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Also for Mozilla, OpenOffice, +</I>>>>><i> etc.) +</I>>>>><i> Note that for much commercial software, updates are normally delta. +</I>>>>><i> Such updates are often erroneously called patches. +</I>>>>><i> This may be partly a limitation of rpm packages, or more the +</I>>>>><i> programs that install/update such packages. If so, it should be a +</I>>>>><i> priority to correct this lack. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> The problem of delta rpm is the work need to generated alls delta and +</I>>>><i> the space need on mirrors to host everything. +</I>>>><i> We must provide delta for each version to the next one: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - main foo-1 +</I>>>><i> - upd foo-2 D: 1->2 +</I>>>><i> foo-3 D: 2->3 and 1->3 ? +</I>>>><i> foo-4 D: 3->4 and 1->4, 2->4 ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> etc... +</I>>>><i> What if delta 1->4 is bigger than the package itself ? and for 2->4 ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As nanar points out delta rpm is a bad design +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> a working concept would have been basing all deltas on a specific rpm +</I>>><i> (i.e. the one in */release) and bundling entire files. in this case a +</I>>><i> patch will grow at most as the original rpm, and you don't care about +</I>>><i> keeping incremental diffs. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> L. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Which is exactly what I was proposing. +</I>><i> Delta by file relative to the official distro release. +</I> +So to update from -1 to -3 I'll download around 300KB but to upgrade +from -2 to -3 I'll download the full rpm so maybe around 20MB (in the +case the rpm is 20MB) ? + +It's a proposal like others... + +I am not sure people having slow connections will enjoy this. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101106/cf589d11/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002936.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2939">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2939">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2939">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2939">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |