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HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailing%20List%20to%20Web%20Forum%20Bidirectional%20Gateway&In-Reply-To=%3C201010032240.45965.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway">omejean at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Oct 3 22:40:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2053">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2053">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2053">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2053">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 3 octobre 2010 06:25:58, Tux99 a écrit : +><i> I have set up a test web forum with bidirectional gateway to the +</I>><i> Mageia mailing lists. +</I>><i> I did this primarily to test the forum<>ML gateway functionality +</I>><i> with the hope that it will be also implemented in the future +</I>><i> official Mageia forum. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This forum ML gateway is in no way meant to preempt or compete with +</I>><i> the future official forum, on the contrary once the official forum is +</I>><i> up and running (hopefully with equivalent functionality), I expect +</I>><i> to shutdown this test forum again. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The forum has already been filling up with posts since Friday +</I>><i> afternoon, and it also creates automatically a forum user for every +</I>><i> unique email address of senders of mailing list posts. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Therefore if you have posted on the mailing lists in the past couple +</I>><i> of days, you will find that you already have a forum userid. +</I>><i> If you want to make use of it, go to the forum login page, enter +</I>><i> your email address (the same one you use for the mailing lists!), +</I>><i> click on "forgot password" and wait to receive an email for the +</I>><i> password reset procedure. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Once you have your password you can login and post messages in the +</I>><i> mailing list forums, which then will also be posted to the mailing +</I>><i> lists. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you only want to use the forum to read the mailing list posts, +</I>><i> then of course you don't need to register/login at all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please notice that the FIRST post for each user from the forum to the +</I>><i> mailing lists takes about 5 minutes to get through, this is because +</I>><i> the Mageia mailing lists have grey-listing active to avoid spam. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you don't already have an automatically added userid on the forum, +</I>><i> then you can register as new user, but please make sure that you use +</I>><i> the SAME EMAIL ADDRESS as you used to subscribe to the mailing lists, +</I>><i> otherwise your posts to the mailing list will need to be manually +</I>><i> approved by the Mageia mailing list admins, which means they will +</I>><i> be delayed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also to avoid spammers, every new user registration on the forum +</I>><i> requires moderator (that would be me :) approval, so it can take +</I>><i> up to 24 hours (but usually much less). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here is the direct link to the forum members pages, look here to +</I>><i> see if you already have a userid: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=finduser&usr_login=&u">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=finduser&usr_login=&u</A> +</I>><i> s=2&btn_submit=Find +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The forum main page is here: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Myself and a few others have been testing the forum in the last few +</I>><i> days, so I can say it's stable and works well, but of course it hasn't +</I>><i> been tested under heavy load yet, so please be gentle... :) +</I>><i> (this forum is running on a relatively low power rented virtual server +</I>><i> so don't expect great performance under heavy load) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you have any problems with the forum itself, please post them in +</I>><i> the dedicated sub-forum called "Forum discussion", don't post them +</I>><i> here on the Mageia ML as it would be off topic. +</I>><i> This sub-forum is obviously not replicated on any Mageia mailing list. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I hope it will be useful for those of us who prefer a web forum rather +</I>><i> than mailing lists, but still want to partecipate in the mailing list +</I>><i> discussions! +</I>><i> +</I> +Hi there + +Well, that's a great job, really, nice to see such a thing is possible. + +However i would like to point something very important for me, forum users are +quite different from ML users. + +In fact, throught this system we face one goal of Mageia. Will it be a +distribution for "developers" or for "end-users" (well i know developers are +also end-users). End-users, well just users may come from Windows (i hope we +will attract some to the good side of the force :D ) and they feels a forum +must easier than a ML. Just look at rules on the ML here, no html, no top +posting, just quote well are things that needs to use mail correctly. And just +use mail correctly is sometimes hard for just users. I do not work in +computing and i just see how computers are seen, how they are used and how +theses 3 rules would be hard to use. No HTML ? well i guess few users (outside +those working in computing) knows how to do it, no top posting ... ouch quite +impossible, quote well ... hum what do you calll quoting ? + +Let's face it, ML is a tool for developers not a tool for users. As a user i +do prefer forums, on one topic i can have the full discussion no need to +navigate between mails, there are colors, it is (or it give the feeling) more +attractive and newbies or users will prefer using forums. That's the same +thing between using GUI or CLI, i know CLI is powerful, faster, very efficient, +but for users GUI is better, they feel at ease when using their mouse to point +and click, validate. + +I have also praticed a lot web forum, and a very little usenet and it is also +two differents audience. Anyone here on alt.os.linux.mandriva (hum yes Marc +Paré is on) ? + +So, even if there is a good tool to have a bidirectional Gateway between ML +and web forum i don't think we will meet efficiency with it. The best way for me +is to have these different tools since they have different audiences, some of us +will be on both tools but most will use just one. + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2053">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2053">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2053">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2053">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |