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+ <B>Thomas Lottmann</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jun 7 17:10:30 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le 07/06/2011 16:36, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 04:00:28PM +0200, Thomas Lottmann wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to do some more testing on a longer period of time, but on the two
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computer using a SuSE based system running Gnome 3, I had quite a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lot numerous visual issues and got one program crashing. But some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time has passed and there were probably updates so I need to retest.
+</I>&gt;<i> This is totally different from the experiences I heard of (aside from
+</I>&gt;<i> driver issues), so it surprises me. Usually feedback is regarding e.g.
+</I>&gt;<i> user interface or broken drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If not too offtopic for this list, could you expand on the visual
+</I>&gt;<i> issues? Something driver related, or something indicating a bug within a
+</I>&gt;<i> program? Also, which program crashed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd assume if GNOME 3 would be included, it would start with GNOME 3.1
+</I>&gt;<i> (unstable version leading up to 3.2). So Mageia 2 would have the 3.2
+</I>&gt;<i> release, not the 3.0 one. In practice: a lot more effort and fixes since
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.0.0.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But looking at the available environments, I'm thinking that in case
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some people really can't handle Gnome 3, there is actually Xfce that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can be a good fallback. I'm not sure there are enough people for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maintaining Gnome 2.32 for six extra months. I am simply cautions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about releases that may not be really polished and stable.
+</I>&gt;<i> My main experience is with Mandriva, and I always loved how quickly
+</I>&gt;<i> they'd have all the new GNOME development releases (generally within
+</I>&gt;<i> hours of the tarballs being available). That's actually a few days
+</I>&gt;<i> before GNOME actually does a release (due to release process + QA).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think not having GNOME 3.0 was a good choice, but there is enough time
+</I>&gt;<i> now and experience to integrate 3.2 nicely.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Related to your question who'd maintain GNOME 2.32? Within GNOME or
+</I>&gt;<i> within Mageia? There won't be any GNOME 2.32.x release within GNOME;
+</I>&gt;<i> though anyone is free to provide patches for those branches.
+</I>
+The question was if it was possible to get Gnome 2.23 to be kept in the
+Mageia repositories for a short time, the time needed for Gnome 3 to
+improve and/or get adopted progressively.
+
+I believe we aren't Fedora, we're Mageia. And we do not need to input
+immediately brightly new versions of some components that may pose some
+issues by lack of massive testing and some functionalities that may be
+missing or frustrate. .1 or .2 should resolve these issues.
+
+Personally, I am not convinced Gnome 3 is good yet, essentially in terms
+of productivity. So it is not only because of some technical issues that
+may appear more or less randomly, but also because of the concept of
+Gnome 3 itself. But this is very subjective and I want to sort out my
+own opinion as well. So basically this is essentially based on my sole
+view.
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