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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002707.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002707.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d269e81d3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002707.html @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC8B90A.6010708%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002711.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO</H1> + <B>Kristoffer Grundström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions%20for%20the%20ISO&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC8B90A.6010708%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 28 01:43:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002711.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2707">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2707">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2707">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2707">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101028/2234f8e1/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002711.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2707">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2707">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2707">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2707">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002708.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002708.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f19d13c4f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002708.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] what aabout an automated way of doing it? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20what%20aabout%20an%20automated%20way%20of%20doing%20it%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC8BA6C.3030509%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002711.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002709.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] what aabout an automated way of doing it?</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20what%20aabout%20an%20automated%20way%20of%20doing%20it%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC8BA6C.3030509%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] what aabout an automated way of doing it?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 28 01:49:00 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002711.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002709.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 133 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2708">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2708">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2708">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2708">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Dj Marian a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I´m new around, but could the program be made to be aware when someone +</I>><i> searches for a specific thing? +</I>><i> If i search vlc, it would be for sure that i want the player... and if +</I>><i> i want a lib thing i write the name and it should be recognized that i +</I>><i> need a lib and not a program with ´lib´ in it´s name. +</I>><i> Also if i actually search for a program with ´lib´ in the name, a +</I>><i> button should auto appear to show less results ( meaning just +</I>><i> GUI´s)... and if i want vlc lib´s, a button with show more results... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ´lib´ and´vlc´ are just for the sake of simplicity +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I hope i´m not annoying, +</I>><i> Dan. +</I> +Not at all annoying. Asking questions is a good way to learn. + +First of all, Rpmdrake (the graphic installer under Mandriva and +initially under Mageia), has a search field at top right. +You can search by package name (the default), description, summary, or +name of a fichier installed by the package. A match occurs if the +search text occurs anywhere in the field being searched. +If searching names for "vlc", for example, all packages with "vlc" +anywhere in the name will be listed. +Similarly if you want to list packages with "lib" in the name. +Note that most libraries do NOT contain "lib" in the name. Libraries +are generally, but not always, found in the system/library/ group. +Rpmdrake does list dependancies (including libraries) not already +installed under the package name, as "new dependancies". This would be +probably all you need. +To list all dependancies (including those already installed), you can +use the command-line "urpmq --requires {package-name}". + +Note that only packages in currently active repositories are listed. +(Actually, sometimes packages in previously active repositories are also +listed, but that's a bug.) +So you have to be careful to ensure that the repositories of interest +are active. +(Which is another question, which I could explain if you wish.) + +Just out of curiosity, you have what sort of Linux or other background ? +(That info will help others help you.) +Don't be afraid to ask more questions. It's a sign of intelligence :) + +- André + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002711.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002709.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 133 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2708">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2708">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2708">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2708">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002709.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002709.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..517364617 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002709.html @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 133 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20133&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin%3DFAN4GP2S73gh%3DcVJCEoGOJ5LmiU6%2BYSJxHj7%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002708.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002710.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 133</H1> + <B>Michael Carter</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%202%2C%20Issue%20133&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin%3DFAN4GP2S73gh%3DcVJCEoGOJ5LmiU6%2BYSJxHj7%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 133">mikecar52 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 28 01:49:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002708.html">[Mageia-discuss] what aabout an automated way of doing it? 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Have packages pass "description QA" reading, done by non-technical +</I>>>><i> users (if implemented, easy with packages that are new or underwent a +</I>>>><i> major new release, how also catch packages that just "are around")? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 2. As an alternative to direct mail to developpers, create some kind +</I>>>><i> of "fast-track" mailbox - rules to be defined - with a triage team to +</I>>>><i> make the link to the developpers (maybe not even with developpers, but +</I>>>><i> with "writers")? - would also allow to keep track of what is going on, +</I>>>><i> and serve as a "filter". +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 3. I suggest to separate the question of translation and of the +</I>>>><i> quality of descriptions - they have different priorities and +</I>>>><i> implications. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Normally translation is made on the current source text, and often in +</I>>><i> real time. That is, as soon as a change is made in the text, it is +</I>>><i> immediately available for translation. This process is used by +</I>>><i> Openoffice and Mozilla (Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird), for example, +</I>>><i> So for package description, as soon as any description (or change) is +</I>>><i> posted, it would be immediately available for translation, by the +</I>>><i> various localisation groups. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So would this be possible to do with Mageia? We should be able to +</I>><i> manage this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I> +I and others have already suggested this in various posts, and I sure +hope that we implement this. It is very doable. + +Since Mozilla started it, it has dramatically improved the completeness +of French translations, in which I was involved, even though many +translators at first complained about having to react in real time. +Virtually all localisations - except EN-US :) - showed significant +improvements in completeness, a number reaching 100%. A rare feat before. + +The new LibreOffice is using this method, as was done under OpenOffice. +Because of restrictions by Sun (continued by Oracle), LibreOffice has to +redo all the translations. +A big job, but this method really helps. Sun insisted that all +contributors had to submit a hard-copy signed contract to assign their +copyright to Sun, which severely limited contributions, including my own. +LibreOffice is initially using about the same organisation, but no +copyright assignment. +Interestingly, much like Mageia, LibreOffice has attracted most of the +key contributors. But surprisingly, Oracle is insisting that +contributors decide : OpenOffice or LibreOffice, but not both. Note +that most of the development work on OpenOffice has been done by +contributors paid by Sun/Oracle, unlike the situation with Mandriva. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002710.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 2, Issue 133 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002716.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2712">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2712">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2712">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2712">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002713.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002713.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1ca95bac9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002713.html @@ -0,0 +1,176 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC8CE55.3060502%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002717.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002714.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC8CE55.3060502%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 28 03:13:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002714.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2713">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2713">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2713">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2713">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Frank Griffin a écrit : +><i> Michael Scherer wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> To the defense of the drakx developpers, I do not think that choosing in +</I>>><i> the installer is really a so good idea : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> - during installation, you do not have web access. Thus, you will have a +</I>>><i> hardtime to really find information on what does a software. If you use +</I>>><i> rpmdrake, you can ask to friend, ask on forum, ask on a search engine. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> This is really a more general issue of the availability of detailed help +</I>><i> during the install. +</I>One of the strengths of Ubuntu. (Of course having paid documenters helps.) + +><i> To focus on package descriptions, which really +</I>><i> *are* of interest only to more advanced users (very few newbies know +</I>><i> enough about Linux to care about minimalist installs), completely misses +</I>><i> the point that there is a lot of other information about what's going on +</I>><i> in the install that *would* be of interest to newbies. +</I>><i> +</I>It depends what you put in the package descriptions. Something like +"You really should install this" is totally meaningless to almost everyone. +A good description is not necessarily highly technical. It is really +the application packages that a newbie would want to select, +dependancies will be automatically selected, as in now the case. If a +summary description is clear, that could be sufficient. +But I tend to think that a full description should be used for +application packages. + +><i> The issue, as always, is competition for space or bandwidth between help +</I>><i> and program content. If you access it through the network, people +</I>><i> without network access won't get it. If you put it on the media, it +</I>><i> redices the space available for programs. +</I>><i> +</I>Why not have "one" ISOs on "small" DVDs ? +Say 1G, 1,5G instead of 4,7G +We don't have to insist on CDs. +Maybe call them "one plus" ISOs ? + +><i> This is why I think that such help, package descriptions, etc., should +</I>><i> be separate from the rpms. In the past (and maybe still, as I haven't +</I>><i> done a from-media install for a while), the install asked the user if he +</I>><i> had additional media to use. +</I>Addition media is still asked. + +><i> A slight expansion of this could ask how +</I>><i> many CDs/DVDs the user has available and whether the network will be +</I>><i> available (or should be activated) in order to access additional +</I>><i> packages and help content. +</I>><i> +</I>Network is always asked. +Unless the user has a fast connexion, help over the network would be a pain. +Even on a medium-speed connexion, 10x as fast as dialup. +Much better to download a DVD (or CDs). Then the actual installation +process will be much faster. +Of course downloading the occasional file would not be problematic. + +><i> For the install media, we should go back to the arrangement we had in +</I>><i> the multi-CD days. Cooker required something like 9 CDs for everything, +</I>><i> but the essentials were placed on the first CD, and content was arranged +</I>><i> on the others by type. The "standard " install used 2 or 3 CDs, and the +</I>><i> install basically tailored itself to the number of CDs available. +</I>><i> +</I>Multiple CDs has been replaced by DVDs. Much faster for the same amount +of data. +No swapping. And much more reliable. +A DVD is 7.2 650M CDs, or 6.7 700M CDs. +Of course the user would have to have a DVD writer to create one. +But most computers would be able to read one. +It might be a good idea to ship DVDs for a nominal fee. +We could even try to arrange shipping locally, for minimal costs. + +><i> In the same spirit, we could have a set of package-related ISOs, and one +</I>><i> or more documentation ISOs. If a non-network user wants extended help +</I>><i> and package descriptions in translated format, he obtains these ISOs. +</I>><i> If not, he doesn't. At the start of the install, the user gets a prompt +</I>><i> with checkboxes for each of the possible ISOs, and can indicate which +</I>><i> are available. For any that aren't, the install doesn't even try to use +</I>><i> what's on them. If the install detects enough available unused disk +</I>><i> space, then the first use of any ISO can copy some or all of the ISO to +</I>><i> hard disk for the duration of the install. Any prompt for an ISO has a +</I>><i> way for the user to say he really doesn't have that one, in which case +</I>><i> it is not prompted for again. All this should minimize the amount of +</I>><i> disk-swapping. +</I>><i> +</I>Lots of disks, but minimal disk-swapping ? +Why not a single DVD, and no disk-swapping ? +><i> That answers the objections of those who don't want to have to download +</I>><i> many ISOs to do an install, and also addresses the needs of non-network +</I>><i> users (e.g. small schools) who want a full-featured set of install media +</I>><i> that can be reused repeatedly for friendly installs without network +</I>><i> access. It also minimizes disk-swapping, unless the system is really +</I>><i> tight on space, in which case the install is at least still possible, +</I>><i> albeit with some disk swapping (assuming the user wants to use multiple +</I>><i> ISOs). +</I>><i> +</I>Note that schools would generally have the bandwidth to download a DVD. +So little or no need for disk swapping. + +The problem with all this is it makes things more complicated. For +Mageia. For new users. But maybe not so much for experienced users +with a large bandwidth. But are these the users we are addressing ? + +><i> As always, network users could opt to download dynamically anything they +</I>><i> didn't have ISO media for, with the same provision for caching, if space +</I>><i> allowed. +</I>><i> +</I> +Localising the package descriptions shouldn't take a lot of space, +compared with localising the software included. +I really don't understand the real advantage of separating the package +description from the package. To save 1% of ISO space ? At what price +complexity ? + +my 2 cents :) + +- André +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002714.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2713">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2713">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2713">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2713">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002714.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002714.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cc27d883d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002714.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C1288230111.7482.12.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002713.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002715.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C1288230111.7482.12.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 28 03:41:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002713.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002715.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2714">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2714">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2714">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2714">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 27 octobre 2010 à 21:13 -0400, andre999 a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Why not have "one" ISOs on "small" DVDs ? +</I>><i> Say 1G, 1,5G instead of 4,7G +</I>><i> We don't have to insist on CDs. +</I>><i> Maybe call them "one plus" ISOs ? +</I> +This was said numerous time in the past , but I guess not enough since +people keep asking for it. + +There is people who ask for cd, in brazil, angola or other country with +slightly less developed hardwares at their disposition. + +So to satisfy them, cd isos still need to be used. + +><i> Localising the package descriptions shouldn't take a lot of space, +</I>><i> compared with localising the software included. +</I> +Take a look at the number I gave : +"Synthesis is 750 k big, hdlist is 46 m big." + +So what you want would requires a third format for indexes, because +hdlist is too big and not flexible enough, (iirc), and synthesis is +unsuitable too by design ( that just value separated by @ ). Synthesis +is more ever quite fragile, and adding description would surely break it +(imho). + +><i> I really don't understand the real advantage of separating the package +</I>><i> description from the package. To save 1% of ISO space ? At what price +</I>><i> complexity ? +</I> +As said, the synthesis format take less space than the complete format. +So for 45 mo, yes, the complexity of having 2 formats is worth. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002713.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002715.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2714">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2714">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2714">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2714">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002715.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002715.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b0feb78df --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002715.html @@ -0,0 +1,140 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaakdm%24oc5%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002714.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002718.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaakdm%24oc5%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 28 03:42:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002714.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002718.html">[Mageia-discuss] what aabout an automated way of doing it? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2715">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2715">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2715">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2715">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-27 21:13, andre999 a écrit : + +>><i> To focus on package descriptions, which really +</I>>><i> *are* of interest only to more advanced users (very few newbies know +</I>>><i> enough about Linux to care about minimalist installs), completely misses +</I>>><i> the point that there is a lot of other information about what's going on +</I>>><i> in the install that *would* be of interest to newbies. +</I>><i> It depends what you put in the package descriptions. Something like "You +</I>><i> really should install this" is totally meaningless to almost everyone. +</I>><i> A good description is not necessarily highly technical. It is really the +</I>><i> application packages that a newbie would want to select, dependancies +</I>><i> will be automatically selected, as in now the case. If a summary +</I>><i> description is clear, that could be sufficient. +</I>><i> But I tend to think that a full description should be used for +</I>><i> application packages. +</I> +I agree, the descriptions should be void of personal comments and almost +technical in style but the use of vocabulary should be such that the +vocabulary is easily understood by users. + + +>><i> In the same spirit, we could have a set of package-related ISOs, and one +</I>>><i> or more documentation ISOs. If a non-network user wants extended help +</I>>><i> and package descriptions in translated format, he obtains these ISOs. +</I>>><i> If not, he doesn't. At the start of the install, the user gets a prompt +</I>>><i> with checkboxes for each of the possible ISOs, and can indicate which +</I>>><i> are available. For any that aren't, the install doesn't even try to use +</I>>><i> what's on them. If the install detects enough available unused disk +</I>>><i> space, then the first use of any ISO can copy some or all of the ISO to +</I>>><i> hard disk for the duration of the install. Any prompt for an ISO has a +</I>>><i> way for the user to say he really doesn't have that one, in which case +</I>>><i> it is not prompted for again. All this should minimize the amount of +</I>>><i> disk-swapping. +</I> +I like the idea of more documentation, but I don't really think that +users would really read extended documentation. I think that if they +wanted more then they would look for the website for more description of +the software. + +><i> Lots of disks, but minimal disk-swapping ? +</I>><i> Why not a single DVD, and no disk-swapping ? +</I>>><i> That answers the objections of those who don't want to have to download +</I>>><i> many ISOs to do an install, and also addresses the needs of non-network +</I>>><i> users (e.g. small schools) who want a full-featured set of install media +</I>>><i> that can be reused repeatedly for friendly installs without network +</I>>><i> access. It also minimizes disk-swapping, unless the system is really +</I>>><i> tight on space, in which case the install is at least still possible, +</I>>><i> albeit with some disk swapping (assuming the user wants to use multiple +</I>>><i> ISOs). +</I>><i> Note that schools would generally have the bandwidth to download a DVD. +</I>><i> So little or no need for disk swapping. +</I> +If your are talking about primary / secondary schools, then, here in +Canada, the downloading is normally locked down and there is usually not +enough disk space accorded to the students. + +><i> +</I>><i> The problem with all this is it makes things more complicated. For +</I>><i> Mageia. For new users. But maybe not so much for experienced users with +</I>><i> a large bandwidth. But are these the users we are addressing ? +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> As always, network users could opt to download dynamically anything they +</I>>><i> didn't have ISO media for, with the same provision for caching, if space +</I>>><i> allowed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Localising the package descriptions shouldn't take a lot of space, +</I>><i> compared with localising the software included. +</I>><i> I really don't understand the real advantage of separating the package +</I>><i> description from the package. To save 1% of ISO space ? At what price +</I>><i> complexity ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> my 2 cents :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - André +</I>><i> +</I> +I agree, it should be kept as compact as possible so that the people +writing up the descriptions and the packagers don't get caught up in +scheduling conflicts due to the size of description and translations. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002714.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002718.html">[Mageia-discuss] what aabout an automated way of doing it? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2715">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2715">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2715">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2715">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002716.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002716.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..36ef5a8fa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002716.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaakkg%24oc5%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002712.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002717.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3Ciaakkg%24oc5%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 28 03:45:52 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2716">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2716">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2716">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2716">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-10-27 20:21, andre999 a écrit : + +><i> +</I>><i> I and others have already suggested this in various posts, and I sure +</I>><i> hope that we implement this. It is very doable. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Since Mozilla started it, it has dramatically improved the completeness +</I>><i> of French translations, in which I was involved, even though many +</I>><i> translators at first complained about having to react in real time. +</I>><i> Virtually all localisations - except EN-US :) - showed significant +</I>><i> improvements in completeness, a number reaching 100%. A rare feat before. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The new LibreOffice is using this method, as was done under OpenOffice. +</I>><i> Because of restrictions by Sun (continued by Oracle), LibreOffice has to +</I>><i> redo all the translations. +</I>><i> A big job, but this method really helps. Sun insisted that all +</I>><i> contributors had to submit a hard-copy signed contract to assign their +</I>><i> copyright to Sun, which severely limited contributions, including my own. +</I>><i> LibreOffice is initially using about the same organisation, but no +</I>><i> copyright assignment. +</I>><i> Interestingly, much like Mageia, LibreOffice has attracted most of the +</I>><i> key contributors. But surprisingly, Oracle is insisting that +</I>><i> contributors decide : OpenOffice or LibreOffice, but not both. Note that +</I>><i> most of the development work on OpenOffice has been done by contributors +</I>><i> paid by Sun/Oracle, unlike the situation with Mandriva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +It is certainly getting a lot of attention in these threads and it seems +that overall people are agreeable to it. I think that if someone wrote +up the process once again, according to what people on the list thought +was agreeable it could maybe be put in place. As you said it is very +doable and it seems to me that it is a winning item for all of us. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2716">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2716">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2716">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2716">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002717.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002717.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8d57128d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002717.html @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Suggestions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC92570.9050409%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002716.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002713.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C4CC92570.9050409%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 28 09:25:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002716.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002713.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2717">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2717">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2717">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2717">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I did not want to "steal" your ideas - precisely the opposite: I tried +to repeat some salient points which have come up several times - I was +afraid that they might get lost in the wealth of input to this list :) +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002716.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002713.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2717">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2717">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2717">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2717">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002718.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002718.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..16c4d531c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101028/002718.html @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] what aabout an automated way of doing it? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20what%20aabout%20an%20automated%20way%20of%20doing%20it%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C161226.44889.qm%40web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002715.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] what aabout an automated way of doing it?</H1> + <B>Dj Marian</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20what%20aabout%20an%20automated%20way%20of%20doing%20it%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C161226.44889.qm%40web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] what aabout an automated way of doing it?">djmarian4u at yahoo.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 28 10:08:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002715.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2718">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2718">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2718">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2718">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>i´ve got mdv lxde... i was just saying that it would be great to make the +program guess what the user wants to find, save what the user usually uses, and +by that pattern the next time the user searches would find what he would be most +likely looking for. 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