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This is seen in our Core Values, where the main +</I>><i> > focus is showing people that we are a Community, not a corporation, and +</I>><i> > that we care about our users. On the other side we have the +</I>><i> > intermediate-to-advanced Linux users, which CAN and/or DO choose a Linux +</I>><i> > OS and FOSS Technologies. To these users we can introduce a branding +</I>><i> > that includes our special characteristics in the Linux world and the +</I>><i> > advantages of using our development branch, etc. But Graham's point +</I>><i> > still stands, that we need to define these target markets more fully so +</I>><i> > we can better assess the Mageia reputation in each of them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My opinion is from my POV: I'm a home user, FLOSS enthusiast, curious, +</I>><i> I love computers, love to read, love to learn, love to help in forums, +</I>><i> but in the end, I'm just a regular-guy-not-developer. I work in +</I>><i> nothing related with computers, just an administrative employee. I'm a +</I>><i> dad, I'm a husband. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Said this, I start. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What I see when I navigate Internet is this: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/">http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/">http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/">http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/discover">http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/discover</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features">http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> These are examples of the way other big companies "sell" their +</I>><i> products. They keep it simple. They describe it with simplicity, +</I>><i> non-technical language. Obviously, they are targeting people that know +</I>><i> very little about computers, OS, software. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Images are almost always showing mom+dad+kids (or teens) all together, +</I>><i> around the notebook, laughing, enjoying. Or teenagers with their +</I>><i> backpacks, and skates, cool clothes, doing things like chat, listening +</I>><i> music, watching a video, facebook, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My point is that these big companies, exhibit their products with a +</I>><i> "common people" language, showing images of common people, doing +</I>><i> ordinary things. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why? because common people is the people who need to be convinced. +</I>><i> Common people have doubts, maybe they are a little scare about if the +</I>><i> hit a key and a program is erased. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> People like all of you and me, know what we want and what we need +</I>><i> (talking about the OS and software and hardware). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I know that I can mount a small server with an ordinary Win XP, if I +</I>><i> put in it the right software. The same XP that Microsoft "sell" to +</I>><i> ordinary people with nice images of the family watching Toy Story in +</I>><i> the notebook. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I (and all of you) don't need that a company mounting images of a geek +</I>><i> mounting a server with Gentoo. Because we are not ordinary users. We +</I>><i> need something, we go to Google, we go to forums, we read a lot, we +</I>><i> pick the software we need, we set it up, and we mount whatever satisfy +</I>><i> our need. We're self sufficient. We are "special". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We won't use Mageia because the marketing team convince us. We are +</I>><i> here to build it from the very base. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ordinary people must be convinced by us (or by our marketing team) +</I>><i> that Mageia is easy. That Mageia will not bite them. That they will +</I>><i> watch their movies, talk with their IM friends, listen music, create +</I>><i> their documents, without open a console and type "dark" commands that +</I>><i> they can't understand. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We must make "common people" feel comfortable in Mageia. They must +</I>><i> feel joy using their computers with Mageia. To use Mageia must be easy +</I>><i> and pleasurable work/play/hand around with Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, the console will be there for "power users". Packages to +</I>><i> mount a servers will also be there too. But you don't need to create a +</I>><i> big marketing campaign for power users, because they know what is +</I>><i> available, and how to install it and configure. And if they don't, +</I>><i> they will read and learn. Because that's our nature. As regular +</I>><i> people's nature is "I don't care how it works, I just want it working +</I>><i> right and quick". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, I'm sorry but I agree with the people who want to target this +</I>><i> "ordinary people". Because I don't think that making Mageia easier and +</I>><i> friendly hurt or damage advanced users. Linux will be always powerful, +</I>><i> with the right packages. And any advanced user can make "urpmi +</I>><i> my-advanced-packages" whenever he/she needs. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We need to attract more non-linux users. Because if all Linux distros +</I>><i> have 1% of the market, and we attract just users from other distros, +</I>><i> you only change the way that 1% is distributed. +</I> ++1 +><i> +</I>><i> My respect to marketing team. +</I> +thanks : ) +><i> +</I>><i> Regards. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</I> + +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002430.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002431.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2425">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2425">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2425">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2425">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |