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What, I wonder, is the rationale for +</I>><i> >> limiting the chance of collecting more data from our user base? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Are you volunteer to collect and summarize feedback from the existing +</I>><i> > tools ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > If the answer is "no", then we will not do anything with more feedback, +</I>><i> > except doing false hope to people. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > If the answer is "yes", show us the work. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sure, what would you like me to do. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> FYI ... I was an active contributor to the Mageia marketing team but +</I>><i> have had 3 spinal surgeries since last April where I have had to relearn +</I>><i> how to walk each time. I had my last one April 1st and am still in +</I>><i> recovery which has cut up my volunteer time a bit. I am also holding the +</I>><i> mageia.ca domain which is pointing to the mageia.org site. +</I> +Ouch, I hope you are going to get well ( if this is not already the case +). + +><i> If you are saying that this will help convince you that bridging these +</I>><i> together are a good idea, then no problem. +</I> +Well, I would be indeed more convinced that we need more feedback once +we do something useful with the feedback we have. + +Having feedback is just one part of the whole schema, and IMHO, first we +complete everything ( ie, what to do with feedback, ), then we grow. + +><i> Let me know what you need done. I am hoping to re-join the Mageia +</I>><i> marketing team but am lurking for the moment. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> NB I am also active on the LibreOffice marketing team. +</I> +If you have time ( cause of course I can understand people do not have +time ), I guess the first thing would be to define a process and some +document that can summarize the feedback. + +For example, do we gather feedback continuously or organize some +campaign ? + +What form would take such gathering, ie, actively asking to people, +reading and noting stuff on a list ? when do "reports" ? + +Do we list points that people want to address, do we organize some chat +with member of others team to check what can be done, etc ? + +Once there is a process, then we can follow it, and then we can start to +expand, and tweak it. But I am not in marketing, and I have personally +enough feedback to keep me busy for the next few months, so maybe the +first question would be "who will use such feedback" + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004633.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4622">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4622">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4622">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4622">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004623.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004623.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6a7f2eb0c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004623.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Themes%20%26%20Icons&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEEAAED.2040706%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004633.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004624.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons</H1> + <B>Kristoffer Grundström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Themes%20%26%20Icons&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEEAAED.2040706%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 00:49:17 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004633.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? 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Gnome +people are aware, and so if you can help, do not hesitate. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004623.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4624">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4624">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4624">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4624">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004625.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004625.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..05bbaa7fe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004625.html @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3C1307495588.27877.224.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004624.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004626.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3C1307495588.27877.224.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 03:13:08 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4625">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4625">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4625">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4625">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 07 juin 2011 à 15:08 -0400, Hoyt Duff a écrit : +><i> On 6/7/11, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > There is lots of firmware that cannot even be distributed. Of course, we +</I>><i> > could do like Canonical and just pretend laws do not exist : +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20090423">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20090423</A> , s this clearly annoy +</I>><i> > users... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Here's how I understand the argument. There are three scenarios: +</I>><i> 1-Software is licensed to allow distribution. +</I>><i> 2-Software license specifically prohibits distribution. +</I>><i> 3-Software license is undetermined. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So this means that: +</I>><i> 1-OK. Distribute if possible per the terms of the license. +</I>><i> 2-Software should not be distributed. Interested parties in the +</I>><i> community may work towards a license change if they desire. +</I>><i> 3-It's the responsibility of the copyright holder to enforce their +</I>><i> rights. Group A says that all such software should not be distributed +</I>><i> until license status can be determined. Group B says to distribute +</I>><i> software until copyright holder complains; no complaint equals implied +</I>><i> permission to distribute. Again, interested parties in the community +</I>><i> may work towards a license change if they desire. +</I> +Group A is right. +If there is no explicit rights granted, then we cannot redistribute it. + +USAs consider that software are literacy work +( <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_copyright">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_copyright</A> ). And that's +something that do not need any specific declaration to be protected. +Something without explicit rights is protected, see +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphan_works">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphan_works</A> + +France treat software in a similar way ( ie, if there is no explicit +right to distribute a copy then you cannot, at least not in the way that +would interest us as a distribution ), and I think most countries does, +per application of the Berne convention ( revised in 1988 ) : +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works</A> +( see article 5, that extend protection from one country to all others +). + +There is complex case in copyright law, but this one is quite simple. + +><i> The rest of the universe of Linux users are unaware of such issues or +</I>><i> don't care (not everyone can be RMS). They want Mageia to "just work". +</I>><i> They will blame Mageia, not the hardware manufacturer, not the +</I>><i> software copyright holder, not Linus Torvalds, not Richard Stallman +</I>><i> nor Ubuntu/Canonical/Shuttleworth. +</I> +They can blame Mageia as much as they want, that will not change the +international copyright treaties. + + +><i> The question is how will Mageia balance the need for "just works" with +</I>><i> the desire to honor copyrights and engage only in legal software +</I>><i> distribution? This is made more complex because those rights and +</I>><i> copyright laws are not equal everywhere in the world. +</I> +So if the question is : +"will mageia do something clearly illegal in France to please users", I +think that I can safely answer "no". + +But if you are not satisfied with the answer and my reasoning, feel free +to ask to the council or the board for a precision. Or ask to a lawyer. + +Even Canonical did clean the firmware package, as you can see if you +follow the url given by the blog post I mentioned. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4625">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4625">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4625">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4625">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004626.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004626.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..228f1f8da --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004626.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikz71Hf8cNjjSk-wW%2BwuXF9oEsAMg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004625.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004629.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikz71Hf8cNjjSk-wW%2BwuXF9oEsAMg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 05:14:13 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004629.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4626">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4626">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4626">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4626">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 6/7/11, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> They can blame Mageia as much as they want, that will not change the +</I>><i> international copyright treaties. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> The question is how will Mageia balance the need for "just works" with +</I>>><i> the desire to honor copyrights and engage only in legal software +</I>>><i> distribution? This is made more complex because those rights and +</I>>><i> copyright laws are not equal everywhere in the world. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So if the question is : +</I>><i> "will mageia do something clearly illegal in France to please users", I +</I>><i> think that I can safely answer "no". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But if you are not satisfied with the answer and my reasoning, feel free +</I>><i> to ask to the council or the board for a precision. Or ask to a lawyer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Even Canonical did clean the firmware package, as you can see if you +</I>><i> follow the url given by the blog post I mentioned. +</I>><i> +</I> + +You miss my point. + +We are in agreement as to the legality and what should be done with +the software. I'm not asking Mageia to do anything illegal. + +You imply that you don't care if customers wrongly blame Mageia. That +seems to be a counterproductive attitude about customer service and +the success of Mageia. 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I think it is better to spend my time on +</I>><i> > > software where the owners collaborate rather than on software where the +</I>><i> > > owners don't. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe we should think less of what the prog owners do, and more on whether +</I>><i> or not the users want/need the prog ? +</I>><i> +</I>+1 +><i> Cheers, +</I>Tony. +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004631.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4627">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4627">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4627">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4627">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004628.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004628.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..720708ae7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004628.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C9v.oY1%40r78.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004640.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004638.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C9v.oY1%40r78.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 07:40:58 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004638.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4628">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4628">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4628">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4628">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 03:57:24PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: +><i>Le mardi 07 juin 2011 à 09:00 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> You are not splitting up the support community if you bridge the forums +</I>>><i> and "user" mailist. In fact, you are enhancing it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>Then I propose that first the system is working, and then we see how it +</I>><i>work. The code for forum is on <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git,">git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git,</A> +</I>><i>anybody can clone and send patches. +</I> +Well... I'll bite... but: + +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remmy at winter</A>:~/projects/mageia$ git clone +<A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git">git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git</A> +Cloning into forums... +git.mageia.org[0: 2a02:2178:2:7::3]: errno=Connection refused +fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly + +And from a system without IPv6: + +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remmy at sammy</A>:~/projects$ git clone <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git">git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git</A> +Cloning into forums... +fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly + +Any ideas? + +Cheers, + +Remmy +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 836 bytes +Desc: Digital signature +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110608/c7376eb8/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004638.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4628">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4628">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4628">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4628">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004629.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004629.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..417517116 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004629.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3D_j%3DRMAOkKr%3D_UadG0neHj%3DvVJfg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004626.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004631.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3D_j%3DRMAOkKr%3D_UadG0neHj%3DvVJfg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 10:13:20 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004631.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4629">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4629">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4629">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4629">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/8 Hoyt Duff <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On 6/7/11, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> They can blame Mageia as much as they want, that will not change the +</I>>><i> international copyright treaties. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> The question is how will Mageia balance the need for "just works" with +</I>>>><i> the desire to honor copyrights and engage only in legal software +</I>>>><i> distribution? This is made more complex because those rights and +</I>>>><i> copyright laws are not equal everywhere in the world. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So if the question is : +</I>>><i> "will mageia do something clearly illegal in France to please users", I +</I>>><i> think that I can safely answer "no". +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> But if you are not satisfied with the answer and my reasoning, feel free +</I>>><i> to ask to the council or the board for a precision. Or ask to a lawyer. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Even Canonical did clean the firmware package, as you can see if you +</I>>><i> follow the url given by the blog post I mentioned. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You miss my point. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We are in agreement as to the legality and what should be done with +</I>><i> the software. I'm not asking Mageia to do anything illegal. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You imply that you don't care if customers wrongly blame Mageia. That +</I>><i> seems to be a counterproductive attitude about customer service and +</I>><i> the success of Mageia. Certainly that can't be true? +</I> +Well, if I understand these 2 paragraphs you agree to the legal stuff +and you do not ask Mageia to do anything illegal, at the same time you +say that this is a counterproductive attitude. +Obviously I'm missing your point as well. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004631.