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<B>lebarhon</B>
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<I>Sun Dec 19 10:41:02 CET 2010</I>
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<PRE>Le 19/12/2010 02:29, Michael scherer a écrit :
><i> And the fact is that you are expressing exactly the sterotype that I
</I>><i> think we should
</I>><i> avoid because it would hurt our reputation, ie seeing us mainly as "Mandriva users"
</I>><i> despites having no data, that's just a supposition ( likely true, but yet
</I>><i> unproven ).
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</I>><i> If we start to act this way and see ourselves as Mandriva users, then others people
</I>><i> outside of the community will see us like this too. And when we will start to speak
</I>><i> of Mageia, they will only remember "oh, but they are mandriva users".
</I>><i> Because the image you have of your community is the one you send to others.
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</I>><i> So if we want to be seen as something else than Mandriva users, if we really want
</I>><i> our independance, we need to act accordingly. And the sooner we start, the sooner
</I>><i> it will have a impact, and so the better it is.
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</I>><i> You know, changes mind take time.
</I>><i> People still talk to me of mandrake, 5 years after the distribution changed
</I>><i> name. So if we want to be seen as different, I see no reason to not start now.
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</I>><i> And we need to be seen as different, because we need to overcome Mandriva bad
</I>><i> reputation ( like this update, for example, or the general bad mood due
</I>><i> to various budget cut etc ). The question is not if the reputation is deserved
</I>><i> or not ( because I think it is not, at least not for everything ). But the
</I>><i> fact is it exist, and that I think we want to avoid it.
</I>><i>
</I>Unfortunately, everyone can still see the same names/nicknames on
Mandriva ML and Mageia ML, and everywhere, long after Mageia birth . So
it seems that your wishes don't fit with reality.
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