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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] How about launching "Mageia working parties"?</H1>
<B>Marc Paré</B>
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<I>Tue Oct 12 11:41:40 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>Le 2010-10-12 04:54, Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
><i> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:17, Juergen Harms<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>> wrote:
</I>>><i> [...]
</I>><i>
</I>><i> That's an excellent point that indeed, complements teams, for
</I>><i> cross-displinary works and experiments.
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> Some embroidery around how such working parties might work:
</I>>><i> - their principal aim should be to work out concepts / proposals that
</I>>><i> improve the end-user value of Mageia;
</I>>><i> - their work should be complementary to what the established Mageia
</I>>><i> structures do (Mageia teams, the cooker-follow-up, etc);
</I>>><i> - they should be self-organised (off-load work from the established
</I>>><i> structures; in one extreme using a private mailing list for communication,
</I>>><i> in the other extreme use a temporarily maintained sub-forum)
</I>>><i> - they should work under the umbrella of Mageia (the work should in relation
</I>>><i> to topics raised in Mageia mailing lists and forums, Mageia should be kept
</I>>><i> informed; Mageia might formulate some general guidelines to be respected in
</I>>><i> order to accept the working party under the label of Mageia).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So that would be coordinated by/reported to the Mageia Council then.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> There needs to be some sort of formal designation (to know who is
</I>><i> working with whom and on what) as well as progress/final reporting and
</I>><i> archives of discussions or results. But that's something to iron out
</I>><i> of practice.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Would be good/obvious for Mageia.org to provide tools for that, but
</I>><i> indeed, letting these groups experiment with unused, outside tools is
</I>><i> a good opportunity as well.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As for the "Install from Windows" thing, that could be a start, but
</I>><i> (these are general points anyway):
</I>><i> - before, or while building this work group, you have to assess the
</I>><i> value of having an Linux installer from Windows; that is, goal is not
</I>><i> to make a "me too" installer; goal is to understand why/if there needs
</I>><i> to be a Linux installer from Windows in the first place and if there
</I>><i> is a user-benefit of having one on the large scale and in the user
</I>><i> flow (that is, as several pointed out in the thread, isn't this more
</I>><i> like a "fast" answer to a problem that has not been thought deeply
</I>><i> enough?) => in short, what problem does this solve? is it really the
</I>><i> problem? is it really a good solution?
</I>><i> - for instance, is it to fully replace the system? dual boot? user to
</I>><i> decide? will the user be properly reassured about the process, her
</I>><i> data and really understand what is going to happen?
</I>><i> - note that this is not to discourage, it's to test the idea;
</I>><i> moreover, there can be other benefits from working on a Windows-based
</I>><i> Linux installer (if ever): knowledge, inter-systems operatins, doc,
</I>><i> skills;
</I>><i> - volunteers should spec this (a short one will do), what they expect
</I>><i> to demonstrate as a proof-of-concept (working program, user flow
</I>><i> project), build the work group (for instance here, will likely need a
</I>><i> Windows system developer at least), focus and then go ahead.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Romain
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Just in case you are not aware, there is a survey on the discuss list
trying to collect this particular data. You may want to add your input
to the survey. Look for the thread: "[tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion -
LibreOffice Install and Update" where some users have already raised
these points.
Marc
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