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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+ <I>Fri Oct 15 06:47:48 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On 15 October 2010 02:19, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Friday 15 Oct 2010 12:14:04 J.A. Magall&#243;n wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:30:25 +1300, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; We are in the desktop computing market, the chunk we want a part of is at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; present occupied by MS. &#160;In this market the name we want to promote is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia, we have no need to identify with Linux.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Don't know how much salt I need for this, but please don't even try that,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> specially for non techincal people.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They will think: ah, I can choose Windows, Linux or Mageia. Lets try some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> linux, people talk well about it...who will I impress if I said I installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a 'Mageia' ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If Impressing someone else with their Computing platform is important to a
+</I>&gt;<i> person, they will go Mac.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Compare to 'hey, I finally found a Linux distro I can use', 'which one',
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'mageia', 'mmm, lets try it...'.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The plethora of distributions simply adds confusion. &#160;Are people deciding on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mac deciding between OSX and FreeBSD?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For nontechnical people Linux is confusing, because nontechnical people aren't
+</I>&gt;<i> going to be able to make a sensible choice between a deb based or rpm based,
+</I>&gt;<i> Gnome centric or KDE centric, zypper yum or apt and on and on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ask a nontechnical user &quot;What is a distribution?&quot; &#160;what do you think the
+</I>&gt;<i> answer would be. &#160;People identify with brands. &#160;The question that they will
+</I>&gt;<i> most likely ask is Windows, Ubuntu, Mac or Mageia?(eventually :) &#160;) &#160;Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> will feature for some but only a small minority.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I don't think any respectable Linux distro should go the Ubuntu way in
+the branding part. Promoting ourselves as just &quot;Mageia&quot; not as
+&quot;Mageia, a Linux distro&quot;, even implicitly, is just wrong. People who
+contribute to the FOSS world still have ethics and &quot;values&quot; to uphold.
+I don't care if it's commercially successful or not, and we _can be a
+successful Linux distro_.
+
+Now I don't see anything wrong in getting users to educate themselves
+on what Linux is, that's a 10 minute search on the internet :)
+
+&gt;<i> Nontechnical people, especially coming from a windows environment simply want
+</I>&gt;<i> to know: &#160;&quot;Will it do what I can do now in Windows&quot;, they really don't care
+</I>&gt;<i> about the kernel or any of the other stuff.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Graham Lauder,
+</I>&gt;<i> OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> INGOTs Assessor Trainer
+</I>&gt;<i> (International Grades in Open Technologies)
+</I>&gt;<i> www.theingots.org
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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