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The default layout looks like +GNOME-shell, but it just is a newer gnome-panel. + +Regarding GNOME 3 not being reliable, can you reference some bugreports? +This as I don't see any huge problems, especially not for a .0 release. +-- +Regards, +Olav +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004581.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4580">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4580">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4580">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4580">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004581.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004581.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7a31a02bb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004581.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTinEO411Sn5SaX54Yg4umgL5dONbVQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004580.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004582.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTinEO411Sn5SaX54Yg4umgL5dONbVQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 10:33:42 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004580.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4581">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4581">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4581">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4581">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/7 Olav Vitters <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>>: +><i> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:48:55AM +0200, Thomas Lottmann wrote: +</I>>><i> On the other hand, I'd like to still have the possibility to keep +</I>>><i> and install Gnome 2.xx in the future, as Gnome 3 isn't both stable +</I>>><i> and reliable and complete yet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> GNOME 2.x is not needed, there is the fallback mode in GNOME3; it'll +</I>><i> give you a gnome-panel and so on. The default layout looks like +</I>><i> GNOME-shell, but it just is a newer gnome-panel. +</I> +The graphics is not such a big issue, as you stated, the user can +always use the fallback mode. + +My personal killer of Gnome3 is the switch from normal editable +configuration files to a kind of registry, to be edited with a special +editor. This is a no-go. Normal text files for configuration is one of +the common basics of Linux (and most *nix based systems). Each rescue +system, be it as small as possible comes with a text editor (I've +never seen any system without vi) to edit configuration files and thus +mend a broken system. This will not be possible with Gnome3. +Correct me if I'm wrong, but this was what the Gnome people told me in Berlin. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004580.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4581">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4581">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4581">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4581">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004582.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004582.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3598aef6c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004582.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607085729.GB5019%40bkor.dhs.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004581.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004583.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Olav Vitters</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607085729.GB5019%40bkor.dhs.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">olav at vitters.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 10:57:29 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004581.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4582">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4582">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4582">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4582">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:33:42AM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> My personal killer of Gnome3 is the switch from normal editable +</I>><i> configuration files to a kind of registry, to be edited with a special +</I>><i> editor. This is a no-go. Normal text files for configuration is one of +</I>><i> the common basics of Linux (and most *nix based systems). Each rescue +</I>><i> system, be it as small as possible comes with a text editor (I've +</I>><i> never seen any system without vi) to edit configuration files and thus +</I>><i> mend a broken system. This will not be possible with Gnome3. +</I>><i> Correct me if I'm wrong, but this was what the Gnome people told me in Berlin. +</I> +Glib has had gsettings for a while. The default backend is 'dconf'; it +uses binary files to store configuration values as to *greatly* speed up +reads (and thus your login). + +Before gsettings, we had XML files, which you can indeed change, but +only when GNOME is not running. Doing that while GNOME was running will +likely break stuff. The way to interact with them was 'gconftool-2'; not +by using an editor. + +In any case, gsettings is not GNOME 3 specific. Run e.g.: + gsettings list-schemas +to see what programs already have been using gsettings on your system. + +The port to gsettings happened during the last few GNOME 2.x releases, +so it is not GNOME 3 specific and you're likely using it already. + +FWIW, if you personally do not want to use the dconf backend, you can +choose something else using the GSETTINGS_BACKEND environment variable. +E.g. 'gconf' exists. Although it is perfectly usable, suggest to stick +with things that everyone else uses; less likely to encounter +bugs/problems. +-- +Regards, +Olav +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004581.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4582">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4582">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4582">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4582">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004583.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004583.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c0a999e5e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004583.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikaWMn4pGF336hMaAnoEfvrOMgxHA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004582.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004592.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikaWMn4pGF336hMaAnoEfvrOMgxHA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 11:08:11 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4583">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4583">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4583">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4583">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/7 Olav Vitters <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>>: +><i> On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:33:42AM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>>><i> My personal killer of Gnome3 is the switch from normal editable +</I>>><i> configuration files to a kind of registry, to be edited with a special +</I>>><i> editor. This is a no-go. Normal text files for configuration is one of +</I>>><i> the common basics of Linux (and most *nix based systems). Each rescue +</I>>><i> system, be it as small as possible comes with a  text editor (I've +</I>>><i> never seen any system without vi) to edit configuration files and thus +</I>>><i> mend a broken system. This will not be possible with Gnome3. +</I>>><i> Correct me if I'm wrong, but this was what the Gnome people told me in Berlin. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Glib has had gsettings for a while. The default backend is 'dconf'; it +</I>><i> uses binary files to store configuration values as to *greatly* speed up +</I>><i> reads (and thus your login). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Before gsettings, we had XML files, which you can indeed change, but +</I>><i> only when GNOME is not running. Doing that while GNOME was running will +</I>><i> likely break stuff. The way to interact with them was 'gconftool-2'; not +</I>><i> by using an editor. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In any case, gsettings is not GNOME 3 specific. Run e.g.: +</I>><i>  gsettings list-schemas +</I>><i> to see what programs already have been using gsettings on your system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The port to gsettings happened during the last few GNOME 2.x releases, +</I>><i> so it is not GNOME 3 specific and you're likely using it already. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> FWIW, if you personally do not want to use the dconf backend, you can +</I>><i> choose something else using the GSETTINGS_BACKEND environment variable. +</I>><i> E.g. 'gconf' exists. Although it is perfectly usable, suggest to stick +</I>><i> with things that everyone else uses; less likely to encounter +</I>><i> bugs/problems. +</I> +Ok, all this was new for me. I am but an occasional user of Gnome and +I automatically assumed that Gnome has the same basic paradigms as all +the rest of Linux. If this is not the case then it's not Gnome3 I will +stay away from but Gnome in general. + +Thx for enlightening me. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4583">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4583">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4583">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4583">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004584.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004584.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..53c9285f0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004584.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEDED91.8030809%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004592.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004585.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEDED91.8030809%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 11:21:21 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4584">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4584">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4584">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4584">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> 2011/6/7 Olav Vitters<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>>: +</I>>><i> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:48:55AM +0200, Thomas Lottmann wrote: +</I>>>><i> On the other hand, I'd like to still have the possibility to keep +</I>>>><i> and install Gnome 2.xx in the future, as Gnome 3 isn't both stable +</I>>>><i> and reliable and complete yet. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> GNOME 2.x is not needed, there is the fallback mode in GNOME3; it'll +</I>>><i> give you a gnome-panel and so on. The default layout looks like +</I>>><i> GNOME-shell, but it just is a newer gnome-panel. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The graphics is not such a big issue, as you stated, the user can +</I>><i> always use the fallback mode. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My personal killer of Gnome3 is the switch from normal editable +</I>><i> configuration files to a kind of registry, to be edited with a special +</I>><i> editor. This is a no-go. Normal text files for configuration is one of +</I>><i> the common basics of Linux (and most *nix based systems). Each rescue +</I>><i> system, be it as small as possible comes with a text editor (I've +</I>><i> never seen any system without vi) to edit configuration files and thus +</I>><i> mend a broken system. This will not be possible with Gnome3. +</I>><i> Correct me if I'm wrong, but this was what the Gnome people told me in Berlin. +</I> +No offense, but I hope you're wrong. I wouldn't like to see that either. + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4584">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4584">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4584">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4584">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004585.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004585.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..24d7a59b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004585.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607092218.GU26140%40barfooze.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004584.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004591.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Moritz Wilhelmy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607092218.GU26140%40barfooze.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">ml+mageia at wzff.de + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 11:22:18 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4585">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4585">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4585">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4585">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:33:42 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> My personal killer of Gnome3 is the switch from normal editable +</I>><i> configuration files to a kind of registry, to be edited with a special +</I>><i> editor. This is a no-go. Normal text files for configuration is one of +</I>><i> the common basics of Linux (and most *nix based systems). Each rescue +</I>><i> system, be it as small as possible comes with a text editor (I've +</I>><i> never seen any system without vi) +</I> +Vanilla ubuntu ships nano and ed, but without vi as far as I remember… + +Glad someone else thinks text based configuration is a big plus. I +thought we were extinct. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4585">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4585">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4585">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4585">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004586.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004586.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..98b60a828 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004586.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607093533.GV26140%40barfooze.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004616.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004587.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list</H1> + <B>Moritz Wilhelmy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607093533.GV26140%40barfooze.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list">ml+mageia at wzff.de + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 11:35:33 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004587.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4586">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4586">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4586">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4586">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I'd say, ditch the idea of a forum altogether and stick to Mailing lists. It +makes filtering easier and is less cumbersome to use, but then again, that +might be only me. I've never seen any good come out of a forum. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004587.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4586">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4586">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4586">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4586">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004587.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004587.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..29c0b7ea2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004587.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3C201106071145.24286.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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If anyone wants to help => go and see within the +webteam! + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004587.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4588">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4588">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4588">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4588">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004589.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004589.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6563296c8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004589.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307441341.27877.53.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004619.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004594.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307441341.27877.53.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 12:09:00 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004594.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4589">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4589">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4589">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4589">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 06 juin 2011 à 10:37 +0200, Daniel Kreuter a écrit : +><i> Hello all, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I like the idea of a dedicated support ml for users. Ubuntu is using such +</I>><i> lists and it is very well used even there exists irc and forums as well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So why shouldn't we try something like that? If it's not used we can delete +</I>><i> the list and use the forums instead. +</I> +My main argument against a separate user ml is this would create 2 +separate support community, with all issues that it create ( clutter, +different feedback, lack of communication between helpers since some of +them will not go at all on the forum or ml ). In fact, I would even +remove irc from the support stuff and only promote the forum as such for +the time being. + +We have setup a whole governance system to gather feedback from the +whole community ( with team, elected representative, etc ), and having +lots of small sub community just make this feedback more complex. + +See for example here. The discussion is on the ml, but why shouldn't it +on the forums too ? And once on forum, why not include people that are +only on irc ( and on every chan ) ? + +So as long as there is no official support team, with a structure, +elected people and that the team is running well ( ie, is sustainable +and running since some months without trouble ), splitting support is +just making our life harder in the long term. + +><i> Like already mentioned the users should decide which kind of medium to use +</I>><i> to ask their questions. +</I> +I beg to differ. +The project should decide, based on the ressources and on the goal to +achieve, what it offer. That doesn't mean it doesn't need to take +feedback in account, far from it. But there is more than simply users +wish to take in account, and forgetting this reality is giving false +expectations. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004594.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4589">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4589">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4589">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4589">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004590.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004590.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..876106a41 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004590.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3C1307442843.27877.57.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004615.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004617.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3C1307442843.27877.57.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 12:34:03 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004615.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4590">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4590">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4590">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4590">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le samedi 04 juin 2011 à 11:57 -0400, Hoyt Duff a écrit : +><i> On 6/3/11, Gary Montalbine <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gmontalbine at cox.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I got the firmware from the IVTV site and copied it to /lib/firmware +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But that is a band-aid, a kludge, that gives you a cobbled-together +</I>><i> system, not to mention it does not really solve the problem for the +</I>><i> distro and the wider user base. And every time you need to install +</I>><i> Mageia on that hardware, you'll need to apply the kludge again and +</I>><i> again. +</I> +There is lots of firmware that cannot even be distributed. Of course, we +could do like Canonical and just pretend laws do not exist : +<A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20090423">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20090423</A> , s this clearly annoy +users... + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004615.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4590">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4590">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4590">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4590">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004591.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004591.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..10b819b7c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004591.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C201106070652.47380.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004585.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004598.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C201106070652.47380.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 12:52:47 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4591">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4591">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4591">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4591">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 05:22 my mailbox was graced by a message from Moritz +Wilhelmy who wrote: +><i> Glad someone else thinks text based configuration is a big plus. I +</I>><i> thought we were extinct. +</I> +We are not (yet) but still struggling in the tar-pit... + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + No discipline is ever requisite + to force attendance upon lectures + which are really worth the attending. + -- Adam Smith + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4591">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4591">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4591">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4591">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004592.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004592.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..96523c30e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004592.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE0BD9.3040406%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004583.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004584.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE0BD9.3040406%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 13:30:33 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4592">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4592">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4592">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4592">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 06/07/2011 05:08 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> Ok, all this was new for me. I am but an occasional user of Gnome and +</I>><i> I automatically assumed that Gnome has the same basic paradigms as all +</I>><i> the rest of Linux. If this is not the case then it's not Gnome3 I will +</I>><i> stay away from but Gnome in general. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thx for enlightening me. +</I>><i> +</I>Regardless of the shortcomings of GNOME 3.x, one argument in its favor +is that it's actually supported. 2.3x has had fundamental bugs since it +was dropped into MDV and they have not been fixed nor are they likely to +be, given that the GNOME devs now have a new toy. +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4592">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4592">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4592">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4592">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004593.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004593.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4cc014777 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004593.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20No%20USB%20with%20VirtualBox%20on%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307446885.27877.68.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004617.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004597.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20No%20USB%20with%20VirtualBox%20on%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307446885.27877.68.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 13:41:25 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004597.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4593">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4593">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4593">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4593">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 06 juin 2011 à 12:19 +0100, Maurice Batey a écrit : +><i> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:41:09 +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > (The $1000 question, what is any distro shipping only python 2.7 gonna +</I>><i> > do about this mismatch? Nothing actually, since they have no control +</I>><i> > on packages built by upstream). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So the answer to my question ("What is Mageia going to do about this +</I>><i> mismatch?") is: "Nothing"? +</I> +"ask you to see with Oracle as they do not wish us to modify their +software" + +It is proprietary software, the copyright holder explicitly tell "we are +the only one who can modify and fix it, others cannot", so that's rather +clear to me that they are the ones to contact. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004597.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4593">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4593">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4593">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4593">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004594.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004594.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f2dd37f0c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004594.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? 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To the best of my knowledge +</I>><i> > MIB did not bother to ask Skype. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > That was last year. If both these informations are obsolete now, pls +</I>><i> > forget what I wrote. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then maybe we can prepare a mageia rpm for skype and send to skype, or +</I>><i> why is a fedora rpm in download sections ? +</I> +Well, people can do it. + +Personally, I will not. I think it is better to spend my time on +software where the owners collaborate rather than on software where the +owners don't. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004601.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4595">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4595">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4595">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4595">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004596.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004596.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eae6b810b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004596.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE1476.2020207%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004594.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004599.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE1476.2020207%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 14:07:18 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004594.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004599.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4596">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4596">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4596">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4596">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 06:09 my mailbox was graced by a message from Michael +</I>><i> Scherer who wrote: +</I>>><i> My main argument against a separate user ml is this would create 2 +</I>>><i> separate support community, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I am not advocating a separate mailing list, but that the forum be also +</I>><i> distributed as a mailing list, or the mailing list accessible as a forum, both +</I>><i> having the same content. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> One support community, with two modes of access and distribution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ron. +</I> +For your information ... +Earlier in the thread (2011-06-06 11:57 utc), Maat mentioned that the forums have RSS enabled to +permit following discussions by email. 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Nothing actually, since they have no control +</I>>>><i> on packages built by upstream). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So the answer to my question ("What is Mageia going to do about this +</I>>><i> mismatch?") is: "Nothing"? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "ask you to see with Oracle as they do not wish us to modify their +</I>><i> software" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It is proprietary software, the copyright holder explicitly tell "we are +</I>><i> the only one who can modify and fix it, others cannot", so that's rather +</I>><i> clear to me that they are the ones to contact. +</I> +A question for the expert : +Is it possible to make symbolic links that will compensate for the different versions of python +(2.7 and 2.6), like seems to be done on Mandriva with minor version differences of perl ? +Or some adaptation of requires/provides in the spec files ? + + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004593.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004601.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4597">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4597">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4597">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4597">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004598.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004598.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e5f103fa9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004598.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DzbpQrjBcBv66WV5WuUcMDu5zibg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004591.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004606.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>姚智偉</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DzbpQrjBcBv66WV5WuUcMDu5zibg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 14:42:59 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4598">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4598">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4598">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4598">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/7 Olav Vitters <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>> + +><i> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:48:55AM +0200, Thomas Lottmann wrote: +</I>><i> > On the other hand, I'd like to still have the possibility to keep +</I>><i> > and install Gnome 2.xx in the future, as Gnome 3 isn't both stable +</I>><i> > and reliable and complete yet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> GNOME 2.x is not needed, there is the fallback mode in GNOME3; it'll +</I>><i> give you a gnome-panel and so on. The default layout looks like +</I>><i> GNOME-shell, but it just is a newer gnome-panel. +</I>><i> +</I>Fallback mode would be killed someday.... + +I don't think that a good statement to argue that GNOME3 can replace + +GNOME2. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110607/2c6f779a/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4598">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4598">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4598">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4598">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004599.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004599.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ab8551104 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004599.html @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cisl7e3%24voq%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004596.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004603.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cisl7e3%24voq%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 15:00:51 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004596.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004603.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4599">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4599">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4599">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4599">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2011-06-07 08:07, andre999 a écrit : +><i> Renaud (Ron) Olgiati a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 06:09 my mailbox was graced by a message from +</I>>><i> Michael +</I>>><i> Scherer who wrote: +</I>>>><i> My main argument against a separate user ml is this would create 2 +</I>>>><i> separate support community, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I am not advocating a separate mailing list, but that the forum be also +</I>>><i> distributed as a mailing list, or the mailing list accessible as a +</I>>><i> forum, both +</I>>><i> having the same content. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> One support community, with two modes of access and distribution. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Ron. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For your information ... +</I>><i> Earlier in the thread (2011-06-06 11:57 utc), Maat mentioned that the +</I>><i> forums have RSS enabled to permit following discussions by email. Even +</I>><i> following selected parts of the forums. +</I>><i> +</I> +You are not splitting up the support community if you bridge the forums +and "user" mailist. In fact, you are enhancing it. Some of us will +frequent the mailist as our first choice of communication. For that +matter, we should all be sharing the burden of supporting our users. +That is to say that we (the Mageia members) should all be on the user +forums bridge to user mailist to help out when we can. + +You cannot split the support community when you are bridging the mailist +with the forums (and even with Gmane to complete the full circle). This +is the most effective way of advertising that your product is based on +support without discrimination of the mode of user communication. This +is what would set us apart from other distros. + +As far as rss feeds, this works only for the support team members, it +does not help in any way a user who is asking for help as the rss is +useless in this case. + +Bridging all three, forums/mailist/Gmane can be done and once +implemented will be a big plus for trouble shooting and collecting data +for bugzilla. + +At this early point of development we need user feedback from the user +community regarding our distro. What, I wonder, is the rationale for +limiting the chance of collecting more data from our user base? + +Cheers + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004596.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004603.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4599">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4599">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4599">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4599">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004600.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004600.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d5089181d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004600.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3Cisl823%243sg%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004595.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004602.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3Cisl823%243sg%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 15:11:31 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4600">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4600">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4600">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4600">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2011-06-07 07:50, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le samedi 04 juin 2011 à 18:28 -0500, José Alberto Valle Cid a écrit : +</I>>><i> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Wolfgang Bornath<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> 2011/6/4 Marc Paré<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>>: +</I>>>><i> Well, last time I checked and asked Skype.com if we (mandrivauser.de) +</I>>>><i> could distribute a Skype rpm in one of our editions (MUD Netbook +</I>>>><i> Edition) my request was rejected by Skype. To the best of my knowledge +</I>>>><i> MIB did not bother to ask Skype. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> That was last year. If both these informations are obsolete now, pls +</I>>>><i> forget what I wrote. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Then maybe we can prepare a mageia rpm for skype and send to skype, or +</I>>><i> why is a fedora rpm in download sections ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, people can do it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Personally, I will not. I think it is better to spend my time on +</I>><i> software where the owners collaborate rather than on software where the +</I>><i> owners don't. +</I>><i> +</I> +I just downloaded the "Static" Linux version of Skype from +<A HREF="http://www.skype.com.">http://www.skype.com.</A> Uncompressed it and double-clicked on the "Skype" +file and it works. + +The steps taken to "install" the software package (the only step a user +has to do is uncompress the file) are the same amount of steps it would +take if it were in the MCC. The clear advantage of getting the Skype +site version is that you get the most recent Skype Linux version. + +As mentioned by many, the Skype proprietary software does not fit the +profile of a programme that could/will be put in our repositories. Being +as it installs so easily, there is no need to package it from any +repository, + +The most difficult part for users is to create the icon link on their +desktop. + +Cheers + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4600">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4600">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4600">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4600">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004601.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004601.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b58b3ae3c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004601.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20No%20USB%20with%20VirtualBox%20on%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307453881.27877.76.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004597.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004595.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20No%20USB%20with%20VirtualBox%20on%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307453881.27877.76.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 15:38:00 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004597.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4601">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4601">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4601">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4601">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 07 juin 2011 à 08:16 -0400, andre999 a écrit : +><i> Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Le lundi 06 juin 2011 à 12:19 +0100, Maurice Batey a écrit : +</I>><i> >> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:41:09 +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote: +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >>> (The $1000 question, what is any distro shipping only python 2.7 gonna +</I>><i> >>> do about this mismatch? Nothing actually, since they have no control +</I>><i> >>> on packages built by upstream). +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> So the answer to my question ("What is Mageia going to do about this +</I>><i> >> mismatch?") is: "Nothing"? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > "ask you to see with Oracle as they do not wish us to modify their +</I>><i> > software" +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > It is proprietary software, the copyright holder explicitly tell "we are +</I>><i> > the only one who can modify and fix it, others cannot", so that's rather +</I>><i> > clear to me that they are the ones to contact. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A question for the expert : +</I>><i> Is it possible to make symbolic links that will compensate for the different versions of python +</I>><i> (2.7 and 2.6), like seems to be done on Mandriva with minor version differences of perl ? +</I>><i> Or some adaptation of requires/provides in the spec files ? +</I> +No. there is no ABI guarantee on python version 2.X, and AFAIK, it was +implemented only for 3.2 ( or that's what I understood, antoine will +correct me if I am wrong ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004597.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4601">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4601">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4601">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4601">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004602.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004602.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3fdfc8062 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004602.html @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3C201106070938.11255.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004600.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004605.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3C201106070938.11255.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 15:38:11 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004605.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4602">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4602">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4602">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4602">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 09:11 my mailbox was graced by a message from Marc Paré +who wrote: + +><i> > Personally, I will not. I think it is better to spend my time on +</I>><i> > software where the owners collaborate rather than on software where the +</I>><i> > owners don't. +</I> +Maybe we should think less of what the prog owners do, and more on whether or +not the users want/need the prog ? + +><i> I just downloaded the "Static" Linux version of Skype from +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.skype.com.">http://www.skype.com.</A> Uncompressed it and double-clicked on the "Skype" +</I>><i> file and it works. +</I>><i> The steps taken to "install" the software package (the only step a user +</I>><i> has to do is uncompress the file) are the same amount of steps it would +</I>><i> take if it were in the MCC. The clear advantage of getting the Skype +</I>><i> site version is that you get the most recent Skype Linux version. +</I>><i> As mentioned by many, the Skype proprietary software does not fit the +</I>><i> profile of a programme that could/will be put in our repositories. Being +</I>><i> as it installs so easily, there is no need to package it from any +</I>><i> repository, +</I>><i> The most difficult part for users is to create the icon link on their +</I>><i> desktop. +</I> +Just installed Skype on a new install of Mdv2010.2 (had to go back to Mdv as +Mageia lacks some progs I need) using the Skype4Mandriva_latest.sh install +script; this is in Portuguese, but works perfectly; maybe we could look into +using this as the base of a rpm that, once installed, would run the script and +download and install Skype, including put an icon wherever it is needed (menu, +desktop etc) ? + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + Les vieux donnent de bons conseils pour se consoler + de ne plus pouvoir donner le mauvais exemple. + -- La Rochefoucauld + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004605.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4602">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4602">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4602">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4602">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004603.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004603.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3cc89bad9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004603.html @@ -0,0 +1,121 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307455045.27877.89.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004599.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004615.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1307455045.27877.89.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 15:57:24 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004599.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004615.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4603">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4603">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4603">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4603">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 07 juin 2011 à 09:00 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +><i> Le 2011-06-07 08:07, andre999 a écrit : +</I>><i> > Renaud (Ron) Olgiati a écrit : +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 06:09 my mailbox was graced by a message from +</I>><i> >> Michael +</I>><i> >> Scherer who wrote: +</I>><i> >>> My main argument against a separate user ml is this would create 2 +</I>><i> >>> separate support community, +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> I am not advocating a separate mailing list, but that the forum be also +</I>><i> >> distributed as a mailing list, or the mailing list accessible as a +</I>><i> >> forum, both +</I>><i> >> having the same content. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> One support community, with two modes of access and distribution. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Cheers, +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Ron. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > For your information ... +</I>><i> > Earlier in the thread (2011-06-06 11:57 utc), Maat mentioned that the +</I>><i> > forums have RSS enabled to permit following discussions by email. Even +</I>><i> > following selected parts of the forums. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You are not splitting up the support community if you bridge the forums +</I>><i> and "user" mailist. In fact, you are enhancing it. +</I> +Then I propose that first the system is working, and then we see how it +work. The code for forum is on <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git,">git://git.mageia.org/git/forums.git,</A> +anybody can clone and send patches. + +The same goes for the code for the setup of our server is on svn : +<A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet/">svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/adm/puppet/</A> + +Heck, we even answer to questions regarding puppet if someone ask them. + +Until that I receive a patch, I think I will focus on the current TODO +list + +><i> At this early point of development we need user feedback from the user +</I>><i> community regarding our distro. What, I wonder, is the rationale for +</I>><i> limiting the chance of collecting more data from our user base? +</I> +Are you volunteer to collect and summarize feedback from the existing +tools ? + +If the answer is "no", then we will not do anything with more feedback, +except doing false hope to people. + +If the answer is "yes", show us the work. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004599.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004615.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4603">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4603">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4603">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4603">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004604.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004604.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0724a4b40 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004604.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE2EFC.6070800%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004606.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004607.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE2EFC.6070800%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">skiperdrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 16:00:28 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004607.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4604">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4604">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4604">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4604">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 07/06/2011 10:00, Olav Vitters a écrit : +><i> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:48:55AM +0200, Thomas Lottmann wrote: +</I>>><i> On the other hand, I'd like to still have the possibility to keep +</I>>><i> and install Gnome 2.xx in the future, as Gnome 3 isn't both stable +</I>>><i> and reliable and complete yet. +</I>><i> GNOME 2.x is not needed, there is the fallback mode in GNOME3; it'll +</I>><i> give you a gnome-panel and so on. The default layout looks like +</I>><i> GNOME-shell, but it just is a newer gnome-panel. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regarding GNOME 3 not being reliable, can you reference some bugreports? +</I>><i> This as I don't see any huge problems, especially not for a .0 release. +</I> +The falback mode still relies qui a lot on Gnome 3. I concede I need to +do some more testing on a longer period of time, but on the two computer +using a SuSE based system running Gnome 3, I had quite a lot numerous +visual issues and got one program crashing. But some time has passed and +there were probably updates so I need to retest. + +But looking at the available environments, I'm thinking that in case +some people really can't handle Gnome 3, there is actually Xfce that can +be a good fallback. I'm not sure there are enough people for maintaining +Gnome 2.32 for six extra months. 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I think it is better to spend my time on +</I>><i> > > software where the owners collaborate rather than on software where the +</I>><i> > > owners don't. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe we should think less of what the prog owners do, and more on whether or +</I>><i> not the users want/need the prog ? +</I> +As I said, I prevent no one from doing the work of sending the package +to skype. + +Just to be sure, as a volunteer, I am free to not do something and to +focus on others tasks, I didn't promised assistance on anything ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4605">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4605">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4605">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4605">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004606.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004606.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6587237f6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004606.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607141234.GC5019%40bkor.dhs.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004598.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004604.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Olav Vitters</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607141234.GC5019%40bkor.dhs.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">olav at vitters.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 16:12:34 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4606">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4606">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4606">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4606">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 08:42:59PM +0800, 姚智偉 wrote: +><i> Fallback mode would be killed someday.... +</I> +Not during 3.x. + +><i> I don't think that a good statement to argue that GNOME3 can replace +</I>><i> +</I>><i> GNOME2. +</I> +Care to clarify? + +GNOME 2.32 is not needed if you use fallback of GNOME 3.x[1]. That +_maybe_ gnome-panel won't be in GNOME 4.x doesn't change the fact that +GNOME 2.32 is not needed when GNOME 3.x is available. + +The decision regarding to keep gnome-panel can be made at whichever time +gnome-panel is actually is dropped. But at the moment and foreseeable +future, that is not the case. + +FWIW, GNOME panel has received more attention in the buildup towards +GNOME 3 than it did during *many* GNOME 2.x releases. +-- +Regards, +Olav + +[1] For fallback experience, best to use GNOME 3.2. A few applets +weren't ported in time to make the 3.0 deadline. Latest GNOME 3.2 +gnome-applets unstable versions have a lot more applets ported. +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4606">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4606">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4606">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4606">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004607.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004607.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..53f916cef --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004607.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607143653.GD5019%40bkor.dhs.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004604.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004608.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Olav Vitters</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C20110607143653.GD5019%40bkor.dhs.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">olav at vitters.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 16:36:53 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4607">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4607">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4607">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4607">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 04:00:28PM +0200, Thomas Lottmann wrote: +><i> Le 07/06/2011 10:00, Olav Vitters a écrit : +</I>><i> >On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:48:55AM +0200, Thomas Lottmann wrote: +</I>><i> >>On the other hand, I'd like to still have the possibility to keep +</I>><i> >>and install Gnome 2.xx in the future, as Gnome 3 isn't both stable +</I>><i> >>and reliable and complete yet. +</I>><i> >GNOME 2.x is not needed, there is the fallback mode in GNOME3; it'll +</I>><i> >give you a gnome-panel and so on. The default layout looks like +</I>><i> >GNOME-shell, but it just is a newer gnome-panel. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >Regarding GNOME 3 not being reliable, can you reference some bugreports? +</I>><i> >This as I don't see any huge problems, especially not for a .0 release. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The falback mode still relies qui a lot on Gnome 3. I concede I need +</I> +That is the point, gnome-panel continues to be maintained in 3.x. But +for GNOME 3, gnome-panel is mainly: + * removing of deprecated stuff like bonobo + * usage of gtk3 instead of gtk2 + * some UI changes to make it look like GNOME shell + +See for instance +<A HREF="http://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/04/13/gnome-panel-is-dead,-long-live-gnome-panel!">http://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/04/13/gnome-panel-is-dead,-long-live-gnome-panel!</A> + +Of course, GNOME 3.x relies on a new enough networkmanager and so on. +The fallback will require the same. Similarly, gnome-control-center will +look different and so on. This is also why it is called fallback +(metacity instead of mutter, gnome-panel instead of gnome-shell, +networkmanager uses the trayicon, rest is more or less similar). + +><i> to do some more testing on a longer period of time, but on the two +</I>><i> computer using a SuSE based system running Gnome 3, I had quite a +</I>><i> lot numerous visual issues and got one program crashing. But some +</I>><i> time has passed and there were probably updates so I need to retest. +</I> +This is totally different from the experiences I heard of (aside from +driver issues), so it surprises me. Usually feedback is regarding e.g. +user interface or broken drivers. + +If not too offtopic for this list, could you expand on the visual +issues? Something driver related, or something indicating a bug within a +program? Also, which program crashed? + +I'd assume if GNOME 3 would be included, it would start with GNOME 3.1 +(unstable version leading up to 3.2). So Mageia 2 would have the 3.2 +release, not the 3.0 one. In practice: a lot more effort and fixes since +3.0.0. + +><i> But looking at the available environments, I'm thinking that in case +</I>><i> some people really can't handle Gnome 3, there is actually Xfce that +</I>><i> can be a good fallback. I'm not sure there are enough people for +</I>><i> maintaining Gnome 2.32 for six extra months. I am simply cautions +</I>><i> about releases that may not be really polished and stable. +</I> +My main experience is with Mandriva, and I always loved how quickly +they'd have all the new GNOME development releases (generally within +hours of the tarballs being available). That's actually a few days +before GNOME actually does a release (due to release process + QA). + +I think not having GNOME 3.0 was a good choice, but there is enough time +now and experience to integrate 3.2 nicely. + +Related to your question who'd maintain GNOME 2.32? Within GNOME or +within Mageia? There won't be any GNOME 2.32.x release within GNOME; +though anyone is free to provide patches for those branches. +-- +Regards, +Olav +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4607">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4607">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4607">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4607">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004608.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004608.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4929ceacc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004608.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE3F66.9010002%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004607.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004609.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE3F66.9010002%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">skiperdrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 17:10:30 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004607.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4608">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4608">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4608">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4608">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 07/06/2011 16:36, Olav Vitters a écrit : +><i> On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 04:00:28PM +0200, Thomas Lottmann wrote: +</I>>><i> to do some more testing on a longer period of time, but on the two +</I>>><i> computer using a SuSE based system running Gnome 3, I had quite a +</I>>><i> lot numerous visual issues and got one program crashing. But some +</I>>><i> time has passed and there were probably updates so I need to retest. +</I>><i> This is totally different from the experiences I heard of (aside from +</I>><i> driver issues), so it surprises me. Usually feedback is regarding e.g. +</I>><i> user interface or broken drivers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If not too offtopic for this list, could you expand on the visual +</I>><i> issues? Something driver related, or something indicating a bug within a +</I>><i> program? Also, which program crashed? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'd assume if GNOME 3 would be included, it would start with GNOME 3.1 +</I>><i> (unstable version leading up to 3.2). So Mageia 2 would have the 3.2 +</I>><i> release, not the 3.0 one. In practice: a lot more effort and fixes since +</I>><i> 3.0.0. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> But looking at the available environments, I'm thinking that in case +</I>>><i> some people really can't handle Gnome 3, there is actually Xfce that +</I>>><i> can be a good fallback. I'm not sure there are enough people for +</I>>><i> maintaining Gnome 2.32 for six extra months. I am simply cautions +</I>>><i> about releases that may not be really polished and stable. +</I>><i> My main experience is with Mandriva, and I always loved how quickly +</I>><i> they'd have all the new GNOME development releases (generally within +</I>><i> hours of the tarballs being available). That's actually a few days +</I>><i> before GNOME actually does a release (due to release process + QA). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think not having GNOME 3.0 was a good choice, but there is enough time +</I>><i> now and experience to integrate 3.2 nicely. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Related to your question who'd maintain GNOME 2.32? Within GNOME or +</I>><i> within Mageia? There won't be any GNOME 2.32.x release within GNOME; +</I>><i> though anyone is free to provide patches for those branches. +</I> +The question was if it was possible to get Gnome 2.23 to be kept in the +Mageia repositories for a short time, the time needed for Gnome 3 to +improve and/or get adopted progressively. + +I believe we aren't Fedora, we're Mageia. And we do not need to input +immediately brightly new versions of some components that may pose some +issues by lack of massive testing and some functionalities that may be +missing or frustrate. .1 or .2 should resolve these issues. + +Personally, I am not convinced Gnome 3 is good yet, essentially in terms +of productivity. So it is not only because of some technical issues that +may appear more or less randomly, but also because of the concept of +Gnome 3 itself. But this is very subjective and I want to sort out my +own opinion as well. So basically this is essentially based on my sole +view. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004607.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4608">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4608">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4608">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4608">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004609.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004609.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f2504df0e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004609.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C1307460114.27877.119.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004608.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004613.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C1307460114.27877.119.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 17:21:53 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4609">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4609">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4609">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4609">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 07 juin 2011 à 17:10 +0200, Thomas Lottmann a écrit : + +><i> The question was if it was possible to get Gnome 2.23 to be kept in the +</I>><i> Mageia repositories for a short time, the time needed for Gnome 3 to +</I>><i> improve and/or get adopted progressively. +</I> +As usual, if someone do the work. +Any takers ? 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+ +thx + +Jim + +-- +It's no use crying over spilt milk -- it only makes it salty for the cat. +---------------------- +Mageia release 1 (Official) for x86_64 +2.6.38.7-desktop-1.mga x86_64 +---------------------- + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004605.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4610">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4610">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4610">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4610">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004611.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004611.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..49dee02b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004611.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Missing%20lib%20for%20acroread&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1106071809260.22545%40zem.cjw.nep%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004610.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004612.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread</H1> + <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Missing%20lib%20for%20acroread&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1106071809260.22545%40zem.cjw.nep%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 18:14:13 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4611">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4611">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4611">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4611">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Jim Whitby wrote: + +><i> Installed the latest Adobe Reader ( 9.4.2 ) rpm. +</I>><i> Which installed several i586 libs, but gives the following error: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> /usr/bin/acroread: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: +</I>><i> undefined symbol: g_source_set_name +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Any suggestions on what lib is missing? +</I> +Sounds like it's loading some system libs and some of its own libs. This +symbol is defined in /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 from libglib2.0_0-2.28.6-3.mga1 +(but I checked on x86-64 so path and package name started with lib64). + + + Christiaan +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4611">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4611">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4611">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4611">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004612.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004612.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..afb35a529 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004612.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Missing%20lib%20for%20acroread&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DY9Xiugpde4GawBU2TKL3kkWN-Tg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004611.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004614.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Missing%20lib%20for%20acroread&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DY9Xiugpde4GawBU2TKL3kkWN-Tg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 18:16:59 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4612">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4612">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4612">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4612">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 7 June 2011 18:14, Christiaan Welvaart <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>> wrote: +><i> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Jim Whitby wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Installed the latest Adobe Reader ( 9.4.2 ) rpm. +</I>>><i> Which installed several i586 libs, but gives the following error: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> /usr/bin/acroread: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: +</I>>><i> undefined symbol: g_source_set_name +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Any suggestions on what lib is missing? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sounds like it's loading some system libs and some of its own libs. This +</I>><i> symbol is defined in /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 from libglib2.0_0-2.28.6-3.mga1 +</I>><i> (but I checked on x86-64 so path and package name started with lib64). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i>    Christiaan +</I>><i> +</I> +Yeah, libglib2.0_0-2.28.6-3.mga1; I tested and acroread loads fine here. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4612">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4612">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4612">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4612">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004613.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004613.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f4374282f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004613.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimHXUvvma6_NtQ1Nwq10t%3DjOfRZhA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004609.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004616.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>philippe makowski</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimHXUvvma6_NtQ1Nwq10t%3DjOfRZhA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">makowski.mageia at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 19:18:25 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4613">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4613">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4613">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4613">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/7 Thomas Lottmann <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Personally, I am not convinced Gnome 3 is good yet, essentially in terms of +</I>><i> productivity. So it is not only because of some technical issues that may +</I>><i> appear more or less randomly, but also because of the concept of Gnome 3 +</I>><i> itself. But this is very subjective +</I>yes very + +Before the storm and lightning damage my main computer, I was using +F15 with Gnome 3 +and I like it + +now I have a box under Mageia, and I miss Gnome 3 ;) + +but I like Mageia of course +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4613">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4613">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4613">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4613">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004614.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004614.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..687549a3d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004614.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Missing%20lib%20for%20acroread&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE679B.7090208%40whitby-jr.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004612.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004618.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread</H1> + <B>Jim Whitby</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Missing%20lib%20for%20acroread&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE679B.7090208%40whitby-jr.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread">jim at whitby-jr.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 20:02:03 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4614">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4614">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4614">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4614">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 06/07/2011 12:16 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote: +><i> On 7 June 2011 18:14, Christiaan Welvaart<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Jim Whitby wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Installed the latest Adobe Reader ( 9.4.2 ) rpm. +</I>>>><i> Which installed several i586 libs, but gives the following error: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> /usr/bin/acroread: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: +</I>>>><i> undefined symbol: g_source_set_name +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Any suggestions on what lib is missing? +</I>>><i> Sounds like it's loading some system libs and some of its own libs. This +</I>>><i> symbol is defined in /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 from libglib2.0_0-2.28.6-3.mga1 +</I>>><i> (but I checked on x86-64 so path and package name started with lib64). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Christiaan +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Yeah, libglib2.0_0-2.28.6-3.mga1; I tested and acroread loads fine here. +</I>><i> +</I>Interesting. The Mdv version was installed. The Mga version was slightly +newer, but installed it and now it works just fine. + +Thx! + + +-- +Save gas, don't use the shell. +---------------------- +Mageia release 1 (Official) for x86_64 +2.6.38.7-desktop-1.mga x86_64 +---------------------- + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4614">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4614">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4614">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4614">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004615.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004615.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d397ca0ba --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004615.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cislp8p%24oc9%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004603.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004590.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cislp8p%24oc9%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 20:05:13 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004603.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4615">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4615">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4615">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4615">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2011-06-07 09:57, Michael Scherer a écrit : + +><i> +</I>>><i> At this early point of development we need user feedback from the user +</I>>><i> community regarding our distro. What, I wonder, is the rationale for +</I>>><i> limiting the chance of collecting more data from our user base? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Are you volunteer to collect and summarize feedback from the existing +</I>><i> tools ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If the answer is "no", then we will not do anything with more feedback, +</I>><i> except doing false hope to people. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If the answer is "yes", show us the work. +</I>><i> +</I> +Sure, what would you like me to do. + +FYI ... I was an active contributor to the Mageia marketing team but +have had 3 spinal surgeries since last April where I have had to relearn +how to walk each time. I had my last one April 1st and am still in +recovery which has cut up my volunteer time a bit. I am also holding the +mageia.ca domain which is pointing to the mageia.org site. + +If you are saying that this will help convince you that bridging these +together are a good idea, then no problem. + +Let me know what you need done. I am hoping to re-join the Mageia +marketing team but am lurking for the moment. + +Marc + +NB I am also active on the LibreOffice marketing team. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004603.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4615">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4615">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4615">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4615">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004616.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004616.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8bb4ab881 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004616.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DncXTQ_ob_%3DNxQbkr-KSBpAGMz1g%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004613.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004586.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Daniel Kreuter</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DncXTQ_ob_%3DNxQbkr-KSBpAGMz1g%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 20:10:07 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004586.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4616">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4616">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4616">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4616">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Until today i was using F15 with Gnome3, now i use Mageia with LXDE, and i +like it, looks nice so. + +I'm not a packager, yet, so i am not able to maintain gnome3 for mageia. + +On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:18 PM, philippe makowski <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">makowski.mageia at gmail.com</A> +><i> wrote: +</I> +><i> 2011/6/7 Thomas Lottmann <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > Personally, I am not convinced Gnome 3 is good yet, essentially in terms +</I>><i> of +</I>><i> > productivity. So it is not only because of some technical issues that may +</I>><i> > appear more or less randomly, but also because of the concept of Gnome 3 +</I>><i> > itself. But this is very subjective +</I>><i> yes very +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Before the storm and lightning damage my main computer, I was using +</I>><i> F15 with Gnome 3 +</I>><i> and I like it +</I>><i> +</I>><i> now I have a box under Mageia, and I miss Gnome 3 ;) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> but I like Mageia of course +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Mit freundlichen Grüßen + +Greetings + +Daniel Kreuter +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110607/eddaaa67/attachment.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004586.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4616">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4616">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4616">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4616">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004617.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004617.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dc6fb809b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004617.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimr9tA76qb6uvvgxoZa4iJMCnjxZQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004590.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004593.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimr9tA76qb6uvvgxoZa4iJMCnjxZQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 21:08:36 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004593.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4617">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4617">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4617">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4617">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 6/7/11, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> There is lots of firmware that cannot even be distributed. Of course, we +</I>><i> could do like Canonical and just pretend laws do not exist : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20090423">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20090423</A> , s this clearly annoy +</I>><i> users... +</I>><i> +</I>Here's how I understand the argument. There are three scenarios: +1-Software is licensed to allow distribution. +2-Software license specirfically prohibits distribution. +3-Software license is undetermined. + +So this means that: +1-OK. Distribute if possible per the terms of the license. +2-Software should not be distributed. Interested parties in the +community may work towards a license change if they desire. +3-It's the responsibiltyof the copyright holder to enforce their +rights. Group A says that all such sofware should not be distributed +until license staus can be determined. Group B says to distribute +software until copyright holder complains; no complaint equals implied +permission to distribute. Again, interested parties in the community +may work towards a license change if they desire. + +All those arguments are separate from "just works" for the Mageia +user. The people with solid Linux expertise (such as those that lead +the Mageia community) are aware of license issues for software, are +aware of those hardware devices that are not supported (for various +reasons) under Linux and make their decisions accordingly. They +understand why some hardware doesn't "just work". They check before +they purchase or they write their own software to make teh hardware +work. + +The rest of the universe of Linux users are unaware of such issues or +don't care (not everyone can be RMS). They want Mageia to "just work". +They will blame Mageia, not the hardware manufacturer, not the +software copyright holder, not Linus Torvalds, not Richard Stallman +nor Ubuntu/Canonical/Shuttleworth. + +What makes the situation worse is that Ubuntu blatantly rejects a +"pure", follow-the-license-strictly approach in order to provide their +version of "just works". That makes everybody else look bad and puts +an unjust burden on those who follow a stricter guideline who must +bear the brunt of undeserved criticsm. + +The question is how will Mageia balance the need for "just works" with +the desire to honor copyrights and engage only in legal software +distribution? This is made more complex because those rights and +copyright laws are not equal everywhere in the world. + +I would support a stricter interpretation of the distribution of those +softwares when coupled with improved education of the user. In my +opinion, Canonical is doing the larger community a disservice. + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004593.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4617">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4617">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4617">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4617">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004618.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004618.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1c7b4377e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004618.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Themes%20%26%20Icons&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE7839.4020506%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004614.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004620.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons</H1> + <B>Kristoffer Grundström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Themes%20%26%20Icons&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEE7839.4020506%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 21:12:57 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4618">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4618">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4618">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4618">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>When are "we" going to be able to drag-and drop to install new themes & +icons again? + +This should be possible to do now since WE run the community & not the +companies. + +I miss having the possibility to drag and drop a theme to switch to +another GDM-theme. + +/Kristoffer +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4618">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4618">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4618">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4618">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004619.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004619.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cb39bef2f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004619.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikbTFuP0L9OZB8cjJkcMs%3D4Sy%2B3%2BQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004588.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004589.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Forum%20or%20mailing%20list&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikbTFuP0L9OZB8cjJkcMs%3D4Sy%2B3%2BQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 21:39:27 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004589.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? 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If anyone wants to help => go and see within the +</I>><i> webteam! +</I> +Hmm, no need to patch anything. Google search works in mandrivauser.de +without any extra configuration or module. +For a test go to <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum:">http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum:</A> + + - You will see a search field in the right hand upper corner +"Googlesuche im Forum" + - Fill in a search wort (ex: "DVB-T") and hit Enter. + - Look at the URLs of the search results. + +For the example with "DVB-T" the first search result link is: +<A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=24363">http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=24363</A> + +It works out of the box with phpbb3 (provided you did not add some +script that blocks Google scanning the forum!). + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004589.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4619">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4619">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4619">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4619">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004620.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004620.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1e1c9bc01 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004620.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Themes%20%26%20Icons&In-Reply-To=%3C1307478187.27877.148.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004618.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004621.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Themes%20%26%20Icons&In-Reply-To=%3C1307478187.27877.148.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 22:23:07 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4620">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4620">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4620">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4620">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 07 juin 2011 à 21:12 +0200, Kristoffer Grundström a écrit : +><i> When are "we" going to be able to drag-and drop to install new themes & +</I>><i> icons again? +</I> +on what ? + +><i> This should be possible to do now since WE run the community & not the +</I>><i> companies. +</I> +What does it to do with the problem ? + +><i> I miss having the possibility to drag and drop a theme to switch to +</I>><i> another GDM-theme. +</I> +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4620">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4620">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4620">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4620">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004621.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004621.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7602611f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/004621.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Themes%20%26%20Icons&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTinJ7gzy9WM6MC_%3DwQ2D36gW7XJa1Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004620.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Themes%20%26%20Icons&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTinJ7gzy9WM6MC_%3DwQ2D36gW7XJa1Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jun 7 22:23:57 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4621">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4621">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4621">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4621">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/7 Kristoffer Grundström <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> When are "we" going to be able to drag-and drop to install new themes & +</I>><i> icons again? +</I> +What do you mean by that? Drag what from where to where? + +><i> This should be possible to do now since WE run the community & not the +</I>><i> companies. +</I> +Yes, you are quite right. So go ahead and implement it, no problem. +Nobody stands in your way. + +But now, in earnest: +When you say that "We run the community", what does it mean to you? +Who do you send your requests, such as this one, to, when it is you +yourself (as part of the "WE") who runs the community? + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4621">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4621">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4621">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4621">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f8bf507da --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,257 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 7 June 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>7 June 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Jun 7 10:00:33 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Jun 7 22:23:57 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 42<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004581.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4581"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4583"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4619"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4621"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4617"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4592"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4618"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4616"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004587.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4587"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4604"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4608"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4591"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004594.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? 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+</A><A NAME="4589"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4590"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4591"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4592"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004594.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4594"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004593.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A><A NAME="4593"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4595"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004596.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4596"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004597.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A><A NAME="4597"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4598"> </A> +<I>姚智偉 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004599.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4599"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4600"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004601.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A><A NAME="4601"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4602"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004603.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4603"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4604"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004605.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4605"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4606"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004607.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4607"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4608"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4609"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4610"> </A> +<I>Jim Whitby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4611"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4612"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4613"> </A> +<I>philippe makowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4614"> </A> +<I>Jim Whitby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004615.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4615"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4616"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4617"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4618"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4619"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4620"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4621"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Tue Jun 7 22:23:57 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Jun 7 22:24:04 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110607/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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<b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Jun 7 22:23:57 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 42<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004586.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4586"> </A> +<I>Moritz Wilhelmy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004587.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4587"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4588"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4619"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004580.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4580"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004581.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4581"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4582"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4583"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4584"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4585"> </A> +<I>Moritz Wilhelmy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4591"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4592"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4598"> </A> +<I>姚智偉 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4604"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4606"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004607.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4607"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4608"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4609"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4613"> </A> +<I>philippe makowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4616"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4590"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4617"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4610"> </A> +<I>Jim Whitby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4611"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4612"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4614"> </A> +<I>Jim Whitby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004593.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A><A NAME="4593"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004597.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A><A NAME="4597"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004601.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A><A NAME="4601"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4618"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4620"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4621"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4595"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4600"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4602"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004605.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4605"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004589.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4589"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004594.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4594"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004596.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4596"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004599.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4599"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004603.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4603"> </A> 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Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4581"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307433633-01307435622-01307437049- --> +<LI><A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4582"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307433633-01307435622-01307437049-01307437691- --> +<LI><A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4583"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01307433633-01307435622-01307437049-01307437691-01307446233- --> +<LI><A HREF="004592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4592"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01307433633-01307435622-01307438481- --> +<LI><A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4584"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<!--2 01307433633-01307435622-01307438538- --> +<LI><A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4585"> </A> +<I>Moritz Wilhelmy +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307433633-01307435622-01307438538-01307443967- --> +<LI><A HREF="004591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4591"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01307433633-01307450579- --> +<LI><A HREF="004598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4598"> </A> +<I>姚智偉 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307433633-01307450579-01307455954- --> +<LI><A HREF="004606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4606"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01307433633-01307455228- --> +<LI><A HREF="004604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4604"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307433633-01307455228-01307457413- --> +<LI><A HREF="004607.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4607"> </A> +<I>Olav Vitters +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307433633-01307455228-01307457413-01307459430- --> +<LI><A HREF="004608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4608"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<!--3 01307433633-01307455228-01307457413-01307459430-01307460113- --> +<LI><A HREF="004609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4609"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01307433633-01307455228-01307457413-01307459430-01307467105- --> +<LI><A HREF="004613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4613"> </A> +<I>philippe makowski +</I> + +<!--3 01307433633-01307455228-01307457413-01307459430-01307467105-01307470207- --> +<LI><A HREF="004616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4616"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307439333- --> +<LI><A HREF="004586.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4586"> </A> +<I>Moritz Wilhelmy +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307439333-01307439924- --> +<LI><A HREF="004587.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4587"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307439333-01307439924-01307440340- --> +<LI><A HREF="004588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4588"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307439333-01307439924-01307440340-01307475567- --> +<LI><A HREF="004619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list +</A><A NAME="4619"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307441340- --> +<LI><A HREF="004589.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4589"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307441340-01307446732- --> +<LI><A HREF="004594.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4594"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307441340-01307446732-01307448438- --> +<LI><A HREF="004596.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4596"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307441340-01307446732-01307448438-01307451651- --> +<LI><A HREF="004599.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4599"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--3 01307441340-01307446732-01307448438-01307451651-01307455044- --> +<LI><A HREF="004603.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4603"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01307441340-01307446732-01307448438-01307451651-01307455044-01307469913- --> +<LI><A HREF="004615.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4615"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307442843- --> +<LI><A HREF="004590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4590"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307442843-01307473716- --> +<LI><A HREF="004617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4617"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01307446885- --> +<LI><A HREF="004593.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A><A NAME="4593"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307446885-01307448976- --> +<LI><A HREF="004597.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A><A NAME="4597"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307446885-01307448976-01307453880- --> +<LI><A HREF="004601.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia? +</A><A NAME="4601"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307447455- --> +<LI><A HREF="004595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4595"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307447455-01307452291- --> +<LI><A HREF="004600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4600"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307447455-01307452291-01307453891- --> +<LI><A HREF="004602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4602"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307447455-01307452291-01307453891-01307455762- --> +<LI><A HREF="004605.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4605"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307461857- --> +<LI><A HREF="004610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4610"> </A> +<I>Jim Whitby +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307461857-01307463253- --> +<LI><A HREF="004611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4611"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307461857-01307463253-01307463419- --> +<LI><A HREF="004612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4612"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307461857-01307463253-01307463419-01307469723- --> +<LI><A HREF="004614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Missing lib for acroread +</A><A NAME="4614"> </A> +<I>Jim Whitby +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307473977- --> +<LI><A HREF="004618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4618"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307473977-01307478187- --> +<LI><A HREF="004620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4620"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--1 01307473977-01307478237- --> +<LI><A HREF="004621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Themes & Icons +</A><A NAME="4621"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Tue Jun 7 22:23:57 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Jun 7 22:24:04 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |