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It won't always work, but that can be a first step, to experiment with. +</I>><i> > - task meta-packages can be another solution +</I>><i> > - we may have a look at what a package provides and group together packages whose names are close and which provide the same thing (eg. all packages which provide "openoffice.org-l10n" grouped together) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Excellent points. Which gives me an idea how to accomplish folding, +</I>><i> without changing the internals of the rpms : +</I>><i> First, note that very few if any package names contain ":". +</I>><i> So to fold packages associated with package "foo", on the line of "foo", +</I>><i> we could name the associated packages "foo:suba", "foo:subb", etc, +</I>><i> beginning with the name of the primary package + ":". +</I>><i> To fold associated packages on a subsequent line (as would be useful for +</I>><i> localisation packages, for example), we would create a meta-package +</I>><i> "foo:subc". Seeing that it is a meta package, the packages under it +</I>><i> would be folded into a line *under* "foo". And expanding the +</I>><i> meta-package line would show all contained packages. +</I>><i> Other meta packages (without ":" in the name) would be similarly +</I>><i> expandable. The only difference being that they would not be associated +</I>><i> with another group of packages. +</I>><i> This approach has the advantage of leaving the internals of rpm +</I>><i> unchanged for this purpose. +</I>><i> One just adds ":" to the name of associated packages, and creates some +</I>><i> grouping meta-packages. +</I>><i> Actually I'm assuming that there is a means of readily identifying a +</I>><i> meta-package other than "task" in the name. Correct me if I'm wrong. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another advantage is it lets users more readily see the packages +</I>><i> contained in a meta-package. And in installing, potentially allows +</I>><i> deselecting a package contained in a meta-package to be installed. +</I>><i> (Yes, I know, a meta-package only refers to other packages, not +</I>><i> containing them.) +</I> +I've got some difficulty to visualize the packages hierarchy in this proposal. Can you give an example ? + +However I'd rather experiment first approaches based on existing data, like src.rpm, provides, existing package names and maybe creating some meta-packages if needed, and only if this fails envision something with a broader impact. + +><i> > Another problem you mentioned is how to define what an "application" is. We could use some help on this subject too :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> That is definitely tricky. It should probably be more than just GUI. +</I>><i> It might be simpler to just rely on folding ? (What is specifically +</I>><i> folded with what will be ultimately decided by the packager.) +</I> +At the very least we have to put apart libs, locales... + +><i> > You can have a look at this wiki page (on our new Redmine project, thanks to Jehane for setting it up) which is dedicated to this matter : <A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Applications">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Applications</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> So I imagine my thoughts go under "crazy ideas" ? ;) +</I>><i> (I like how the wiki page is set up.) +</I> +There's already a page for package folding, linked from the Applications wiki page : <A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/GroupSimilarPackages">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/GroupSimilarPackages</A> +You can put everything there I think. + +Samuel + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003030.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3031">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3031">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3031">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3031">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |