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+ <B>Margot</B>
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+ <I>Sat Nov 6 10:08:34 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:35:06 -0400
+Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le 2010-11-05 10:01, Juergen Harms a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 11/05/2010 06:55 AM, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I would make all delta updates relative to the distro release,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; i.e.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - main = foo-1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - upd_full = foo-2, foo-3, foo-4, etc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have a feeling that just distributing snapshots of the update
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; repositories (they are relative the release) is a wise thing to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; start with. That is simple, does not require new software and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is easy to put in place. If Mageia wants to go further, it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; might be a good step to learn from (how much is it used, what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; has a tendency to go wrong, do people have difficutlies ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and base furthers steps upon.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Re risk - updates have a certain risk that an update introduces
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; problems, you cant get away from that, however the packages are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; distributed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; One thought based on dealing with risks and being selective with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; introducing updates: how about adding to a DVD with update
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages also a structure (plain file ?) with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; corresonponding security advisories? This entire discusion is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on making life easy for users with bad connectivity - they
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; might like to avoid fetching advisories over the net also.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But I really think that some learning is necessary. How many
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; users will need such a facility? how much investment is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; justified in creating the facility?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it's more of how much have people become accustomed to
+</I>&gt;<i> having their dial-up connections tied up for hours for an ISO
+</I>&gt;<i> download and then updates.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am on two projects, Mageia and LibreOffice, and on both I have
+</I>&gt;<i> read from people who were hoping to be heard that they only have
+</I>&gt;<i> dial-up and could this please be considered. I think that dial-up
+</I>&gt;<i> connections are more prevalent than we think. We &quot;high speed&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> internet users seem to lose sight that some of our market targets
+</I>&gt;<i> are dial-up service members.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if they would use any of these services. They may
+</I>&gt;<i> have become so accustomed to tying up their phone lines for long
+</I>&gt;<i> periods of time, that they may not even care any more even if
+</I>&gt;<i> Community services were available. It may mean a matter of their
+</I>&gt;<i> local Mageia Community advertising the fact that these service
+</I>&gt;<i> are available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It's not just dial-up - many people in the UK only have mobile
+broadband, which is very expensive if you exceed the minimal
+bandwidth allowance (for some contracts, only 1GB a month). For some
+of those people, downloading a DVD-sized ISO would be impossible.
+
+--
+Margot
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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