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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20How%20about%20launching%20%22Mageia%20working%20parties%22%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Ci91agk%24okl%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] How about launching &quot;Mageia working parties&quot;?">marc at marcpare.com
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+ <I>Tue Oct 12 11:41:40 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-12 04:54, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:17, Juergen Harms&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's an excellent point that indeed, complements teams, for
+</I>&gt;<i> cross-displinary works and experiments.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some embroidery around how such working parties might work:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - their principal aim should be to work out concepts / proposals that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> improve the end-user value of Mageia;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - their work should be complementary to what the established Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> structures do (Mageia teams, the cooker-follow-up, etc);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - they should be self-organised (off-load work from the established
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> structures; in one extreme using a private mailing list for communication,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in the other extreme use a temporarily maintained sub-forum)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - they should work under the umbrella of Mageia (the work should in relation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to topics raised in Mageia mailing lists and forums, Mageia should be kept
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> informed; Mageia might formulate some general guidelines to be respected in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> order to accept the working party under the label of Mageia).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that would be coordinated by/reported to the Mageia Council then.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There needs to be some sort of formal designation (to know who is
+</I>&gt;<i> working with whom and on what) as well as progress/final reporting and
+</I>&gt;<i> archives of discussions or results. But that's something to iron out
+</I>&gt;<i> of practice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would be good/obvious for Mageia.org to provide tools for that, but
+</I>&gt;<i> indeed, letting these groups experiment with unused, outside tools is
+</I>&gt;<i> a good opportunity as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for the &quot;Install from Windows&quot; thing, that could be a start, but
+</I>&gt;<i> (these are general points anyway):
+</I>&gt;<i> - before, or while building this work group, you have to assess the
+</I>&gt;<i> value of having an Linux installer from Windows; that is, goal is not
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a &quot;me too&quot; installer; goal is to understand why/if there needs
+</I>&gt;<i> to be a Linux installer from Windows in the first place and if there
+</I>&gt;<i> is a user-benefit of having one on the large scale and in the user
+</I>&gt;<i> flow (that is, as several pointed out in the thread, isn't this more
+</I>&gt;<i> like a &quot;fast&quot; answer to a problem that has not been thought deeply
+</I>&gt;<i> enough?) =&gt; in short, what problem does this solve? is it really the
+</I>&gt;<i> problem? is it really a good solution?
+</I>&gt;<i> - for instance, is it to fully replace the system? dual boot? user to
+</I>&gt;<i> decide? will the user be properly reassured about the process, her
+</I>&gt;<i> data and really understand what is going to happen?
+</I>&gt;<i> - note that this is not to discourage, it's to test the idea;
+</I>&gt;<i> moreover, there can be other benefits from working on a Windows-based
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux installer (if ever): knowledge, inter-systems operatins, doc,
+</I>&gt;<i> skills;
+</I>&gt;<i> - volunteers should spec this (a short one will do), what they expect
+</I>&gt;<i> to demonstrate as a proof-of-concept (working program, user flow
+</I>&gt;<i> project), build the work group (for instance here, will likely need a
+</I>&gt;<i> Windows system developer at least), focus and then go ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Just in case you are not aware, there is a survey on the discuss list
+trying to collect this particular data. You may want to add your input
+to the survey. Look for the thread: &quot;[tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion -
+LibreOffice Install and Update&quot; where some users have already raised
+these points.
+
+Marc
+
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