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+ <B>lebarhon</B>
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+ <I>Sun Dec 19 10:41:02 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le 19/12/2010 02:29, Michael scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> And the fact is that you are expressing exactly the sterotype that I
+</I>&gt;<i> think we should
+</I>&gt;<i> avoid because it would hurt our reputation, ie seeing us mainly as &quot;Mandriva users&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> despites having no data, that's just a supposition ( likely true, but yet
+</I>&gt;<i> unproven ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we start to act this way and see ourselves as Mandriva users, then others people
+</I>&gt;<i> outside of the community will see us like this too. And when we will start to speak
+</I>&gt;<i> of Mageia, they will only remember &quot;oh, but they are mandriva users&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Because the image you have of your community is the one you send to others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if we want to be seen as something else than Mandriva users, if we really want
+</I>&gt;<i> our independance, we need to act accordingly. And the sooner we start, the sooner
+</I>&gt;<i> it will have a impact, and so the better it is.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You know, changes mind take time.
+</I>&gt;<i> People still talk to me of mandrake, 5 years after the distribution changed
+</I>&gt;<i> name. So if we want to be seen as different, I see no reason to not start now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And we need to be seen as different, because we need to overcome Mandriva bad
+</I>&gt;<i> reputation ( like this update, for example, or the general bad mood due
+</I>&gt;<i> to various budget cut etc ). The question is not if the reputation is deserved
+</I>&gt;<i> or not ( because I think it is not, at least not for everything ). But the
+</I>&gt;<i> fact is it exist, and that I think we want to avoid it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Unfortunately, everyone can still see the same names/nicknames on
+Mandriva ML and Mageia ML, and everywhere, long after Mageia birth . So
+it seems that your wishes don't fit with reality.
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