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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op dinsdag 02 november 2010 12:23:08 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2010/11/2 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; last meeting i read agreed on april
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, sorry.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; imo, there's way too much to be done to have anything stable; and if we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; go this route, i can predict that our release will not be stable enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I am neither a developper nor a packager. If the leading people
+</I>&gt;<i> who are either experienced Mandriva developpers or packagers or
+</I>&gt;<i> experienced release project leaders tell me they see April as a
+</I>&gt;<i> realistic time of release I do believe them.
+</I>
+i'm a newbie packager.
+
+&gt;<i> The basis is the current cooker. What makes you believe that the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia people will not be able to achieve what Mandriva has announced
+</I>&gt;<i> to do? Mandriva announced to release end of Q1 / beginning of Q2 2011.
+</I>&gt;<i> Both have the same starting point.
+</I>
+i don't really want to base myself of what Mandriva will do:
+ - there is a big amount of bugs that are just sitting there
+ - how many devs do they have?
+ - they can always postpone or bring an unstable release (there have been
+unstable releases in the past)
+ - i thought the QA team was almost empty?
+
+
+The reason for this question of myself is that (as a non-cooker user), i find
+the current cooker really really unstable and unfit for release (duh).
+
+however the amount of work there is to be done to make it somewhat stable; and
+then again the amount of work there is to be done to make it well-tested and
+the amount of work for all the contribs and unmaintained packages...
+
+don't forget that if RPM is upgraded; we will have alot of work to be done to
+get everything working properly.
+
+and even then all our contributors will have to be taught as well...
+
+
+This question is like a reminder that there is a huge amount of work, and
+contributors aren't up to speed. and we're not ready for work yet? BS needs to
+be finalized. the teams aren't elected yet, there is still lots of wiki and
+docs to be done...
+
+personally, i just don't see it feasable in that timeframe.
+
+Kind Regards,
+
+Maarten
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