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4629">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4629">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4629">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4629">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004630.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004630.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9cdf893cc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004630.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikX4F6kjsTZfacrWHp_OwVb_hLiHg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004627.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004636.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikX4F6kjsTZfacrWHp_OwVb_hLiHg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 10:21:00 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4630">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4630">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4630">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4630">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/8 Anthony Irven Scott <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">anthonyscott at comcen.com.au</A>>: +><i> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:38:11 PM Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: +</I>>><i> On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 09:11 my mailbox was graced by a message from Marc +</I>>><i> Paré +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> who wrote: +</I>>><i> > > Personally, I will not. I think it is better to spend my time on +</I>>><i> > > software where the owners collaborate rather than on software where the +</I>>><i> > > owners don't. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Maybe we should think less of what the prog owners do, and more on whether +</I>>><i> or not the users want/need the prog ? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +1 +</I> +Good, tell that to the owners. + +Sometimes I think that some users are like little kids. They see it, +they want it, and they don't care about anything else. +What do you say to a kid asking for that yellow bike which belongs to +another kid? + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4630">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4630">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4630">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4630">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004631.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004631.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..391dbd669 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004631.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikg7E4Z92WyQh41g_Ya9Qkgx_nxuA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004629.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004627.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikg7E4Z92WyQh41g_Ya9Qkgx_nxuA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 10:48:50 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004629.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4631">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4631">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4631">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4631">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 05:14, Hoyt Duff <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On 6/7/11, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We are in agreement as to the legality and what should be done with +</I>><i> the software. I'm not asking Mageia to do anything illegal. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You imply that you don't care if customers wrongly blame Mageia. That +</I>><i> seems to be a counterproductive attitude about customer service and +</I>><i> the success of Mageia. Certainly that can't be true? +</I> +One can't blame the fisherman for not getting a whale when such +fishing is forbidden. So your option is more along the line of +"educate those people about the issue and provide them with an +alternative". + +By the way, be careful with words; Mageia is not about providing any +type of "customer service" - that is left to peripheral initiatives. + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004629.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4631">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4631">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4631">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4631">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004632.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004632.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..85e91df32 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004632.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3D%3DbXYkFRi9SfyD2E7%3DNL9m_vgpUA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004638.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004637.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3D%3DbXYkFRi9SfyD2E7%3DNL9m_vgpUA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 10:56:45 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004638.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4632">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4632">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4632">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4632">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 21:39, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Hmm, no need to patch anything. Google search works in mandrivauser.de +</I>><i> without any extra configuration or module. +</I> +Sure. I meant, patching to improve it a bit more. + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004638.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4632">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4632">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4632">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4632">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004633.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004633.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d0c41e564 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004633.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cisnfth%247r6%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004622.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004623.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cisnfth%247r6%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 11:37:52 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004622.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004623.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4633">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4633">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4633">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4633">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2011-06-07 18:07, Michael Scherer a écrit : + +><i> +</I>><i> If you have time ( cause of course I can understand people do not have +</I>><i> time ), I guess the first thing would be to define a process and some +</I>><i> document that can summarize the feedback. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For example, do we gather feedback continuously or organize some +</I>><i> campaign ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What form would take such gathering, ie, actively asking to people, +</I>><i> reading and noting stuff on a list ? when do "reports" ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do we list points that people want to address, do we organize some chat +</I>><i> with member of others team to check what can be done, etc ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Once there is a process, then we can follow it, and then we can start to +</I>><i> expand, and tweak it. But I am not in marketing, and I have personally +</I>><i> enough feedback to keep me busy for the next few months, so maybe the +</I>><i> first question would be "who will use such feedback" +</I>><i> +</I> +I'll throw something up on the wiki in the next little while once I +reacquaint myself with some of the issues that have been brought up. + +Cheers + +Marc + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004622.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004623.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4633">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4633">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4633">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4633">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004634.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004634.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..334b81817 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004634.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20110608095321.GQ21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004643.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004635.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20110608095321.GQ21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 11:53:21 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004635.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4634">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4634">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4634">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4634">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 08 Jun 2011, Remco Rijnders wrote: + +><i> On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 03:57:24PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: +</I>>><i> Le mardi 07 juin 2011 à 09:00 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> You are not splitting up the support community if you bridge the forums +</I>>>><i> and "user" mailist. In fact, you are enhancing it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Then I propose that first the system is working, and then we see how it +</I>>><i> work. The code for forum is on <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git,">git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git,</A> +</I>>><i> anybody can clone and send patches. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well... I'll bite... but: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remmy at winter</A>:~/projects/mageia$ git clone +</I>><i> <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git">git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git</A> +</I>><i> Cloning into forums... +</I>><i> git.mageia.org[0: 2a02:2178:2:7::3]: errno=Connection refused +</I>><i> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And from a system without IPv6: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remmy at sammy</A>:~/projects$ git clone <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git">git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git</A> +</I>><i> Cloning into forums... +</I>><i> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Any ideas? +</I> +Actually the correct URL is <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/forum">git://git.mageia.org/forum</A> + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004635.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4634">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4634">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4634">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4634">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004635.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004635.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cb83a479a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004635.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20No%20USB%20with%20VirtualBox%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201106082022.36909.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004634.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004644.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox?</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20No%20USB%20with%20VirtualBox%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201106082022.36909.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox?">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 12:22:36 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004634.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004644.html">[Mageia-discuss] HCL +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4635">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4635">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4635">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4635">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:30:33 PM <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +><i> aurice Batey skrev 6.6.2011 14:19: +</I>><i> > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:41:09 +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >> (The $1000 question, what is any distro shipping only python 2.7 gonna +</I>><i> >> do about this mismatch? Nothing actually, since they have no control +</I>><i> >> on packages built by upstream). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So the answer to my question ("What is Mageia going to do about this +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > mismatch?") is: "Nothing"? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, +</I>><i> use mageia provided packages, if they dont work, file a bug. +</I> +Maurice started this one here, but a post by me triggered that. + +Firstly, I think that VB should accept Python 2.6 and above. They aren't the +only ones to cause problems that way. they may be fussy about what they have +tested. + +Secondly, what is wrong with installing two versions of Python? Ubuntu have 3 +versions (Python 3 as well.) Considering that VirtualBox was not a priority +for Mageia 1, I thought that Python 2.6 might come later. I don't know how +many people have made Mageia their principal distro. I had to reinstall +Mandriva 2010.2 long after the CD was released, and Mageia Beta 2 was +available at about the right time. It seemed to be Mandriva 2010.3. It is +O.K. for most of my needs, and I know that the trimmings, the eye candy, etc. +will come later. I have no desire to go back to Mandriva at the moment. I +can wait. It is like somebody who wanted to know where his whizz-bang graphic +effects were. wobo replied that Mga 1 was not about those. What has been +achieved is great. + +Doug Laidlaw. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004634.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004644.html">[Mageia-discuss] HCL +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4635">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4635">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4635">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4635">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004636.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004636.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cacd5773f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004636.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3C201106080728.36586.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004630.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004640.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3C201106080728.36586.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 13:28:36 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4636">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4636">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4636">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4636">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011 04:21 my mailbox was graced by a message from +Wolfgang Bornath who wrote: + +><i> >> Maybe we should think less of what the prog owners do, and more on +</I>><i> >> whether or not the users want/need the prog ? +</I> +><i> > +1 +</I> +><i> Good, tell that to the owners. +</I>><i> Sometimes I think that some users are like little kids. They see it, +</I>><i> they want it, and they don't care about anything else. +</I>><i> What do you say to a kid asking for that yellow bike which belongs to +</I>><i> another kid? +</I> +Slightly different: what do you tell the kid who has been using his own yellow +bike for years, and suddenly cannot use it ? + +For many years now, when people asked my advice on which OS to use, my reply +was "what software do you need to use, and what OS does it run under ?"; then +told them to use that OS, whatever it was (Yes, even MS Windows ;-3) and I do +the same for my personal use: if a distro does not run the prog I need, that I +am used to, etc. I will not use that distro. + +I have been using the Qcad drafting prog on a regular basis for many years +now; last week I installed Mageia1, had no major problem, then found there was +no Qcad and that was that, I went back to Mandriva. + +I do not see the point of learning the complexities and vagaries of a new +drafting prog when the one I know is available on another distro that runs +without problem (for now), just for the sake of "being a Mageia user". + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + Gogoniant i'r Tad ac i'r Mab ac i'r Ysbryd Glan + megis yr oedd yn y dechrau y mae'r awr hon + ac y bydd yn wastad yn oes oesoedd. Amen. + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4636">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4636">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4636">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4636">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004637.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004637.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fd8108b3c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004637.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikmSaNai2Az9bdGUiTO0spA8bNQBg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004632.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004639.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikmSaNai2Az9bdGUiTO0spA8bNQBg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 13:52:33 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004639.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4637">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4637">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4637">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4637">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/8 Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 21:39, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Hmm, no need to patch anything. Google search works in mandrivauser.de +</I>>><i> without any extra configuration or module. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sure. I meant, patching to improve it a bit more. +</I> +Ok, to clarify this and avoid misunderstandings: + +Google search on forums.mageia.org is working fine (just tested it). +The search results are listed with the matching URLs, you click on the +search result and you see the matching thread. + +Before integrating a search mask for "Google search in the forum" you +want to "beauty-fy the output", do I understand that correctly? +Then my question is: why is there a need to "pimp" it? + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004639.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4637">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4637">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4637">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4637">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004638.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004638.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7feba8186 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004638.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307534012.26948.2.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004628.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004632.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307534012.26948.2.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 13:53:31 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004628.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4638">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4638">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4638">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4638">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 08 juin 2011 à 07:40 +0200, Remco Rijnders a écrit : +><i> On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 03:57:24PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: +</I>><i> >Le mardi 07 juin 2011 à 09:00 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> You are not splitting up the support community if you bridge the forums +</I>><i> >> and "user" mailist. In fact, you are enhancing it. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >Then I propose that first the system is working, and then we see how it +</I>><i> >work. The code for forum is on <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git,">git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git,</A> +</I>><i> >anybody can clone and send patches. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well... I'll bite... but: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remmy at winter</A>:~/projects/mageia$ git clone +</I>><i> <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git">git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git</A> +</I>><i> Cloning into forums... +</I>><i> git.mageia.org[0: 2a02:2178:2:7::3]: errno=Connection refused +</I>><i> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly +</I> +damned, just on ipv6 test day :( + +( the git setup is still unfinished so some rough edge are to be +expected ). + +I will fix this afternoon, thanks for the report +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004628.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4638">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4638">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4638">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4638">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004639.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004639.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..48eb175bb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004639.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikGo9JjfM4gi9fjUOHviZgD_mD2BA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004637.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004641.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikGo9JjfM4gi9fjUOHviZgD_mD2BA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 14:03:55 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004641.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4639">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4639">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4639">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4639">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 13:52, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Before integrating a search mask for "Google search in the forum" you +</I>><i> want to "beauty-fy the output", do I understand that correctly? +</I>><i> Then my question is: why is there a need to "pimp" it? +</I> +That's not a deep need, neither pimp. That's a very small suggestion +for improvement. + +For instance, all answers from Google are titled: + * either as "Mageia forum • View forum • {forum name}" which is not +necessary as people most likely search for a specific subject, rather +than a sub-forum - so we may as well remove these from the index. + * either as "Mageia forum • View topic • {topic name}" which is way +less easier to read/catch than "{topic name} - Mageia forum" where the +actual interesting eye-catch is at the beginning of the line. + +Notwithstanding with other ranking issues that may be into account, +but I would let this to people more index-improvement-best-practice +expert than me. + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004641.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4639">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4639">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4639">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4639">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004640.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004640.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f2bb41daa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004640.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3Dkjm5-E27D62q-DDqEtZbCJde1%3Dw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004636.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004628.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3Dkjm5-E27D62q-DDqEtZbCJde1%3Dw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 14:04:17 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004628.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4640">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4640">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4640">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4640">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/8 Renaud (Ron) Olgiati <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>>: +><i> On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011 04:21 my mailbox was graced by a message from +</I>><i> Wolfgang Bornath who wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> >> Maybe we should think less of what the prog owners do, and more on +</I>>><i> >> whether or not the users want/need the prog ? +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > +1 +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Good, tell that to the owners. +</I>>><i> Sometimes I think that some users are like little kids. They see it, +</I>>><i> they want it, and they don't care about anything else. +</I>>><i> What do you say to a kid asking for that yellow bike which belongs to +</I>>><i> another kid? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For many years now, when people asked my advice on which OS to use, my reply +</I>><i> was "what software do you need to use, and what OS does it run under ?"; then +</I>><i> told them to use that OS, whatever it was (Yes, even MS Windows  ;-3) and I do +</I>><i> the same for my personal use: if a distro does not run the prog I need, that I +</I>><i> am used to, etc. I will not use that distro. +</I> +Right, same as I do. I never had a problem running Windows for a +special app which was not available in Linux. And I never had a +problem with using a Gnome app in a KDE environment if the Gnome app +better suited my needs. + +><i> I do not see the point of learning the complexities and vagaries of a new +</I>><i> drafting prog when the one I know is available on another distro that runs +</I>><i> without problem (for now), just for the sake of "being a Mageia user". +</I> +Yes, quite right, same as I do. We totally agree on this. + +Now, how is this related to the issue at hand? + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004628.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4640">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4640">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4640">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4640">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004641.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004641.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d9897df33 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004641.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikvVOMqARPeEBAf1Fw6shn9XwtT7Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004639.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004642.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikvVOMqARPeEBAf1Fw6shn9XwtT7Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 14:18:40 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004639.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004642.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4641">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4641">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4641">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4641">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/8 Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 13:52, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Before integrating a search mask for "Google search in the forum" you +</I>>><i> want to "beauty-fy the output", do I understand that correctly? +</I>>><i> Then my question is: why is there a need to "pimp" it? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's not a deep need, neither pimp. That's a very small suggestion +</I>><i> for improvement. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For instance, all answers from Google are titled: +</I>><i>  * either as "Mageia forum • View forum • {forum name}" which is not +</I>><i> necessary as people most likely search for a specific subject, rather +</I>><i> than a sub-forum - so we may as well remove these from the index. +</I> +Yes, I see, that's odd! +Display of search results of Google search for "DVB-T" in the +mandrivauser.de forum look like: + + [Gelöst] DVB-T USB-Stick in 2008.1 einbinden • MandrivaUser.de + 15 Beiträge - 5 Autoren - Letzter Eintrag: 21. März 2009 + Jetzt liegt bei mir ein DVB-T USB-Stick von Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T +rum, und läßt sich nicht in Betrieb nehmen.:@ ... + www.mandrivauser.de › ... › Grafik- / TV-Karten - Im Cache + + DVB-T: Kaffeine versus Me-Tv • MandrivaUser.de + 3 Beiträge - 2 Autoren - Letzter Eintrag: 26. Dez. 2009 + Nachdem ich schon seit mindestens 2008.1 mit DVB-T und meinem +Nova-T USB-Stick kämpfe - auf meinem KDE-Rechner klappt z. ... + www.mandrivauser.de › ... › Softwarefragen › Multimedia - Im Cache + + DVB-T Stick als scanner "erkannt" • MandrivaUser.de + 8 Beiträge - 4 Autoren - Letzter Eintrag: 3. Okt. 2010 + Wie kann ich jetzt dem System glaubhaft versichern das es sich +hier sehr wohl um einen DVB-T-Stick handelt und kein Scanner in +sichtweite ... + www.mandrivauser.de › ... › Grafik- / TV-Karten - Im Cache + +As you can see, the title shows the thread subject, the bottom line +shows the section of the forum. + +As far as I remember I did not change anything in the phpbb3 +configuration to achieve this display. +It was like this out-of-the-box. I'll check on mandrivauser.de server/forum. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004639.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004642.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4641">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4641">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4641">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4641">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004642.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004642.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3a1dc9654 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004642.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTinEwcSFo_XN_8gvfJPivrVMaxxzYg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004641.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004643.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTinEwcSFo_XN_8gvfJPivrVMaxxzYg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 14:22:18 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004641.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4642">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4642">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4642">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4642">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 14:18, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Yes, I see, that's odd! +</I>><i> Display of search results of Google search for "DVB-T" in the +</I>><i> mandrivauser.de forum look like: +</I>><i> +</I>><i>    [Gelöst] DVB-T USB-Stick in 2008.1 einbinden • MandrivaUser.de +</I>><i>    15 Beiträge - 5 Autoren - Letzter Eintrag: 21. März 2009 +</I>><i>    Jetzt liegt bei mir ein DVB-T USB-Stick von Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T +</I>><i> rum, und läßt sich nicht in Betrieb nehmen.:@ ... +</I>><i>    www.mandrivauser.de › ... › Grafik- / TV-Karten - Im Cache +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> As you can see, the title shows the thread subject, the bottom line +</I>><i> shows the section of the forum. +</I> +Well, yes, that is cool, indeed! :-) + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004641.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4642">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4642">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4642">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4642">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004643.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004643.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ba6b6fe37 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004643.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTik4J1P4xtU2dm48EFJPBxJ0RcTpVw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004642.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004634.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTik4J1P4xtU2dm48EFJPBxJ0RcTpVw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 14:44:46 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004642.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004634.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4643">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4643">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4643">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4643">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/8 Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 14:18, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Yes, I see, that's odd! +</I>>><i> Display of search results of Google search for "DVB-T" in the +</I>>><i> mandrivauser.de forum look like: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i>    [Gelöst] DVB-T USB-Stick in 2008.1 einbinden • MandrivaUser.de +</I>>><i>    15 Beiträge - 5 Autoren - Letzter Eintrag: 21. März 2009 +</I>>><i>    Jetzt liegt bei mir ein DVB-T USB-Stick von Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T +</I>>><i> rum, und läßt sich nicht in Betrieb nehmen.:@ ... +</I>>><i>    www.mandrivauser.de › ... › Grafik- / TV-Karten - Im Cache +</I>>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> As you can see, the title shows the thread subject, the bottom line +</I>>><i> shows the section of the forum. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, yes, that is cool, indeed! :-) +</I> +Yes, we like it :) Now the 64K USB question: why does this not work +with the Mageia forum? It's based on the same software as +mandrivauser.de. +As I said, I will check for possible reasons on the mandrivauser.de +server later today. + +Of course, though I can see the git branch of the Mageia forum +software I do not know what kind of external setup sysadmins +implemented (as example: remember the fixed language setting which +wasted my time when trying in vain to set the German forum's default +language). + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004642.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004634.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4643">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4643">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4643">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4643">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004644.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004644.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a45688b9d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004644.html @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] HCL + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20HCL&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEFA671.3050502%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004635.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004645.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] HCL</H1> + <B>Kristoffer Grundström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20HCL&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEFA671.3050502%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] HCL">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 18:42:25 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004635.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox? 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+</I> +What HCL? Where? (we don't have such a specific list for Mageia, this far). + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004644.html">[Mageia-discuss] HCL +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004646.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4645">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4645">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4645">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4645">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004646.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004646.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ebb4b0bb1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004646.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20copyright%20of%20wiki%20content&In-Reply-To=%3C201106082004.p58K4fXg091975%40smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004645.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004647.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content</H1> + <B>Dick Gevers</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20copyright%20of%20wiki%20content&In-Reply-To=%3C201106082004.p58K4fXg091975%40smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content">dvgevers at xs4all.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 22:04:38 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004645.html">[Mageia-discuss] HCL +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004647.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4646">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4646">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4646">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4646">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Can someone tell me in a few words what rights I have to the content (a few +chapters only) of wiki material I wrote myself for Mandriva Wiki and/or +it's predecessors kept up to date by me for several years - some of them +dating from around 2003 ? + +If every word in a chapter was written by me and I can prove it, may I +publish the content elsewhere or do they remain Mandriva property? + +Thanks and BFN, +=Dick Gevers= +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004645.html">[Mageia-discuss] HCL +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004647.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4646">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4646">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4646">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4646">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004647.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004647.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c58d100b9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004647.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20copyright%20of%20wiki%20content&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEFD937.3000105%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004646.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004648.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content</H1> + <B>Olav Dahlum</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20copyright%20of%20wiki%20content&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEFD937.3000105%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content">odahlum at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 22:19:03 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004646.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004648.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4647">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4647">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4647">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4647">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 08/06/11 22:04, Dick Gevers wrote: +><i> Can someone tell me in a few words what rights I have to the content (a few +</I>><i> chapters only) of wiki material I wrote myself for Mandriva Wiki and/or +</I>><i> it's predecessors kept up to date by me for several years - some of them +</I>><i> dating from around 2003 ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If every word in a chapter was written by me and I can prove it, may I +</I>><i> publish the content elsewhere or do they remain Mandriva property? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks and BFN, +</I>><i> =Dick Gevers= +</I> +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva:Copyrights">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva:Copyrights</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004646.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004648.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4647">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4647">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4647">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4647">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004648.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004648.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..431ea7d23 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004648.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20copyright%20of%20wiki%20content&In-Reply-To=%3C20110608202002.GR21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004647.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004649.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20copyright%20of%20wiki%20content&In-Reply-To=%3C20110608202002.GR21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 22:20:02 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004647.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004649.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4648">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4648">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4648">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4648">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 08 Jun 2011, Dick Gevers wrote: + +><i> Can someone tell me in a few words what rights I have to the content (a few +</I>><i> chapters only) of wiki material I wrote myself for Mandriva Wiki and/or +</I>><i> it's predecessors kept up to date by me for several years - some of them +</I>><i> dating from around 2003 ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If every word in a chapter was written by me and I can prove it, may I +</I>><i> publish the content elsewhere or do they remain Mandriva property? +</I> +You can do what you want if you are the author. + +But everything published on mandriva wiki is CC-BY-SA : +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva:Copyrights">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva:Copyrights</A> +so it can be published in other places keeping the same license. + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004647.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004649.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4648">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4648">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4648">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4648">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004649.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004649.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7bdea1078 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/004649.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20copyright%20of%20wiki%20content&In-Reply-To=%3C201106082105.p58L5MZY046213%40smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004648.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content</H1> + <B>Dick Gevers</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20copyright%20of%20wiki%20content&In-Reply-To=%3C201106082105.p58L5MZY046213%40smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content">dvgevers at xs4all.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jun 8 23:05:22 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004648.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4649">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4649">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4649">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4649">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:20:02 +0200, nicolas vigier wrote about Re: +[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content: + +><i>On Wed, 08 Jun 2011, Dick Gevers wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Can someone tell me in a few words what rights I have to the content (a +</I>>><i> few chapters only) of wiki material I wrote myself for Mandriva Wiki +</I>>><i> and/or it's predecessors kept up to date by me for several years - some +</I>>><i> of them dating from around 2003 ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If every word in a chapter was written by me and I can prove it, may I +</I>>><i> publish the content elsewhere or do they remain Mandriva property? +</I>><i> +</I>><i>You can do what you want if you are the author. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>But everything published on mandriva wiki is CC-BY-SA : +</I>><i><A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva:Copyrights">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva:Copyrights</A> +</I>><i>so it can be published in other places keeping the same license. +</I> +Okay! + +So do I understand correctly that if I publish the same or the roughly same +content on my own URL or let's say Mageia's wiki I must include the clause: + +quote +This was previously Mandriva's wiki content available under Creative +Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5. +You can find more information about Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike +2.5 in this web page: <A HREF="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/</A> +unquote + +or something else? Sorry, but IANAL and I will never understand much about +the legal implications of 'copyright'. + +Thanks again. + +Ciao, +=Dick Gevers= +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004648.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4649">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4649">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4649">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4649">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1249160ac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110608/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,187 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 8 June 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>8 June 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jun 8 00:07:43 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Jun 8 23:05:22 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 28<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004629.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4629"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4630"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4637"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4640"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004641.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4641"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4643"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004647.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A><A NAME="4647"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4626"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004646.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A><A NAME="4646"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004649.html">[Mageia-discuss] copyright of wiki content +</A><A NAME="4649"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004623.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4623"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004644.html">[Mageia-discuss] HCL +</A><A NAME="4644"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004635.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox? 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+</A><A NAME="4635"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004623.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4623"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4624"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4627"> </A> +<I>Anthony Irven Scott +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4630"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4636"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4640"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004622.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4622"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004628.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4628"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004633.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? 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+</A><A NAME="4622"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307484463-01307525872- --> +<LI><A HREF="004633.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4633"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01307486957- --> +<LI><A HREF="004623.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4623"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307486957-01307490076- --> +<LI><A HREF="004624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4624"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01307495588- --> +<LI><A HREF="004625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4625"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307495588-01307502853- --> +<LI><A HREF="004626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4626"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307495588-01307502853-01307520800- --> +<LI><A HREF="004629.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4629"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--2 01307495588-01307502853-01307522930- --> +<LI><A HREF="004631.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4631"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307504744- --> +<LI><A HREF="004627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4627"> </A> +<I>Anthony Irven Scott +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307504744-01307521260- --> +<LI><A HREF="004630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4630"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307504744-01307521260-01307532516- --> +<LI><A HREF="004636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4636"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307504744-01307521260-01307532516-01307534657- --> +<LI><A HREF="004640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4640"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307511658- --> +<LI><A HREF="004628.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4628"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307511658-01307534011- --> +<LI><A HREF="004638.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4638"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01307523405- --> +<LI><A HREF="004632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4632"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307523405-01307533953- --> +<LI><A HREF="004637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4637"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307523405-01307533953-01307534635- --> +<LI><A HREF="004639.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4639"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307523405-01307533953-01307534635-01307535520- --> +<LI><A HREF="004641.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4641"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01307523405-01307533953-01307534635-01307535520-01307535738- --> +<LI><A HREF="004642.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4642"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--3 01307523405-01307533953-01307534635-01307535520-01307535738-01307537086- --> +<LI><A HREF="004643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4643"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307526801- --> +<LI><A HREF="004634.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? 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