sorry. You can ask such questions here. Or in the forum.
+</I>&gt;<i> What ever you prefer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sigrid
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:32:32 nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the benefit to removing a language one particular user doesn't need?
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the cost (to other users who may need locales).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that languages are a specific problem, due to how initial installation of
+</I>&gt;<i> the distribution is different to package installation (it is more difficult to
+</I>&gt;<i> add languages post-install exactly the same as if you had selected them during
+</I>&gt;<i> install, compared to how easy it is to add more packages that you didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> select or weren't available during installation).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little proposal
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that I've got.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16 languages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> each.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a Live-system
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &amp; to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of question.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we should go back to *why* there are multiple live images with subsets
+</I>&gt;<i> of languages. It is *not* so the user has the convenience of not choosing
+</I>&gt;<i> their language, but because it is difficult to have a &quot;complete&quot; enough system
+</I>&gt;<i> catering to most use cases in under 700MB that supports all the languages. So
+</I>&gt;<i> for example, the choice is to drop LibreOffice, or only support a few
+</I>&gt;<i> languages per ISO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the software for a good default install would fit on
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more iso's in the end.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, it is your opinion that&gt;90% of the users use more than ~ 60% of the
+</I>&gt;<i> software that will fit on a DVD ISO (without any other languages)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you should start off with your proposal of what these packages are that
+</I>&gt;<i> are so important to be included on 100 DVD ISOs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Like this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The result is that you shrink the DVD much&amp; you can add other stuff that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps add more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> drivers.
+</I>
+I think that you are deluding yourself about how much space is saved. Language
+files tend to be very small, compared to binaries.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, but you will get an iso with unnessecary drivers. And unnessecary
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> applications. Maybe we can make ISOs with only one language, one driver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and one application ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It starts to sound like it should just be a custom live image made with
+</I>&gt;<i> draklive ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why stop there? What about variations for authentication libraries (e.g., some
+</I>&gt;<i> people may not want *any* LDAP in their system)? In this case, we may want to
+</I>&gt;<i> have versions of the packages built without LDAP support. Same for PAM (like
+</I>&gt;<i> Slackware). Same for databases. Maybe one without any php? One for python-
+</I>&gt;<i> haters (let's hope they don't have HP printers)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe a Gentoo-based system that compiles the whole distro with the selected
+</I>&gt;<i> features and genearates an ISO. But, then, why generate the ISO, updates would
+</I>&gt;<i> have to be customised anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems you have come up with a solution to a problem that either does not
+</I>&gt;<i> exist, or that you have not been able to communicate, with significant costs
+</I>&gt;<i> on *everyone* involved in the distribution, with no motivated benefits.
+</I>
+We could end up being the only 1000-iso distro !
+We'd make it to the Guiness book of records :) :) :)
+
+&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>Sigrid Carrera a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Alejandro, *,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:00:31 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Alejandro L&#243;pez&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Florian Hubold&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 14.09.2011 10:07, schrieb Alejandro L&#243;pez:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As I got not one answer for this question, I presume I asked in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrong list. Can someone tell me which would be the right list?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/9/11 Alejandro L&#243;pez&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">listas.apl at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have my system running in spanish and LibreOffice was correctly
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in spanish and spell checker is working fine.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> However, I usually write documents also in french and english. I'm trying
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install the dictionaries for those extra languages without success. Are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there packages in mageia for that? I tried with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages but when I try to select any of them I get this error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-langpack-fr-3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1.i586 (because
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice-core[==
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1] is not satisfied)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and the package is deselected. Needless to say that the libreoffice-core
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package I have installed in my system is exactly 3.3.3.1-0.1.mga1...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My questions are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - are the langpack packages the way to install dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, usually you need to install the corresponding extension
+</I>&gt;<i> (.oxt-file).
+</I>&gt;<i> You can find extensions here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/">http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/</A> Yes, this is an
+</I>&gt;<i> openoffice-link, but those extensions work for libreoffice as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> (If you experience any problems with the download (like a timeout),
+</I>&gt;<i> just hit reload as many times as possible. There are a few problems
+</I>&gt;<i> with the availability of the server...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - If yes, why then I get this error message?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - If not, which is then the right method for installing dictionaries?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not into libreoffice, but i think it uses myspell dictionaries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The libreoffice-fr package only contains french translations of libreoffice,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK. You want myspell-fr_FR and one of the myspell-en_ variants
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (en_GB, en_US, en_ZA ...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Florian, I'm not sure that libreoffice uses myspell. I thought it
+</I>&gt;<i> uses hunspell. But I can be wrong of course. But looking at my Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> Installation, I only have aspell and hunspell installed. And I have a
+</I>&gt;<i> German dictionary for LibreOffice. :)
+</I>
+That's right. At least the Mageia libreoffice package uses hunspell.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> About the installation problem i'm not sure, but maybe the forum
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is better suited than this list for troubleshooting?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks. I thought this mailling list was for this type of questions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry for the noise.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't be sorry. You can ask such questions here. Or in the forum.
+</I>&gt;<i> What ever you prefer.
+</I>
+The problem with this list is it is too easy to overlook questions, because of
+the large volume, compared with the forum format. But totally appropriate to
+ask questions here. Just sometimes you have to ask twice :)
+
+&gt;<i> Sigrid
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>Where to report on what works and what does not?
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+Donde se reportan lo qui funcuiona y lo que no funcuiona?
+--
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+No a la obsolecencia programada:
+<A HREF="http://dimensionargentina.blogspot.com/2011/01/todo-esta-disenado-para-romperse.html">http://dimensionargentina.blogspot.com/2011/01/todo-esta-disenado-para-romperse.html</A>
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+Linux User #495070
+<A HREF="http://miexperiencialinux.blogspot.com/">http://miexperiencialinux.blogspot.com/</A>
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+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
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+&gt;<i> Where to report on what works and what does not?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Donde se reportan lo qui funcuiona y lo que no funcuiona?
+</I>That depends, did you test the cauldron packages? Then here.
+If you're testing the updates_testing packages for Mageia 1, please
+in the bugreport: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2714">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2714</A>
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+<PRE>2011-09-14 11:51, Buchan Milne skrev:
+&gt;<i> On Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:32:32 nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011, Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A long time have I wondered why a Swedish man/woman would want to have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more languages on his/her iso to install just Swedish as language.
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the benefit to removing a language one particular user doesn't need?
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the cost (to other users who may need locales).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that languages are a specific problem, due to how initial installation of
+</I>&gt;<i> the distribution is different to package installation (it is more difficult to
+</I>&gt;<i> add languages post-install exactly the same as if you had selected them during
+</I>&gt;<i> install, compared to how easy it is to add more packages that you didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> select or weren't available during installation).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm therefor opening a discussion to perhaps solve this little proposal
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that I've got.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Look at the Live-iso's that we have to offer, they come with 16 languages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> each.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Lets think for a second that a user doesn't want to install a Live-system
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &amp; to use a large iso with unnessecary languages is out of question.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we should go back to *why* there are multiple live images with subsets
+</I>&gt;<i> of languages. It is *not* so the user has the convenience of not choosing
+</I>&gt;<i> their language, but because it is difficult to have a &quot;complete&quot; enough system
+</I>&gt;<i> catering to most use cases in under 700MB that supports all the languages. So
+</I>&gt;<i> for example, the choice is to drop LibreOffice, or only support a few
+</I>&gt;<i> languages per ISO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the software for a good default install would fit on
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How does he/she solve it to install Mageia?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My idea is that we transform the full-DVD iso to one-language only, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more iso's in the end.
+</I>&gt;<i> So, it is your opinion that&gt;90% of the users use more than ~ 60% of the
+</I>&gt;<i> software that will fit on a DVD ISO (without any other languages)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you should start off with your proposal of what these packages are that
+</I>&gt;<i> are so important to be included on 100 DVD ISOs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Like this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia-dvd-1-i586.iso in a language-dir under
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/">ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mageia/iso/1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The result is that you shrink the DVD much&amp; you can add other stuff that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't fit in the ordinary DVD's for some reason.......perhaps add more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> drivers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, but you will get an iso with unnessecary drivers. And unnessecary
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> applications. Maybe we can make ISOs with only one language, one driver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and one application ?
+</I>&gt;<i> It starts to sound like it should just be a custom live image made with
+</I>&gt;<i> draklive ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why stop there? What about variations for authentication libraries (e.g., some
+</I>&gt;<i> people may not want *any* LDAP in their system)? In this case, we may want to
+</I>&gt;<i> have versions of the packages built without LDAP support. Same for PAM (like
+</I>&gt;<i> Slackware). Same for databases. Maybe one without any php? One for python-
+</I>&gt;<i> haters (let's hope they don't have HP printers)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe a Gentoo-based system that compiles the whole distro with the selected
+</I>&gt;<i> features and genearates an ISO. But, then, why generate the ISO, updates would
+</I>&gt;<i> have to be customised anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems you have come up with a solution to a problem that either does not
+</I>&gt;<i> exist, or that you have not been able to communicate, with significant costs
+</I>&gt;<i> on *everyone* involved in the distribution, with no motivated benefits.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan
+</I>I have looked at when Windows 7 gets installed &amp; then I came to
+wonder........if you choose Swedish as language to install, why do you
+have to install a language-pack when you're already using the language?
+I've also check in the folder for languages in C:\ &amp; I see more
+languages than I've choosen to install or intend to use. They just use
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+want to access the Mageia forums (where it is more often with the
+international than the German). All other connections (Google,
+MandrivaUser.de, German TV sites, etc.) are responding as usual. Other
+Mageia sites are also responsive as usual, this only relates to the 2
+forum sites. Can anybody confirm this? If so, does anybody know the
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+</I>&gt;<i> I have looked at when Windows 7 gets installed &amp; then I came to
+</I>&gt;<i> wonder........if you choose Swedish as language to install, why do you have
+</I>&gt;<i> to install a language-pack when you're already using the language? I've also
+</I>&gt;<i> check in the folder for languages in C:\ &amp; I see more languages than I've
+</I>&gt;<i> choosen to install or intend to use. They just use alot of space on my
+</I>&gt;<i> drive. Is that fair on all OS'es?
+</I>
+No. In Linux you only install the language you chose at installation
+time. As for Windows I don't have a clue.
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+ <B>isadora</B>
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+Besides a hiccup at about ten this morning.
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+Don't have any issues myself.
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+&gt;<i> Metrics-report for forums.mageia.org shows no out-of-range numbers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides a hiccup at about ten this morning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't have any issues myself.
+</I>
+Just happened again: &quot;The connection has timed out. The server at
+forums.mageia.org is taking too long to respond.&quot;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Metrics-report for forums.mageia.org shows no out-of-range numbers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides a hiccup at about ten this morning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't have any issues myself.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hiccup was around eight this morning, sorry.
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+<PRE>has anyone managed to get GoogleEarth to work under Mageia 1 ?
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+If so, how ?
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+TIA,
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+Ron.
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> has anyone managed to get GoogleEarth to work under Mageia 1 ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, how ?
+</I>
+There's a lengthy thread in the Mageia forums with a solution:
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=76">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=76</A>
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+BTW: How come you have a German quotation (and a famous one!) as signature?
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+<PRE>I got a few times a message saying that the site was in maintenance and that I should try later. I was doing a search for a
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+El 14/09/11 17:43, Wolfgang Bornath escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> Beginning this morning I'm running into timeouts 3 out of 5 times I
+</I>&gt;<i> want to access the Mageia forums (where it is more often with the
+</I>&gt;<i> international than the German). All other connections (Google,
+</I>&gt;<i> MandrivaUser.de, German TV sites, etc.) are responding as usual. Other
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia sites are also responsive as usual, this only relates to the 2
+</I>&gt;<i> forum sites. Can anybody confirm this? If so, does anybody know the
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+find any printer over lan.
+when connect via usb say:
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+ERROR&gt; plu-ing file does not match its digital signature
+File may been corrupted or altered
+error code 2
+
+The printer you are trying to setup requiere a binary driver plugin
+and fail to install
+
+Printer hp1018
+mageia 1 x86_64
+
+--
+No a la obsolecencia programada:
+<A HREF="http://dimensionargentina.blogspot.com/2011/01/todo-esta-disenado-para-romperse.html">http://dimensionargentina.blogspot.com/2011/01/todo-esta-disenado-para-romperse.html</A>
+
+Linux User #495070
+<A HREF="http://miexperiencialinux.blogspot.com/">http://miexperiencialinux.blogspot.com/</A>
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+El que pregunta aprende, y el que contesta aprende a responder.
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+&gt;<i> Beginning this morning I'm running into timeouts 3 out of 5 times I
+</I>&gt;<i> want to access the Mageia forums (where it is more often with the
+</I>&gt;<i> international than the German). All other connections (Google,
+</I>&gt;<i> MandrivaUser.de, German TV sites, etc.) are responding as usual. Other
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia sites are also responsive as usual, this only relates to the 2
+</I>&gt;<i> forum sites. Can anybody confirm this? If so, does anybody know the
+</I>&gt;<i> reason?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>You can check if anything is wrong with xymon:
+<A HREF="http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/bb2.html">http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/bb2.html</A>
+If it doesn't display anything, everything is working.
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+When I'm doing ssh from my x86-64 Mageia Linux 1, with an Intel Graphics HD card host to
+any other host (including localhost)
+and running gtk+ 2.0 apps using the ssh -X connection, then I get
+an annoying black background for the icons. I tried it in a new user
+ and it's still there. However, in a new x86-64 VirtualBox VM where
+I installed Mageia 1 with all updates, everything is OK, and I
+don't see any backgrounds when sshing.
+
+I tried starting LXDE from startx on the new user and it's still there.
+
+Can anyone help?
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+ <I>Wed Sep 14 19:56:58 CEST 2011</I>
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+Wolfgang Bornath who wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; has anyone managed to get GoogleEarth to work under Mageia 1 ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If so, how ?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> There's a lengthy thread in the Mageia forums with a solution:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=76">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=76</A>
+</I>
+Thanks
+
+&gt;<i> BTW: How come you have a German quotation (and a famous one!) as signature?
+</I>
+Been collecting quotes fo over fifty years, got at present nearly 800 in a
+file, wrote a small gawk script cronjob that changes the tag in my sig file
+every hour.
+And I have tags in all the languages I speak, French, English, German,
+Spanish, Broad Scots, not to mention Latin, Greek, Japanese, Hebrew, Old
+English, Scottish Gaelic, etc.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
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+Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m who wrote:
+&gt;<i> I have looked at when Windows 7 gets installed &amp; then I came to
+</I>&gt;<i> wonder........if you choose Swedish as language to install, why do you
+</I>&gt;<i> have to install a language-pack when you're already using the language?
+</I>&gt;<i> I've also check in the folder for languages in C:\ &amp; I see more
+</I>&gt;<i> languages than I've choosen to install or intend to use. They just use
+</I>&gt;<i> alot of space on my drive. Is that fair on all OS'es?
+</I>
+One of my pet hates with the Mdv live install, last time I tried it, was the
+number of un-needed languages it installed.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
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+ -- Marcus Tullius Cicero
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20I%27d%20like%20to%20start%20to%20discuss%20the%20possibility%0A%20of%20having%20one%20language%20per%20iso%20when%20it%20comes%20to%20full%20DVD-versions%2C%0A%20similar%20to%20the%20Live-versions.&In-Reply-To=%3CCAHWeTyaG-M_B9zEVAm-LAPSLjd2NqOHDKuTw9k9QAf%2BS%3DYsGzQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Sep 14 20:34:58 CEST 2011</I>
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 14 Sep 2011 11:41 my mailbox was graced by a message from
+</I>&gt;<i> Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m who wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have looked at when Windows 7 gets installed &amp; then I came to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wonder........if you choose Swedish as language to install, why do you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have to install a language-pack when you're already using the language?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've also check in the folder for languages in C:\ &amp; I see more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> languages than I've choosen to install or intend to use. They just use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> alot of space on my drive. Is that fair on all OS'es?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One of my pet hates with the Mdv live install, last time I tried it, was the
+</I>&gt;<i> number of un-needed languages it installed.
+</I>
+Well, I think it's been already a few years that the live install
+begins with removing all not-needed software and translations. I even
+had an issue with that when I still had a SpeedTouch USB modem because
+its drivers were removed.
+
+Regards,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 20:34:58, R&#233;mi Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2011/9/14 Renaud (Ron) Olgiati &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wednesday 14 Sep 2011 11:41 my mailbox was graced by a message from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m who wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I have looked at when Windows 7 gets installed &amp; then I came to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; wonder........if you choose Swedish as language to install, why do you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; have to install a language-pack when you're already using the language?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I've also check in the folder for languages in C:\ &amp; I see more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; languages than I've choosen to install or intend to use. They just use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; alot of space on my drive. Is that fair on all OS'es?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; One of my pet hates with the Mdv live install, last time I tried it, was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the number of un-needed languages it installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I think it's been already a few years that the live install
+</I>&gt;<i> begins with removing all not-needed software and translations. I even
+</I>&gt;<i> had an issue with that when I still had a SpeedTouch USB modem because
+</I>&gt;<i> its drivers were removed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Almost : it doesn't &quot;begin&quot; with that, it ends with that :)
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Op 14-09-11 19:44, Florian Hubold schreef:
+&gt;<i> Am 14.09.2011 17:43, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Beginning this morning I'm running into timeouts 3 out of 5 times I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> want to access the Mageia forums (where it is more often with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> international than the German). All other connections (Google,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> MandrivaUser.de, German TV sites, etc.) are responding as usual. Other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia sites are also responsive as usual, this only relates to the 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forum sites. Can anybody confirm this? If so, does anybody know the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reason?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can check if anything is wrong with xymon:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/bb2.html">http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/bb2.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it doesn't display anything, everything is working.
+</I>Sinse over two days and five hours ago warning level reached.
+
+Is that for every Mageia-related site or only for the forums?
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 &#224; 21:20 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op 14-09-11 19:44, Florian Hubold schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Am 14.09.2011 17:43, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Beginning this morning I'm running into timeouts 3 out of 5 times I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; want to access the Mageia forums (where it is more often with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; international than the German). All other connections (Google,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; MandrivaUser.de, German TV sites, etc.) are responding as usual. Other
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia sites are also responsive as usual, this only relates to the 2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; forum sites. Can anybody confirm this? If so, does anybody know the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; reason?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can check if anything is wrong with xymon:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/bb2.html">http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/bb2.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If it doesn't display anything, everything is working.
+</I>&gt;<i> Sinse over two days and five hours ago warning level reached.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is that for every Mageia-related site or only for the forums?
+</I>
+Only the forum.
+The partition is not full, but it start to fill.
+
+And this should not cause trouble to connect, but maybe there is some
+dos or problem going on.
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>You may know it or not, many packages have no maintainer. This is due to the
+fact that we had no maintainer database when we boostrapped the distribution.
+
+Excluding perl packages (a lot of packages, all maintained by jq), we have :
+1118 packages with a maintainer
+4931 without a maintainer !
+
+Full list: <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</A>
+
+As a result, many bugs are sleeping in bugzilla, because the triage team
+doesn't know who to assign them to. If we want our distribution to succeed,
+this is a situation that can't continue.
+
+Misc has a proposal to solve this : the next first submitter to an unmaintained
+package will automatically get maintainership for it ! And after some time, if
+a package still has no maintainer, it is dropped from the distribution.
+
+However, before we come to this, I obtained a little delay by promising I will
+try to make YOU grab as much packages as possible !
+
+SO PLEASE SHOW YOU'RE WITH ME, and demonstrate to misc that we haven't tried
+hard enough to make the packagers step in and become maintainers :)
+
+The objective for the 7 following days is to reach 2000 packages with a
+maintainer (not counting perl packages, still). I will send you daily results.
+Deadline is the next packager meeting.
+
+GO !
+
+Packagers with submit rights can participate, but apprentices too, because we
+really need everybody's help here ! If your mentor agrees to take the
+maintainership instead of you until you get commit rights, tell him what
+packages you want to maintain.
+
+In the following days, all your keyboard should see is:
+
+mgarepo maintdb set packagename yourlogin
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde, going to grab some packages
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 &#224; 22:04 +0200, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 &#224; 21:20 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op 14-09-11 19:44, Florian Hubold schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Am 14.09.2011 17:43, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Beginning this morning I'm running into timeouts 3 out of 5 times I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; want to access the Mageia forums (where it is more often with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; international than the German). All other connections (Google,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; MandrivaUser.de, German TV sites, etc.) are responding as usual. Other
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Mageia sites are also responsive as usual, this only relates to the 2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; forum sites. Can anybody confirm this? If so, does anybody know the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; reason?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; You can check if anything is wrong with xymon:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/bb2.html">http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/bb2.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; If it doesn't display anything, everything is working.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sinse over two days and five hours ago warning level reached.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is that for every Mageia-related site or only for the forums?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Only the forum.
+</I>&gt;<i> The partition is not full, but it start to fill.
+</I>
+Ok, there is like 500 mo of connexion log on the 07/09 :
+# ls -lh /var/log/httpd/forums.mageia.or*
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 131M 2011-09-14
+22:09 /var/log/httpd/forums.mageia.org-access_log
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 297M 2011-09-01
+04:02 /var/log/httpd/forums.mageia.org-access_log.1
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 346M 2011-08-01
+04:01 /var/log/httpd/forums.mageia.org-access_log.2
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 508M 2011-07-01
+04:01 /var/log/httpd/forums.mageia.org-access_log.3
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24M 2011-06-01
+04:01 /var/log/httpd/forums.mageia.org-access_log.4
+
+It seems we keep monthly log, which is a little bit useless since
+everything come from the proxy. I will do some cleaning.
+
+&gt;<i> And this should not cause trouble to connect, but maybe there is some
+</I>&gt;<i> dos or problem going on.
+</I>
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<LI><A HREF="005293.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<LI><A HREF="005294.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
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+<LI><A HREF="005299.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
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+<LI><A HREF="005312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
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+<LI><A HREF="005313.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005315.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
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+<LI><A HREF="005301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
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+<I>Sigrid Carrera
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+<I>Shlomi Fish
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+
+<LI><A HREF="005281.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005283.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005287.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005288.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005289.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005291.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005311.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005322.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005282.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005285.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bug reports for the wireless tools
+</A><A NAME="5304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005295.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005296.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005319.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005320.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005309.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005302.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005284.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005317.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005324.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005325.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005331.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005286.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005290.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005326.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005327.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005330.html">[Mageia-discuss] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !
+</A><A NAME="5330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005328.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005307.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005316.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005297.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 14 23:06:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 14 23:10:35 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>14 September 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 14 02:51:15 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 14 23:06:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 50<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005281.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005282.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005283.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005284.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005286.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005285.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005287.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005288.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005289.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005290.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005291.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005293.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005294.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005295.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005296.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005297.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005299.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sigrid Carrera
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005302.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bug reports for the wireless tools
+</A><A NAME="5304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005307.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005309.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005311.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005313.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005316.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005317.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005315.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005319.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005320.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Black Background for Icons in gtk+ apps when ssh -X-ing from a Mageia 1 system.
+</A><A NAME="5323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005322.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005324.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005325.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005326.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005327.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005328.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005331.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005330.html">[Mageia-discuss] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !
+</A><A NAME="5330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 14 23:06:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 14 23:10:35 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>14 September 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 14 02:51:15 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 14 23:06:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 50<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Black Background for Icons in gtk+ apps when ssh -X-ing from a Mageia 1 system.
+</A><A NAME="5323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bug reports for the wireless tools
+</A><A NAME="5304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005317.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005324.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005297.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005284.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005286.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005290.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005325.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005327.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005302.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005281.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005282.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005283.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005285.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005287.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005288.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005289.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005291.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005293.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005294.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005295.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005299.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005307.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005311.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005313.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005326.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005316.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005315.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005319.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005322.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005328.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005331.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005330.html">[Mageia-discuss] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !
+</A><A NAME="5330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005296.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sigrid Carrera
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005320.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005309.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maxi
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 14 23:06:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+ <ul>
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 14 02:51:15 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 14 23:06:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 50<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01315961475- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005281.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01315961475-01315961752- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005282.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01315961475-01315961752-01315962121- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005283.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01315961475-01315961752-01315962121-01315963098- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005285.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315961475-01315961752-01315962121-01315963098-01315963690- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005288.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01315961475-01315961752-01315962507- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005284.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01315961475-01315961752-01315962507-01315963479- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005287.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01315961475-01315963093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005286.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01315961475-01315963093-01315963795- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005289.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01315961475-01315963093-01315963795-01315964466- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005290.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315961475-01315963093-01315963795-01315964466-01315965696- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005291.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315961475-01315963093-01315963795-01315964466-01315965696-01315979803- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005294.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01315961475-01315979500- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005293.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01315961475-01315987504- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005295.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01315961475-01315989152- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005297.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01315961475-01315989152-01315990051- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005299.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01315961475-01315989152-01315993895- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005302.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01315961475-01315989152-01315993895-01316000934- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005307.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315961475-01315989152-01315993895-01316014865- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005311.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315961475-01315989152-01315993895-01316014865-01316015105- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005313.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315961475-01315989152-01315993895-01316014865-01316023125- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005325.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315961475-01315989152-01315993895-01316014865-01316023125-01316025298- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005326.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315961475-01315989152-01315993895-01316014865-01316023125-01316025298-01316025569- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005327.html">[Mageia-discuss] I'd like to start to discuss the possibility of having one language per iso when it comes to full DVD-versions, similar to the Live-versions.
+</A><A NAME="5327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01315969005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01315969005-01316011102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005309.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maxi
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01315969005-01316011102-01316013451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01315969005-01316011102-01316013451-01316021567- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for hplip on Mageia 1.
+</A><A NAME="5321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maxi
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01315987656- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005296.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01315987656-01315989343- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01315987656-01315989343-01315990831- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01315987656-01315989343-01315990831-01315993801- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sigrid Carrera
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315987656-01315989343-01315990831-01315993801-01315997400- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315987656-01315989343-01315990831-01315993801-01316001773- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315987656-01315989343-01315990831-01315995477- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01315987656-01315989343-01315990831-01315995477-01316017041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005320.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spell checkers on Libre Office
+</A><A NAME="5320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01315996522- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Bug reports for the wireless tools
+</A><A NAME="5304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01316014991- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01316014991-01316015344- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01316014991-01316015344-01316015482- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005316.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01316014991-01316015344-01316015563- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005315.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01316014991-01316016810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005319.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01316014991-01316022241- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005322.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01316014991-01316022241-01316028052- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005328.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01316014991-01316022241-01316028052-01316030663- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01316014991-01316022241-01316028052-01316030663-01316031790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005331.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums hard to reach?
+</A><A NAME="5331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01316015486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005317.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01316015486-01316016563- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01316015486-01316016563-01316023018- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005324.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google-Earth
+</A><A NAME="5324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01316021999- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Black Background for Icons in gtk+ apps when ssh -X-ing from a Mageia 1 system.
+</A><A NAME="5323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01316034367- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005330.html">[Mageia-discuss] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS !
+</A><A NAME="5330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 14 23:06:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
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