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+ <B>Hoyt Duff</B>
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+ <I>Thu Dec 9 00:55:30 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this comment demonstrate that you do not really realize the work
+</I>&gt;<i> that we are already doing all day long, and how much we already invest
+</I>&gt;<i> on our free time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Of course I don't realize that, and how could I possibly know the
+extent of your participation? And why should it matter for this
+discussion?
+
+&gt;<i> If the goal is to make sure that none of those that already give their
+</I>&gt;<i> time can sleep because they are more overworked, then no longer count me
+</I>&gt;<i> in.
+</I>
+I would hope that is not the goal; it is not my goal. If you are
+overburdened and need help, you should ask for help: there is a
+community out here.
+
+The goal in this discussion, as I understand it, is to post-mortem the
+process to see if it can be improved.
+
+Romain, although not obligated to do so, provided a reflective
+response to my comments that made me feel valued as a member of the
+community and I thank him for it.
+
+You, however, feel somehow offended and defensive at my participation.
+That approach generally fails to foster wider community participation
+over time and inhibits the free exchange of ideas.
+
+A wise man once taught me that there are some things you should never
+say when you have asked for ideas or advice.
+
+&quot;We don't do it that way here.&quot;
+&quot;You just don't understand what is involved.&quot;
+&quot;You should be kissing my ass in appreciation.&quot;
+and
+&quot;That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.&quot;
+
+--
+Hoyt
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