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+ <B>TJ</B>
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+ <I>Mon Aug 29 02:47:28 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>As I complete my brand-new production install of Mageia 1, I'm overjoyed
+to see that Firefox has been updated to version 6. Too bad they didn't
+do the same with Thunderbird...
+
+Oh, well. At least the vendor's package is easy to install.
+
+TJ
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+ <B>Remco Rijnders</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 08:47:28PM -0400, TJ wrote in
+&lt;j3enj7$27u$<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">1 at dough.gmane.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>As I complete my brand-new production install of Mageia 1, I'm
+</I>&gt;<i>overjoyed to see that Firefox has been updated to version 6. Too bad
+</I>&gt;<i>they didn't do the same with Thunderbird...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Oh, well. At least the vendor's package is easy to install.
+</I>
+For firefox, the new release claims to offer some fixes for security
+issues while the release packaged has been EOL'ed by Mozilla, meaning no
+security fixes will be made to those older versions anymore.
+
+With Thunderbird, they have been less clear and the version released with
+Mageia is still supported, sort of. Because of this, and for as long as
+this holds, that release will be included with Mageia 1, though newer
+versions might well appear in the backports section.
+
+I think this is really more of an issue with the new Mozilla policy making
+things hard for Mageia and other distributors, than a Mageia centric
+policy making things hard for Mageia users.
+
+See also <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2088">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2088</A>
+
+Thanks and regards,
+
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+ <B>Kenneth Marcy</B>
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+<PRE>On Sunday, August 28, 2011 08:27:57 PM Remco Rijnders wrote:
+&gt;<i> For firefox, the new release claims to offer some fixes for security
+</I>&gt;<i> issues while the release packaged has been EOL'ed by Mozilla, meaning no
+</I>&gt;<i> security fixes will be made to those older versions anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With Thunderbird, they have been less clear and the version released with
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia is still supported, sort of. Because of this, and for as long as
+</I>&gt;<i> this holds, that release will be included with Mageia 1, though newer
+</I>&gt;<i> versions might well appear in the backports section.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this is really more of an issue with the new Mozilla policy making
+</I>&gt;<i> things hard for Mageia and other distributors, than a Mageia centric
+</I>&gt;<i> policy making things hard for Mageia users.
+</I>
+Mozilla policy is making choosing which version to stay with more difficult when
+its changes make third-party plug-ins either inoperable or needing maintenance
+the nature of which may not be immediately obvious to the uninformed user.
+Whether to upgrade and do without wanted plug-ins or not upgrade and keep
+wanted functionality operating is not always a clearly delineated choice set.
+
+Just to add to the excitement, when upgrading via the Mageia Control Center,
+if one thinks one is unchecking a download to upgrade Firefox, one may find
+that Mageia Control Center wants to remove the existing Firefox installation,
+rather than merely not downloading and upgrading the latest version. This
+level of confusion on the part of Mageia Control Center was very exciting for
+the few seconds it took to recognize what was happening, before canceling the
+entire update process. If it is the case that Mageia Control Center is not
+able to tell the difference between a request to not update an installed
+package, and a request to remove that package, then Mageia Control Center has
+a major bug that needs attention sooner rather than later.
+
+&gt;<i> See also <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2088">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2088</A>
+</I>
+I just tried to look at this bug to see what it is all about, but even though
+I am logged into Mageia Bugzilla, it will not return the bug report 2008 to
+me. The little &quot;wait&quot; icon just goes around and around in the window tab.
+
+
+Ken
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