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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003029.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003029.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ff6ca168d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003029.html @@ -0,0 +1,171 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Introducing%20mageia-app-db&In-Reply-To=%3C4CE4C5B5.40200%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003031.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Introducing%20mageia-app-db&In-Reply-To=%3C4CE4C5B5.40200%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Nov 18 07:20:37 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3029">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3029">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3029">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3029">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +><i> Le mardi 9 novembre 2010 05:57:36, andre999 a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Le vendredi 5 novembre 2010 06:38:14, andre999 a écrit : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> As far as the question of application/package view goes, folding entries +</I>>>>><i> (as in Rpmdrake groups or Nautilus) which expands to multi-line would be +</I>>>>><i> nice. +</I>>>>><i> That way complex packages like Openoffice or Firefox could be folded +</I>>>>><i> into 2 or 3 lines. +</I>>>>><i> (1 for localisation, another possibly for optional modules, another for +</I>>>>><i> core modules.) +</I>>>>><i> Now Firefox is more than 100 packages. +</I>>>>><i> This sort of suggestion has been made for Rpmdrake. +</I>>>>><i> The advantage of this approach is that the minimised view could be the +</I>>>>><i> default, and at any time it can be expanded to show all packages, +</I>>>>><i> without any configuration settings. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I'm not against, however how can we define those groups ? Is there a way to automate it ? Is it necessary to define it manually (and so to maintain it so have maintainers of these groups definitions) ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> First of all, the idea is to continue to use Mandriva-like categories +</I>>><i> for the packages, as in Rpmdrake. So we associate packages within these +</I>>><i> larger categories. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The basic idea is to establish a hierarchy of views for multi-package +</I>>><i> applications. +</I>>><i> These associations should be designated according to guidelines, which +</I>>><i> are yet to be established, according to the best judgement of the packager. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Otherwise I don't see how we can arrive at consistant and useful +</I>>><i> associations, especially if being used by different applications, like +</I>>><i> Rpmdrake and your (very interesting and useful) project. It is +</I>>><i> important that such applications are able to discern these associations, +</I>>><i> in order to display them. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> First it will be useful to look at the different types of associations : +</I>>><i> 1) Where usually all of the associated packages would be installed, such +</I>>><i> as core packages of OpenOffice or Go-oo or LibreOffice. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 2) Where usually only one - or a few - of the associated packages would +</I>>><i> be installed, such as localisations. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 3) Something in between, such as optional extensions for Firefox +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I read your whole post (had to come back 2 times to manage to finish it ! :)). +</I>Hope that's good :) +><i> Some comments : +</I>><i> - using a new tag to group packages together may be a solution for packages which have many optional subpackages, however this means we must reach a consensus among packagers. A complete proposal which have been tested on most of the examples you brought in your post could maybe help convincing other packagers. Adding a new tag is not a trivial move and maybe could break some compatibilty with other distributions, so I think it must be "proved" that it is the best solution (if it is). +</I>><i> +</I>I understand. + +><i> - another simple way could be to group by source rpm. It won't always work, but that can be a first step, to experiment with. +</I>><i> - task meta-packages can be another solution +</I>><i> - we may have a look at what a package provides and group together packages whose names are close and which provide the same thing (eg. all packages which provide "openoffice.org-l10n" grouped together) +</I>><i> +</I>Excellent points. Which gives me an idea how to accomplish folding, +without changing the internals of the rpms : +First, note that very few if any package names contain ":". +So to fold packages associated with package "foo", on the line of "foo", +we could name the associated packages "foo:suba", "foo:subb", etc, +beginning with the name of the primary package + ":". +To fold associated packages on a subsequent line (as would be useful for +localisation packages, for example), we would create a meta-package +"foo:subc". Seeing that it is a meta package, the packages under it +would be folded into a line *under* "foo". And expanding the +meta-package line would show all contained packages. +Other meta packages (without ":" in the name) would be similarly +expandable. The only difference being that they would not be associated +with another group of packages. +This approach has the advantage of leaving the internals of rpm +unchanged for this purpose. +One just adds ":" to the name of associated packages, and creates some +grouping meta-packages. +Actually I'm assuming that there is a means of readily identifying a +meta-package other than "task" in the name. Correct me if I'm wrong. + +Another advantage is it lets users more readily see the packages +contained in a meta-package. And in installing, potentially allows +deselecting a package contained in a meta-package to be installed. +(Yes, I know, a meta-package only refers to other packages, not +containing them.) + +Of course it still needs consensus by the packagers - but it is a lot +easier to implement, and probably more reliable as well. + +><i> - it would be interesting to look at other distributions, to see how they solved or tried to solve this problem. How does ubuntu in its package manager for example ? +</I>><i> +</I>Good idea. Good to look at Suse as well, as they have made a number of +enhancements to rpm. +><i> If you have some free time and motivation, while we're waiting for the build system, you could maybe help us define how to show packages to users in mageia-app-db. If we can define a robust algorithm for package grouping, we'll try to implement it. +</I>><i> +</I>I think we are getting closer. I'll give this priority. +><i> Another problem you mentioned is how to define what an "application" is. We could use some help on this subject too :) +</I>><i> +</I>That is definitely tricky. It should probably be more than just GUI. +It might be simpler to just rely on folding ? (What is specifically +folded with what will be ultimately decided by the packager.) +><i> You can have a look at this wiki page (on our new Redmine project, thanks to Jehane for setting it up) which is dedicated to this matter : <A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Applications">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Applications</A> +</I>><i> +</I>So I imagine my thoughts go under "crazy ideas" ? ;) +(I like how the wiki page is set up.) + +BTW, I really appreciate your comments. Makes me think :) + +If anyone has any ideas relating to this, don't hesitate to comment ... +><i> Regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I> +- André +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3029">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3029">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3029">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3029">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003030.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003030.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..34b15e4a0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003030.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Logo%20proposals%20discussion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D%2BeoHwWOH5_QhfWzoXG6%3DVN3pbtrgwfVoH0n-t%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003031.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003032.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Logo%20proposals%20discussion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D%2BeoHwWOH5_QhfWzoXG6%3DVN3pbtrgwfVoH0n-t%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Nov 18 10:22:21 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3030">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3030">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3030">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3030">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi everyone, + +so, logo proposals deadline was past week, Monday Nov. 9th. Proposals +were sent to <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/</A> (you may +need to be logged in Flickr to actually see all proposals). + +First, on behalf of the board, let me thank all artists who invested +in this and published a proposal. 113 posters, for 429 posts. There +have been lots of different ideas, some matching the guidelines +(<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide#logo_design_guidelines">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide#logo_design_guidelines</A>), +some not matching. So again, thank you to all, a lot, for your ideas +and your work. + +So here comes the selection process, as finalized with the founding +board and discussed with marketing and artwork teams. + 1. a first short list of proposals is made, with a set of somehow +objective criterias; it's always hard to do; + 2. public discussion is open on this list after validation from the +board, for a few days. + 3. a second short-list is made + 4. checking discussion and opinions, the founding board decides on +the logo and gets in touch with the artist to put the legal stuff in +order + 5. selected logo is refined with the artwork team and usage +guidelines are set up + 6. logo is officially publicly announced (we want the final version +of the logo for the official release). + +Then this will lay down the path for logo inclusion into our first +alpha release, and for other artwork-related work (color schemes, +website design). + +Short list criterias, events, are documented here: +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artwork:logo_selection_process">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artwork:logo_selection_process</A> + +Step 1. already occurred: Arnaud (rtp), Damien (dams), Caroline (caro, +invited on our behalf to assist) and me filtered this first short +list, of 77 files: <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/mgared/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/mgared/</A> (why red? +red is the first color of a rainbow - just in case we'd have to make +really several short lists). Criterias used are here: +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artwork:logo_selection_process#first_short_list_red">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artwork:logo_selection_process#first_short_list_red</A> + +Step 2. is the reason of this mail. 77 is still a lot, so we will +reduce (see next step) but nonetheless, we prefer to start the +discussion now. + +Step 3. will happen within the coming days during the discussion; for +this, you may add your criteria proposals to the above wiki page - it +may be used or not. You may list your top 4 favorites (here, by +email). Artists in the short-list may refine (not mandatory, really) +their proposal and mark it with a "mga refined" tag. + +We are Thursday Nov. 18th. That makes the public discussion open until +Wednesday Nov. 24th. Board final selection will be done in the days +after, and announcement likewise, depending on the progress of +refinements and legal processes. So first week of December, hopefully, +should be decent expectation for step 6. + +As said several times, please note that: + - only the founding board will close the selection and decide which +logo is the one; + - this will not prevent from listening to everyone's point of view on +the short list proposals. + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3030">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3030">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3030">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3030">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003031.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003031.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b0d3dc5ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003031.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Introducing%20mageia-app-db&In-Reply-To=%3C201011181445.07626.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003029.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003030.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Introducing%20mageia-app-db&In-Reply-To=%3C201011181445.07626.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Nov 18 14:45:07 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003030.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3031">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3031">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3031">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3031">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +Le jeudi 18 novembre 2010 07:20:37, andre999 a écrit : +><i> > - another simple way could be to group by source rpm. It won't always work, but that can be a first step, to experiment with. +</I>><i> > - task meta-packages can be another solution +</I>><i> > - we may have a look at what a package provides and group together packages whose names are close and which provide the same thing (eg. all packages which provide "openoffice.org-l10n" grouped together) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Excellent points. Which gives me an idea how to accomplish folding, +</I>><i> without changing the internals of the rpms : +</I>><i> First, note that very few if any package names contain ":". +</I>><i> So to fold packages associated with package "foo", on the line of "foo", +</I>><i> we could name the associated packages "foo:suba", "foo:subb", etc, +</I>><i> beginning with the name of the primary package + ":". +</I>><i> To fold associated packages on a subsequent line (as would be useful for +</I>><i> localisation packages, for example), we would create a meta-package +</I>><i> "foo:subc". Seeing that it is a meta package, the packages under it +</I>><i> would be folded into a line *under* "foo". And expanding the +</I>><i> meta-package line would show all contained packages. +</I>><i> Other meta packages (without ":" in the name) would be similarly +</I>><i> expandable. The only difference being that they would not be associated +</I>><i> with another group of packages. +</I>><i> This approach has the advantage of leaving the internals of rpm +</I>><i> unchanged for this purpose. +</I>><i> One just adds ":" to the name of associated packages, and creates some +</I>><i> grouping meta-packages. +</I>><i> Actually I'm assuming that there is a means of readily identifying a +</I>><i> meta-package other than "task" in the name. Correct me if I'm wrong. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another advantage is it lets users more readily see the packages +</I>><i> contained in a meta-package. And in installing, potentially allows +</I>><i> deselecting a package contained in a meta-package to be installed. +</I>><i> (Yes, I know, a meta-package only refers to other packages, not +</I>><i> containing them.) +</I> +I've got some difficulty to visualize the packages hierarchy in this proposal. Can you give an example ? + +However I'd rather experiment first approaches based on existing data, like src.rpm, provides, existing package names and maybe creating some meta-packages if needed, and only if this fails envision something with a broader impact. + +><i> > Another problem you mentioned is how to define what an "application" is. We could use some help on this subject too :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> That is definitely tricky. It should probably be more than just GUI. +</I>><i> It might be simpler to just rely on folding ? (What is specifically +</I>><i> folded with what will be ultimately decided by the packager.) +</I> +At the very least we have to put apart libs, locales... + +><i> > You can have a look at this wiki page (on our new Redmine project, thanks to Jehane for setting it up) which is dedicated to this matter : <A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Applications">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Applications</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> So I imagine my thoughts go under "crazy ideas" ? ;) +</I>><i> (I like how the wiki page is set up.) +</I> +There's already a page for package folding, linked from the Applications wiki page : <A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/GroupSimilarPackages">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/GroupSimilarPackages</A> +You can put everything there I think. + +Samuel + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003030.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3031">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3031">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3031">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3031">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003032.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003032.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5f6da7a40 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/003032.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Logo%20proposals%20discussion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikQ05-eAZO4C58-_aWzjiT5jBdV9u_kcMjKobdK%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Effectively, it looks likes +a gas distributor's ad +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3033">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3033">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3033">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3033">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8cbd54d25 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101118/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 18 November 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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