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by the time we hit our second release, we will have a +</I>>>><i> for +</I>>>><i> sure stable version of it. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> I've been following RPM5 (and the associated urpm4) on cooker for a while +</I>>><i> now ... +</I>>><i> All 3 stories come from the person integrating rpm5 into Mandriva - he was +</I>>><i> recently hired to do just that, with full support of management. +</I>>><i> To me it looks like rpm5 itself won't be the big problem - rather changing +</I>>><i> the urpmi tools and adapting the build system to work with it. +</I>>><i> Not sure which way Mageia should go at first, but the newer versions of +</I>>><i> their tools will be based on rpm5. +</I>>><i> It was interesting how cooker wasn't warned of the changes - suddenly many +</I>>><i> developers were left unable to do any anything, until Per fixed the bugs he +</I>>><i> created.  And then they learned about the planned switch. +</I>>><i> A perfect example of how NOT to do things :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It is good that Per is open to cooperation - his experiences will be a big +</I>>><i> asset when we do follow suit - which I expect we will, sooner or later. +</I>>><i> Maarten, have you taken a close look at it ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At the start we should use RPM4 because it is proven to be stable. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let's wait until RPM5 will be stable in Mandriva and after that we can move +</I>><i> to RPM5 +</I>><i> +</I> +I do agree and Mageia has already a release roadmap to follow and I +believe there`s no time left for a rpm5 turn. + + +-- +Leandro Dorileo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003159.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003167.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3166">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3166">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3166">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3166">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |