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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
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+&gt;<i> Mageia 23, Mageia 37. Sounds good? At least for me it doesn't :)
+</I>
+Fedora 14 beta is out. Slackware 13.1, too. But when we get there, we
+can improvise. We can do like Corel DRAW! X4 , that has a impact name
+and is the 14th version (X4 = X + 4 and X is 10 in Roman numerals). Or
+we can use both, eg: M$ Office 2010 is, internally, Office 14.
+
+For more than a version to year, we can use months, sequential numbers
+or a strange numbering system like Mageia 1.0.20110101 where last part
+is YYYYMMDD.
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+ <B>Mika Laitio</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;&gt;<i> Given past experience with the x.0 releases of Mandrake/Mandriva perhaps we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should start counting releases with x.1 ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How about we give up the x.0 and x.1 release naming?
+</I>&gt;<i> It's just helping to give misconceptions about the releases, for example
+</I>&gt;<i> that x.1 releases are more polished than y.0, which was never intended.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could go with a Fedora like naming, incremental numbering.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1, Mageia 2, Mageia 3, ...
+</I>
+My feeling is that the year based numbering is most clearest and actually
+was a good change from Mandriva some years ago.
+
+For releases cycles, I have also been pretty happy. I have some computers
+(laptops and servers where I often skip every second release if things
+like suspend/resume are working at the moment). But I have couple of
+computers where I on the other hand want always test the latest stuff, and
+for those the 6 month cycle is good.
+
+Given the amount of time that is needed for polishing things, maybe the
+8-9 month cycle like in suse would indeed be a good compromise?
+
+Mika
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-02 17:26, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 02 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive
+</I>&gt;<i> from Ahmad Samir&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; who wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You want more releases per year?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, I question whether we should be iron-bound to a fixed number, of whether
+</I>&gt;<i> we should wheel out a new release when it is ready and fit for consumption.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron.
+</I>
+I think that 2 releases a year are more than enough. From the feedback I
+get from other users locally that I help, after a while, they get the
+impression that there must be something wrong with the distro to have so
+many releases ALL the time. Too many releases may in fact hurt the brand
+Mageia more that help it. It may be cool for the devs and power users to
+have more releases, but for the vast majority, it is a huge time
+commitment not to mention the potential of loss data due to lack of
+knowledge of distro installation.
+
+I would vote for 2 maximum but with more updating/backporting of newer
+software versions. We have to take care of our user-base.
+
+Marc
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-02 18:24, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 23, Mageia 37. Sounds good? At least for me it doesn't :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora 14 beta is out. Slackware 13.1, too. But when we get there, we
+</I>&gt;<i> can improvise. We can do like Corel DRAW! X4 , that has a impact name
+</I>&gt;<i> and is the 14th version (X4 = X + 4 and X is 10 in Roman numerals). Or
+</I>&gt;<i> we can use both, eg: M$ Office 2010 is, internally, Office 14.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For more than a version to year, we can use months, sequential numbers
+</I>&gt;<i> or a strange numbering system like Mageia 1.0.20110101 where last part
+</I>&gt;<i> is YYYYMMDD.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Whichever numbering system is used, it should be easily understood by
+the average user and it should not look like it is making the previous
+version sound like an inferior product. I personally don't mind the year
+assignation &quot;Mageia 2010.1&quot; followed by &quot;Magiea 2010.2&quot; which, to me, is
+easily explainable to everyone ... &quot;Mageia 2010.1&quot; is the first release
+of Mageia in 2010 and &quot;Mageia 2010.2&quot; is the second release of Mageia in
+2010.
+
+It should be a numbering system that is easily understood regardless of
+country, culture or age. A 10 year-old and 90 year-old should be able to
+guess and understand the system easily. This could then be our &quot;public&quot;
+numbering system. Easily read and easily understood.
+
+As to the Cauldron, dev etc. versions, then it could very well be a more
+descriptive numbering system based on day/month/year (the metric date
+format) Mageia09022010. This could then be our &quot;dev&quot; and &quot;internal&quot;
+numbering system. We would, of course, promote the fact, that our
+develop system dating and numbering system would follow the long
+established metric formats.
+
+Marc
+
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+ <B>Jiang Yike</B>
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+<PRE>2010/9/25 You-Cheng Hsieh wrote:
+&gt;<i>Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>We have a traditional chinese(zh-TW) translation here:
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://groups.google.com.tw/group/mageia-taiwan/t/25d6ce75f3c72e21">http://groups.google.com.tw/group/mageia-taiwan/t/25d6ce75f3c72e21</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>However, I don't write or read simplified chinese (zh-CN), so I cannot
+</I>&gt;<i>give suggestion for that.
+</I>&gt;<i>Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+2010/10/1 You-Cheng Hsieh wrote:
+&gt;<i>Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>Although some people can read both simplified and traditional Chinese
+</I>&gt;<i>characters, there are users who have difficulty reading one of them,
+</I>&gt;<i>either simplified or traditional. I suggest no matter in any
+</I>&gt;<i>circumstances, we should not use only simplified or traditional
+</I>&gt;<i>Chinese translation to present a single &quot;Chinese&quot; page. Since you have
+</I>&gt;<i>already made your translation, we can put both zh-CN and zh-TW pages
+</I>&gt;<i>online for users of both different character forms.
+</I>&gt;<i>Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+Hello! I still don't see the simplified Chinese page on the Mageia site.
+What's wrong with my translation? Can you improve it? Or do you have a
+better translation for simplified Chinese language? The translation has
+been sent to you at Sep. 22, but now there still is no a clear reply.
+
+There are many large difference between Chinese and English. For some
+words such as &quot;fork&quot;, it's very difficult to give a exactly literal
+translation, so a free translation is given. Many Chinese phrases also
+are very difficult to be exactly translated into English. In Chinese IT
+media, &quot;fork&quot; is always translated into &quot;&#20998;&#25903;&quot; (branch) or &quot;&#34893;&#29983;&quot;
+(derivative). It is a customary translation.
+
+Since you said that simplified Chinese translation is only
+representative of simplified Chinese language, so, please add a page
+which link is &quot;zh-CN&quot; and name is &quot;&#31616;&#20307;&#20013;&#25991;&quot;.
+
+Take care!
+
+Jiang Yike (the nickname &quot;Linux Lover&quot; in Mandriva official forum, and I
+have registered a nickname &quot;ake&quot; in this site)
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+&gt;<i>As to the Cauldron, dev etc. versions, then it could very well be a more
+</I>&gt;<i>descriptive numbering system based on day/month/year (the metric date
+</I>&gt;<i>format) Mageia09022010. This could then be our &quot;dev&quot; and &quot;internal&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>numbering system. We would, of course, promote the fact, that our
+</I>&gt;<i>develop system dating and numbering system would follow the long
+</I>established metric formats.
+
+
+If date formats are to be used, I would prefer the iso-8601 date format :
+
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html">http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html</A>
+A summary of the international standard date and time notation
+
+so :
+Mageia20100209
+or
+Mageia2010-02-09
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+&gt;<i> Since 2011 is the target my wish list is simple.
+</I>&gt;<i> X.org Server 1.10
+</I>&gt;<i> Mesa 7.9
+</I>&gt;<i> Kernel 2.6.36.x
+</I>
+My wishlist is about graphics interface.
+If it is too late for designing a new theme (or improve iaora), we should use
+oxygen for KDE, and pack oxygen-molecule GTK theme for KDE integration.
+And about Gnome, we should use their base theme (forget the name)
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+</I>&gt;<i> X.org Server 1.10
+</I>&gt;<i> Mesa 7.9
+</I>&gt;<i> Kernel 2.6.36.x
+</I>
+My wishlist is about graphics interface.
+If it is too late for designing a new theme (or improve iaora), we should use
+oxygen for KDE, and pack oxygen-molecule GTK theme for KDE integration.
+And about Gnome, we should use their base theme (forget the name)
+--
+Sorry if I'm breaking the thread, I'm using KMail B&#234;ta ...
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+&gt;<i> I'll need more help to put online chinese because it's very very
+</I>&gt;<i> different from the group of left-to-right languages i have had to deal
+</I>&gt;<i> With up to now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ma&#226;t
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hello,
+What kind of help do you need? I can help with traditional Chinese
+(zh-TW) page, while I think Jiang Yike can help with simplified
+Chinese (zh-CN).
+
+Regards,
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+I have set up a test web forum with bidirectional gateway to the
+Mageia mailing lists.
+I did this primarily to test the forum&lt;&gt;ML gateway functionality
+with the hope that it will be also implemented in the future
+official Mageia forum.
+
+This forum ML gateway is in no way meant to preempt or compete with
+the future official forum, on the contrary once the official forum is
+up and running (hopefully with equivalent functionality), I expect
+to shutdown this test forum again.
+
+The forum has already been filling up with posts since Friday
+afternoon, and it also creates automatically a forum user for every
+unique email address of senders of mailing list posts.
+
+Therefore if you have posted on the mailing lists in the past couple
+of days, you will find that you already have a forum userid.
+If you want to make use of it, go to the forum login page, enter
+your email address (the same one you use for the mailing lists!),
+click on &quot;forgot password&quot; and wait to receive an email for the
+password reset procedure.
+
+Once you have your password you can login and post messages in the
+mailing list forums, which then will also be posted to the mailing
+lists.
+
+If you only want to use the forum to read the mailing list posts,
+then of course you don't need to register/login at all.
+
+Please notice that the FIRST post for each user from the forum to the
+mailing lists takes about 5 minutes to get through, this is because
+the Mageia mailing lists have grey-listing active to avoid spam.
+
+If you don't already have an automatically added userid on the forum,
+then you can register as new user, but please make sure that you use
+the SAME EMAIL ADDRESS as you used to subscribe to the mailing lists,
+otherwise your posts to the mailing list will need to be manually
+approved by the Mageia mailing list admins, which means they will
+be delayed.
+
+Also to avoid spammers, every new user registration on the forum
+requires moderator (that would be me :) approval, so it can take
+up to 24 hours (but usually much less).
+
+Here is the direct link to the forum members pages, look here to
+see if you already have a userid:
+ <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=finduser&amp;usr_login=&amp;u">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=finduser&amp;usr_login=&amp;u</A>
+s=2&amp;btn_submit=Find
+
+The forum main page is here:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+
+Myself and a few others have been testing the forum in the last few
+days, so I can say it's stable and works well, but of course it hasn't
+been tested under heavy load yet, so please be gentle... :)
+(this forum is running on a relatively low power rented virtual server
+so don't expect great performance under heavy load)
+
+If you have any problems with the forum itself, please post them in
+the dedicated sub-forum called &quot;Forum discussion&quot;, don't post them
+here on the Mageia ML as it would be off topic.
+This sub-forum is obviously not replicated on any Mageia mailing list.
+
+I hope it will be useful for those of us who prefer a web forum rather
+than mailing lists, but still want to partecipate in the mailing list
+discussions!
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-03 00:25, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have set up a test web forum with bidirectional gateway to the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia mailing lists.
+</I>&gt;<i> I did this primarily to test the forum&lt;&gt;ML gateway functionality
+</I>&gt;<i> with the hope that it will be also implemented in the future
+</I>&gt;<i> official Mageia forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This forum ML gateway is in no way meant to preempt or compete with
+</I>&gt;<i> the future official forum, on the contrary once the official forum is
+</I>&gt;<i> up and running (hopefully with equivalent functionality), I expect
+</I>&gt;<i> to shutdown this test forum again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The forum has already been filling up with posts since Friday
+</I>&gt;<i> afternoon, and it also creates automatically a forum user for every
+</I>&gt;<i> unique email address of senders of mailing list posts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Therefore if you have posted on the mailing lists in the past couple
+</I>&gt;<i> of days, you will find that you already have a forum userid.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to make use of it, go to the forum login page, enter
+</I>&gt;<i> your email address (the same one you use for the mailing lists!),
+</I>&gt;<i> click on &quot;forgot password&quot; and wait to receive an email for the
+</I>&gt;<i> password reset procedure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once you have your password you can login and post messages in the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list forums, which then will also be posted to the mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> lists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you only want to use the forum to read the mailing list posts,
+</I>&gt;<i> then of course you don't need to register/login at all.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please notice that the FIRST post for each user from the forum to the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing lists takes about 5 minutes to get through, this is because
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia mailing lists have grey-listing active to avoid spam.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you don't already have an automatically added userid on the forum,
+</I>&gt;<i> then you can register as new user, but please make sure that you use
+</I>&gt;<i> the SAME EMAIL ADDRESS as you used to subscribe to the mailing lists,
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise your posts to the mailing list will need to be manually
+</I>&gt;<i> approved by the Mageia mailing list admins, which means they will
+</I>&gt;<i> be delayed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also to avoid spammers, every new user registration on the forum
+</I>&gt;<i> requires moderator (that would be me :) approval, so it can take
+</I>&gt;<i> up to 24 hours (but usually much less).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the direct link to the forum members pages, look here to
+</I>&gt;<i> see if you already have a userid:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=finduser&amp;usr_login=&amp;u">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=finduser&amp;usr_login=&amp;u</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> s=2&amp;btn_submit=Find
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The forum main page is here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Myself and a few others have been testing the forum in the last few
+</I>&gt;<i> days, so I can say it's stable and works well, but of course it hasn't
+</I>&gt;<i> been tested under heavy load yet, so please be gentle... :)
+</I>&gt;<i> (this forum is running on a relatively low power rented virtual server
+</I>&gt;<i> so don't expect great performance under heavy load)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you have any problems with the forum itself, please post them in
+</I>&gt;<i> the dedicated sub-forum called &quot;Forum discussion&quot;, don't post them
+</I>&gt;<i> here on the Mageia ML as it would be off topic.
+</I>&gt;<i> This sub-forum is obviously not replicated on any Mageia mailing list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope it will be useful for those of us who prefer a web forum rather
+</I>&gt;<i> than mailing lists, but still want to partecipate in the mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> discussions!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I was wondering how this will behave with the Gmane discussion group.
+Are any new forums discussions going to appear on the Gmane just as the ML?
+
+Marc
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+Quote: marc wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 06:33
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was wondering how this will behave with the Gmane discussion
+</I>&gt;<i> group.
+</I>&gt;<i> Are any new forums discussions going to appear on the Gmane
+</I>&gt;<i> just as the ML?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+Yes, any forum posts are passed through to the ML so they will
+obviously also show up on gmane.
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+You can check yourself, I have written this reply from the forum.
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-03 00:36, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: marc wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 06:33
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was wondering how this will behave with the Gmane discussion
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> group.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are any new forums discussions going to appear on the Gmane
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just as the ML?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, any forum posts are passed through to the ML so they will
+</I>&gt;<i> obviously also show up on gmane.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can check yourself, I have written this reply from the forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Nice. This covers pretty well all the discussions. Are the threads added
+automatically? or do you have to fiddle around with them before the
+thread category is created?
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+Quote: marc wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 06:52
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+</I>&gt;<i> Nice. This covers pretty well all the discussions. Are the threads
+</I>&gt;<i> added
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically? or do you have to fiddle around with them before the
+</I>&gt;<i> thread category is created?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It's all automatic, I have only done some manual fiddling when people broke
+threads (from email programs, posts originating from the forum keep threads
+perfectly), to merge the broken threads back together.
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+And like I said in my first email, I approve new users manually for now, to
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+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: marc wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 06:52
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nice. This covers pretty well all the discussions. Are the threads
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> added
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically? or do you have to fiddle around with them before the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thread category is created?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> It's all automatic, I have only done some manual fiddling when people broke
+</I>&gt;<i> threads (from email programs, posts originating from the forum keep threads
+</I>&gt;<i> perfectly), to merge the broken threads back together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And like I said in my first email, I approve new users manually for now, to
+</I>&gt;<i> avoid spammers.
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+</I>Nice work Tuxx99 :)
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+&gt;<i> I have set up a test web forum with bidirectional gateway to the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia mailing lists.
+</I>
+Amazing job! It will definitely be a great help for new users who are
+not comfortable with using mailing lists. And hopefully, it will save us
+top-posting.
+I suggest adding the forums URL to the contact section of the mageia pages.
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+One question, though. How did you handle registrations? Is posting on
+the forums restricted to people registered to the ML? Can users sign up
+on the board which will automatically sign them up to the ML?
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+Yay, I've just notied I missed paragraph explaining it. Sorry for that.
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-03 00:57, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: marc wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 06:52
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nice. This covers pretty well all the discussions. Are the threads
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> added
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically? or do you have to fiddle around with them before the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thread category is created?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's all automatic, I have only done some manual fiddling when people broke
+</I>&gt;<i> threads (from email programs, posts originating from the forum keep threads
+</I>&gt;<i> perfectly), to merge the broken threads back together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And like I said in my first email, I approve new users manually for now, to
+</I>&gt;<i> avoid spammers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I wasn't concerned with the users as you seem to have that covered. I
+was mostly concerned with broken threads and how they were treated.
+
+Good job!
+
+Will you be /Are you ... involved in setting up the official Mageia
+forums? This is a great example of what can be accomplished and
+especially with controlling the broken threads problem. In my opinion,
+the broken thread problem is a really big disruption and, from what I
+gather from the posts, is that a lot of broken posts are the result of
+the users' choice of mail readers. This would solve the problem ... as
+long as it doesn't cause too much work for the Forums admin who may have
+to merge broken posts by hand.
+
+I guess you will only know about the problem with the broken posts and
+the amount of work they require only after the board is up for a while.
+Hope it is not too much work to maintain it.
+
+Marc
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+Quote: Adrian Marcinkowski wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 07:01
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+&gt;<i> One question, though. How did you handle registrations? Is posting on
+</I>&gt;<i> the forums restricted to people registered to the ML? Can users sign up
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> on the board which will automatically sign them up to the ML?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Like I said in the first post, the forum software creates automatically a
+new forum user for all users that post on the MLs.
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+The other way round is not doable with this test setup, users that register
+on the forum but not on the ML will be able to post, but their posts will
+go in the manual approval queue of the ML (just like when someone posts on
+gmane and hasn't subscribed to the ML).
+This is how the Mageia MLs are configured, I cannot do anything about that
+myself.
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+Since this forum software package supports LDAP, on the future official
+forum all user registration could be centralised on LDAP, so I imagine it
+could be possible to automatically approve posts from the forum to the ML
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+Quote: marc wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 07:09
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+&gt;<i> Will you be /Are you ... involved in setting up the official Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> forums?
+</I>
+No I'm not, but I'm certainly willing to help whoever will be doing that if
+they chose this same forum software (FUDforum, it's GPL, written in php).
+I could even provide a dump of this forum so that the transition to the
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+&gt;<i> as long as it doesn't cause too much work for the Forums admin who may
+</I>&gt;<i> have to merge broken posts by hand.
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+So far it hasn't been too bad, it's just a normal forum moderator task
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-03 01:19, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: marc wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 07:09
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Will you be /Are you ... involved in setting up the official Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forums?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No I'm not, but I'm certainly willing to help whoever will be doing that if
+</I>&gt;<i> they chose this same forum software (FUDforum, it's GPL, written in php).
+</I>&gt;<i> I could even provide a dump of this forum so that the transition to the
+</I>&gt;<i> official forum would be seamless.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as long as it doesn't cause too much work for the Forums admin who may
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have to merge broken posts by hand.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far it hasn't been too bad, it's just a normal forum moderator task
+</I>&gt;<i> (select threads to merge, click to merge them), since on the official
+</I>&gt;<i> forum there would be moderators anyway, I imagine it would just be part of
+</I>&gt;<i> their daily routine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Let's hope it doesn't keep you too busy with the merging.
+
+Thanks a lot for doing this. It is a big help in organizing the threads.
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+Marc
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+<PRE>On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 15:13:27 +0000 (UTC)
+Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Once Association is formed, we need make a pool to choose
+</I>&gt;<i> codename.
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+</I>
+Why? If devs want a codename for whatever is brewing in the
+cauldron, fine, but PLEASE, no silly names for the released
+versions. Apart from the lack of urpmi and the terrible brown
+theme, my main reason for never trying Ubuntu is the embarrassment
+of having to confess in public that I am using Limping
+Lemur, Moulting Macaque, Nonsensical Newt, Opaque Okapi, Pretty
+Prawn etc.
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+--
+Margot
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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+&gt;<i> I question whether we should be iron-bound to a fixed number, of
+</I>&gt;<i> whether we should wheel out a new release when it is ready and fit for
+</I>&gt;<i> consumption.
+</I>
+I agree.
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+First, i do not like date-named versions at all.
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+Why not just increment the number each release.
+Mageia 1, Mageia 2 etc ?
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+Second, releases should be stable!
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+So goals should be set for &quot;next version&quot; but not carved in stone.
+For example if KDE6 still is not stable when Mageia is sheduled for release
+including KDE6 it should either be delayed until stable, changed to stable
+version and released. And task-upgradet-KDE6 in testing, and when stable in
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+Le 03/10/2010 10:36, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Den 2010-10-02 23:26:19 skrev Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I question whether we should be iron-bound to a fixed number, of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whether we should wheel out a new release when it is ready and fit for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> consumption.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First, i do not like date-named versions at all.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not just increment the number each release.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1, Mageia 2 etc ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Second, releases should be stable!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So goals should be set for &quot;next version&quot; but not carved in stone.
+</I>&gt;<i> For example if KDE6 still is not stable when Mageia is sheduled for release
+</I>&gt;<i> including KDE6 it should either be delayed until stable, changed to stable
+</I>&gt;<i> version and released. And task-upgradet-KDE6 in testing, and when stable in
+</I>&gt;<i> backport.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I think named versions is not so bad. In France, there's a car company
+called peugeot and their cars are called 207, 307, 407, and so on.
+Honestly what do you prefer :
+
+I have a 307 and it's cool !
+I have a Plymouth fury and it's cool
+
+(ok, i didn't used the twingo as an example)
+
+To stop joking, I think there's a real interest about named version.
+when you search on the web for a specific probleme for your specifiec
+release, the results are more acurate. try to search things with
+keywords &quot;mandriva 2009&quot; and try with &quot;ubuntu lucid&quot;
+
+Chag
+
+--
+&quot;Ca ne marche pas&quot; ne veut rien dire. Alors ne dites rien (ou d&#233;veloppez !)
+&quot;it doesn't work&quot; means nothing. So, say nothing (or say more !)
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+<PRE>On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 01:51 -0700, chag wrote:
+&gt;<i> try to search things with
+</I>&gt;<i> keywords &quot;mandriva 2009&quot; and try with &quot;ubuntu lucid&quot;
+</I>It is not a problem if you use <A HREF="http://google.com/linux">http://google.com/linux</A>
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+On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 09:12:28 +0100
+Margot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">margot at otfordduckscomputers.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 15:13:27 +0000 (UTC)
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Once Association is formed, we need make a pool to choose
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; codename.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why? If devs want a codename for whatever is brewing in the
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron, fine, but PLEASE, no silly names for the released
+</I>&gt;<i> versions. Apart from the lack of urpmi and the terrible brown
+</I>&gt;<i> theme, my main reason for never trying Ubuntu is the embarrassment
+</I>&gt;<i> of having to confess in public that I am using Limping
+</I>&gt;<i> Lemur, Moulting Macaque, Nonsensical Newt, Opaque Okapi, Pretty
+</I>&gt;<i> Prawn etc.
+</I>
++100
+
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+- --
+Patricia Fraser
+On the move
+Gnu/Linux 1997-2008 #283226 counter.li.org
+Dark Side - approach with caution
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 03 octobre 2010 &#224; 06:25 +0200, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> If you don't already have an automatically added userid on the forum,
+</I>&gt;<i> then you can register as new user, but please make sure that you use
+</I>&gt;<i> the SAME EMAIL ADDRESS as you used to subscribe to the mailing lists,
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise your posts to the mailing list will need to be manually
+</I>&gt;<i> approved by the Mageia mailing list admins, which means they will
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+s/delayed/delayed or erased/.
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+</I>&gt;<i> one or two warnings.
+</I>
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 02 oktober 2010 19:44:26 schreef Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI:
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 02 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> from Olivier Thauvin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; who wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bad idea:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - bittorrent servers are not so availlable, espacially several years
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; after the release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not many people download .iso file that are past their sell-by date, they
+</I>&gt;<i> tend to go for the recent release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - iso not availlable on mirror will bother people making their private
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mirror for internal use
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good, that will reduce the load on the mirrors.
+</I>
+actually, no, it won't. if you have people who occasionally get a file; it's
+different from people having daily mirroring.
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 02 oktober 2010 18:53:46 schreef Olivier Thauvin:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do plan to start to setup the mirror infrastructure this week, even some
+</I>&gt;<i> part will be temporary. Here the plan for comment and review.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Seting up rsync.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> We don't have yet the server installed and ready (the sys admin is still
+</I>&gt;<i> working on this and I guess they will do a good work.
+</I>&gt;<i> So I'll setup somewhere a basic and mostly empty tree with some reference
+</I>&gt;<i> files. Over the tree I'll setup an rsync share, access restricted by IP
+</I>&gt;<i> (eg the tree must accessible only by Tier1 mirrors).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Mirrors list
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll setup the promise web application (probably on distrib-coffee at time)
+</I>&gt;<i> + an svn read-only access to the code. The application is still limited,
+</I>&gt;<i> not beautifull but it can do the job of registering mirrors properly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) Our First Tier1 (distrib-coffee)
+</I>&gt;<i> Can be done only when rsync.mageia.org is setup (even temporary), I'll
+</I>&gt;<i> fully setup distrib-coffee to provide the full mageia tree.
+</I>&gt;<i> When this step will be done:
+</I>&gt;<i> - we'll be able to distribute small file massivelly if need
+</I>&gt;<i> - I'll be able to provide an alive mirror tree, so we'll can discuss the
+</I>&gt;<i> tree strucure
+</I>&gt;<i> - anyone wanting to do its own mirror will be able 'pre' setup it over this
+</I>&gt;<i> first Tier1 and registering it on the web application
+</I>&gt;<i> - we'll have a real testing mirror structure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: finding other Tier1 mirrors is still in progress.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) Documentation
+</I>&gt;<i> During the setup I'll write a documentation about how to properly do a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Mirror. This documentation will be addressed to anyone wanting to
+</I>&gt;<i> do a _public_ mirror with the rules to have officially validated.
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest having this documentation as text file at the top of mirror tree.
+</I>&gt;<i> This make faster to find as the first thing a mirror admin look is the
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror tree. This does not deny to reference it on Wiki.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once each step is done I'll send mail with the progress and all
+</I>&gt;<i> informations you can need to give feedback.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> About the mirror directories structure: I'll start another thread for this
+</I>&gt;<i> subject, so please be patient.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have comment or proposal about this process ?
+</I>
+no comment, other than placing that documentation at the top of the mirror
+tree is a very good idea.
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Machado</B>
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+&gt;<i> My wishlist is about graphics interface.
+</I>&gt;<i> If it is too late for designing a new theme (or improve iaora), we should use
+</I>&gt;<i> oxygen for KDE, and pack oxygen-molecule GTK theme for KDE integration.
+</I>&gt;<i> And about Gnome, we should use their base theme (forget the name)
+</I>
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+Apart versioning, my wishlist includes:
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+a) Erase Numlock service. Guys, that thing sucks!
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+b) Offer support to dial-up softmodens. Many Brasilian distros offer it, but is
+a polemical point, since that many softmodens drivers (like PCTEL HSP56MR) are
+covered by a proprietary license. Despite ADSL-like connections increase, too
+many people still using dial-up connections nowadays and is know that Linux
+distros forgot this hardware compatibility.
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+c) Improve installation on Virtualbox (bootmanager install).
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+d) No survey at install time!
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+e) No desktop icons to upgrade to paid Mageia Enterprise Professional PowerPack
+Gold Deluxe Edition!
+
+...
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+More with time.
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+Reguards.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> e) No desktop icons to upgrade to paid Mageia Enterprise Professional PowerPack
+</I>&gt;<i> Gold Deluxe Edition!
+</I>
+When will this version be available and what will it cost?
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+&gt;<i> To stop joking, I think there's a real interest about named version.
+</I>&gt;<i> when you search on the web for a specific probleme for your specifiec
+</I>&gt;<i> release, the results are more acurate.
+</I>
+I think not.
+Almost all usage, and lots of issues are same or similar on Mandriva 2010.0
+and 2010.1. You would find less help if they were named Thomas and Alicia...
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+Of they are numbered in sucession it is much easier to find.
+And yiu which one is elder without knowint their history.
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+Even as a sweede and car owner i can not tell in which order
+SAAB 9.3, 9.5, 90, 900 and 9000 was launced.
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+Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 12:27
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+&gt;<i> s/delayed/delayed or erased/.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not want to have the burden of manually approve 50 messages each
+</I>&gt;<i> day. While for the moment, I approves some of them and I can
+</I>&gt;<i> understand
+</I>&gt;<i> that people may do a error, if there is too much of them, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> prefer
+</I>&gt;<i> to use a strong incentive to make the user correct this after sending
+</I>&gt;<i> one or two warnings.
+</I>
+Well, that makes perfect sense, but OTOH you could whitelist the IP address
+of the dedicated mail server used by the ML&lt;&gt;forum gateway (it's a postfix
+install running on the same server as the forum and used ONLY for the
+forum&lt;&gt;ML gateway so whitelisting it wouldn't increase any spam risk).
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+Or if/when this gateway is on the future official forum, then all you would
+need to do is make mailman check the email address in LDAP, so people don't
+have to be needlessly subscribed to the list when they read it though the
+forum, it would be sufficient for them to be forum members (i.e.
+registered in LDAP).
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+So there are possible solutions that don't involve manual work for you and
+at the same time make the life easier for the users.
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+<PRE>Le 03/10/2010 14:13, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Den 2010-10-03 10:51:38 skrev chag:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To stop joking, I think there's a real interest about named version.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when you search on the web for a specific probleme for your specifiec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release, the results are more acurate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think not.
+</I>&gt;<i> Almost all usage, and lots of issues are same or similar on Mandriva 2010.0
+</I>&gt;<i> and 2010.1. You would find less help if they were named Thomas and Alicia...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of they are numbered in sucession it is much easier to find.
+</I>&gt;<i> And yiu which one is elder without knowint their history.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even as a sweede and car owner i can not tell in which order
+</I>&gt;<i> SAAB 9.3, 9.5, 90, 900 and 9000 was launced.
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+</I>Except if the name is coded, like cats and dogs name. The first letter
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+Ernst is one year older than Felix.
+The letter for 2010 is F.
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+&gt;<i> a) Erase Numlock service. Guys, that thing sucks!
+</I>[...]
+actually, this doesn't seem to work well, with KDE and multiple sessions. my
+wife constantly complains that the numlock light is on, but the numlock itself
+doesn't work, tapping numlock, switches the light to off, but disables numlock,
+tapping it again, turns numlock on + the numlock LED.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, so we could make everyone happy by using an numbered version plus a
+</I>&gt;<i> nickname (just like Ubunbtu does).
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+As long as the names are not the horrible, kitsch and embarrassing style
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+</I>&gt;<i> b) Offer support to dial-up softmodens. Many Brasilian distros offer it, but is
+</I>&gt;<i> a polemical point, since that many softmodens drivers (like PCTEL HSP56MR) are
+</I>&gt;<i> covered by a proprietary license. Despite ADSL-like connections increase, too
+</I>&gt;<i> many people still using dial-up connections nowadays and is know that Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> distros forgot this hardware compatibility.
+</I>
+Nice of you to point this out. Although the choice of modem should be
+the users' responsibility (winmodems are usually hard to configure), it
+is still a concern that maybe the Mageia group/dev's could maybe
+concentrate on? Maybe, making the steps to dial-up modems a little more
+&quot;user-friendly&quot;? None of the distros take this into account as Linux is
+usually considered best done at ADSL hookups.
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+Quote: marc wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 16:39
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+&gt;<i> Nice of you to point this out. Although the choice of modem should be
+</I>&gt;<i> the users' responsibility (winmodems are usually hard to configure)
+</I>
+With laptops it's unfortunately not the users' choice, unless the user adds
+an external modem in addition to the in-built winmodem (which wouldn't be
+ideal), so I agree, support for winmodem would be still very useful.
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+I have a laptop with winmodem and it actually works fine with Mandriva
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+&gt;<i> On 03/10/10 14:09, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hmm, so we could make everyone happy by using an numbered version plus a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nickname (just like Ubunbtu does).
+</I>
+Maybe names in alphabetical order,
+-so the name also functions as the enumeration itself;
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+Arthur
+Beatrice
+Ceasar
+...
+
+Or maybe use non-personal names, alpabetically
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+Ash (rising from it now ;) )
+Bush (coming from the wild...?)
+Cement (OK now the base is stable?)
+Destiny (heading there...)
+...
+
+Or periodical system by atom number
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+Hydrogen
+Helium
+...
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+&gt;<i> As long as the names are not the horrible, kitsch and embarrassing style
+</I>&gt;<i> names that Canonical use!
+</I>
+One extra step is to check with all communities that name does not mean
+something bad in any language or some persons name that some people hate, or
+is name of their god, hell, whatever.
+Periodical system should be easily OK i think...
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+ <I>Sun Oct 3 17:46:17 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>There is a single high-priority item for me: release-naming should
+support evaluation in a script: a single and not excessivly complicated
+regular expression should allow to detect whether a release is older or
+younger then a reference release. In case Mageia decides to name
+releases after the prophets figuring in the old testament, I would judge
+that this is too complicated (although you can certainly teach a script
+to know which prophet comes before another one).
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+&gt;<i> 2) Mirrors list
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll setup the promise web application (probably on distrib-coffee at time) + an
+</I>&gt;<i> svn read-only access to the code. The application is still limited, not
+</I>&gt;<i> beautifull but it can do the job of registering mirrors properly.
+</I>Maybe we could make this app be compatible with mirrorbrain[1], in
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+ <B>Denis MARCOUREL</B>
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+<PRE> Hello all,
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+I begin by apologizing for my bad English...
+
+Regarding the release cycle versions :
+1) We must first thinking of the developpers, and human and financial
+opportunities will define these cycles.
+2) Personally, I like the idea of a release every nine months, two for
+development and the third stable and maintained for X months or years.
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+For the versions' name :
+- &quot;Les go&#251;ts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas&quot; (in french in the
+text...) : those of development can have any name that is easy to
+manage, and the stable version should be salable. A good compromise can
+be, for example :
+=&gt; Mageia 2011 Mandrake, Mageia 2013 Sorceress, Mageia 2015 Houdini, ...
+(with the year and names or terms of magic).
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+And for the choice of desktop's environment and applications :
+- The means (human and technical) will decide. Best would be to put
+everything, but I think choices will be needed (at least for marketing
+with a possibly distribution for &quot;general public&quot;).
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+<PRE> On 10/03/2010 12:34 PM, Denis MARCOUREL wrote:
+&gt;<i> For the versions' name :
+</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;Les go&#251;ts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas&quot; (in french in the
+</I>&gt;<i> text...) : those of development can have any name that is easy to
+</I>&gt;<i> manage, and the stable version should be salable. A good compromise can
+</I>&gt;<i> be, for example :
+</I>&gt;<i> =&gt; Mageia 2011 Mandrake, Mageia 2013 Sorceress, Mageia 2015 Houdini, ...
+</I>&gt;<i> (with the year and names or terms of magic).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I think we have to avoid using &quot;Mandrake&quot; as there already was a problem
+with that in Mandriva...
+But other than that I like the naming convention. But I think release
+cycles should be different.
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+Linux development is much faster than two or three years ago, and having
+one release per 9 months might be too slow. I was thinking something
+like three times a year with dev releases in between. However; I think
+that if something is not ready to go in the main distro it shouldn't be
+pushed, so with tight scheduling features that are not ready are not
+going to be problematic to the end user.
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+&gt;<i> wife constantly complains that the numlock light is on, but the
+</I>&gt;<i> numlock itself doesn't work,
+</I>
+This is exactly the problem. Disabling this service, num lock led
+works correctly.
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+&gt;<i> maybe i should post a bugreport or something
+</I>
+Please do it!
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+&lt;a href=&quot;<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org">http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org</A> &lt;view-source:<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org">http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org</A>&gt;&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-">http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-</A>
+flickr.png &lt;view-source:<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-flickr.png">http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-flickr.png</A>&gt;&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
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+it must be
+&lt;a href=&quot;<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/</A> &lt;<A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/mageia_org">http://www.twitter.com/mageia_org</A>&gt;&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-">http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-</A>
+flickr.png &lt;view-source:<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-flickr.png">http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-flickr.png</A>&gt;&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
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+&gt;<i> With laptops it's unfortunately not the users' choice, unless the user adds
+</I>&gt;<i> an external modem in addition to the in-built winmodem (which wouldn't be
+</I>&gt;<i> ideal), so I agree, support for winmodem would be still very useful.
+</I>
+Not only laptops. Many lay users buy magazine PCs that come with this
+winmodens and don't know differences behind them and a hardmodem.
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+Also, I've seen bizarre things, like distros where the dialer is not installed
+and you need to download it from Internet. But how the user will download the
+dialer if the Internet does not work? No! Dial-up dialer should come installed
+as default.
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+Some softmodens are supported, such like these models:
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+<A HREF="http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem">http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem</A> [Sorry, Mandriva link is too long]
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+But the point is that the most, like PCTel, Lucent and Motorolla, has licenses
+that restrict distribution - so include these drivers on Mageia can be illegal
+- and some drivers requires compile a kernel module to work - what not aways
+works. To lay user, can be very difficult compile and load a kernel module. So,
+we must pay close attention to this bit detail. Too many users what doesn't use
+Linux can begin to use it if the distro has this support. Too many of them still
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+The URL is correct, it's empty now, but it's the mageia flickr account
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+(sorry for the typo mistake and the html format of the previous mail)
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+would you please correct this in the source of the blog : in the widget area
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+&lt;a href=&quot;<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org">http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org</A>&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-">http://blog.mageia.org/fr/wp-content/images/icon-</A>
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+it must be
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+sorry for the crossing mails...
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+&lt;The URL is correct, it's empty now, but it's the mageia flickr account
+&lt;that will be used later to upload pictures related to Mageia.
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+I thought it was an access to have a look to what pictures are proposed
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+<PRE>On Sunday 03 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive
+ from Renaud MICHEL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&gt; who wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Or periodical system by atom number
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hydrogen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Helium
+</I>
+&gt;<i> I like this one :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> And you are good for more than one hundred versions!
+</I>
+No, it will collapse in recriminations the day we reach &quot;Aluminium&quot;.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ God, I ask for patience.
+ And I want it right now!
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+there is always enough of those :) It will also relate to the fact that
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+&gt;&gt;<i> wife constantly complains that the numlock light is on, but the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> numlock itself doesn't work,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>This is exactly the problem. Disabling this service, num lock led
+</I>&gt;<i>works correctly.
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+Have you tried chkconfig --override wife ?
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+&gt;<i> On Sunday 03 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> from Renaud MICHEL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&gt; who wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Or periodical system by atom number
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hydrogen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Helium
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I like this one :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And you are good for more than one hundred versions!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, it will collapse in recriminations the day we reach &quot;Aluminium&quot;.
+</I>
+So we already are argueing ;)
+
+Getting serious,
+IMNSHO We should use international standards, and not fight
+about local variants.
+That also applies to date formats
+(i.e see <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601</A> for forums, whatever.
+
+The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC)
+adopted aluminium as the standard international name.
+(which is also used in many other languages other than english)
+Although alternate spellings are accepted, this is the standard.
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-03 13:02, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With laptops it's unfortunately not the users' choice, unless the user adds
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> an external modem in addition to the in-built winmodem (which wouldn't be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ideal), so I agree, support for winmodem would be still very useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not only laptops. Many lay users buy magazine PCs that come with this
+</I>&gt;<i> winmodens and don't know differences behind them and a hardmodem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, I've seen bizarre things, like distros where the dialer is not installed
+</I>&gt;<i> and you need to download it from Internet. But how the user will download the
+</I>&gt;<i> dialer if the Internet does not work? No! Dial-up dialer should come installed
+</I>&gt;<i> as default.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some softmodens are supported, such like these models:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem">http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem</A> [Sorry, Mandriva link is too long]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But the point is that the most, like PCTel, Lucent and Motorolla, has licenses
+</I>&gt;<i> that restrict distribution - so include these drivers on Mageia can be illegal
+</I>&gt;<i> - and some drivers requires compile a kernel module to work - what not aways
+</I>&gt;<i> works. To lay user, can be very difficult compile and load a kernel module. So,
+</I>&gt;<i> we must pay close attention to this bit detail. Too many users what doesn't use
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux can begin to use it if the distro has this support. Too many of them still
+</I>&gt;<i> with a dual boot Win-Linux because of this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Another good point. I don't believe that in the case of KDE, the kppp is
+installed by default. However, it is on the Mandriva installation disk.
+But I can see how this could be a little confusing for the new user.
+
+As for proprietary winmodem drivers, there is nothing that Mageia could
+really do as drivers are normally not allowed to be distributed by third
+parties. But, like you mention, some softmodems are supported. I guess
+it all depends on how lucky/unlucky you are when you buy your desktop or
+laptop computer. On the positive side however, the trend for major
+computer builders this year is that they have been moving away from
+&quot;windows&quot; only modem/ethernet cards. They are including more OS
+inclusive hardware. Although, I believe that this has also a lot to do
+with the Kernel version used by Mageia as some of the OSS drivers are
+included in the kernel.
+
+So to re-cap this wish:
+
+-- Mageia should be a little more sensitive to users who have telephone
+hookups by providing and installing the tools right at the very first
+install. There should be no downloading of software at all if you are
+setting up a dial-up connection in the MCC (Mageia Control Centre)
+
+-- Mageia should also try to be sensitive to the telephone hook-ups by
+including the necessary tools for installing winmodems/softmodems.
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-03 06:27, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 03 octobre 2010 &#224; 06:25 +0200, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you don't already have an automatically added userid on the forum,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then you can register as new user, but please make sure that you use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the SAME EMAIL ADDRESS as you used to subscribe to the mailing lists,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> otherwise your posts to the mailing list will need to be manually
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> approved by the Mageia mailing list admins, which means they will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be delayed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> s/delayed/delayed or erased/.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not want to have the burden of manually approve 50 messages each
+</I>&gt;<i> day. While for the moment, I approves some of them and I can understand
+</I>&gt;<i> that people may do a error, if there is too much of them, I will prefer
+</I>&gt;<i> to use a strong incentive to make the user correct this after sending
+</I>&gt;<i> one or two warnings.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If there were a way to streamline the approval process as Michael
+describes above, it would be a great way to cater to everyone's flavour
+of communication. It wouldn't matter is you used mailist, nntp, forums.
+The forum would just consolidate all the messages.
+
+I have been watching the threads and this is really cool. I have been
+using the Gmane so far, but for people who don't have access to the
+Gmane this is a very good option. For that matter, the Gmane almost
+becomes unnecessary.
+
+Nice work.
+
+Marc
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+<PRE>On dimanche 03 octobre 2010 at 14:16, Tux99 wrote :
+&gt;<i> Or if/when this gateway is on the future official forum, then all you
+</I>&gt;<i> would need to do is make mailman check the email address in LDAP, so
+</I>&gt;<i> people don't have to be needlessly subscribed to the list when they read
+</I>&gt;<i> it though the forum, it would be sufficient for them to be forum members
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+moderators of the forum), but with this gateway, their messages would be
+posted to the MLs with their email and they could get the surprise to have
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+&gt;<i> On 03/10/10 14:09, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hmm, so we could make everyone happy by using an numbered version plus a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nickname (just like Ubunbtu does).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As long as the names are not the horrible, kitsch and embarrassing style
+</I>&gt;<i> names that Canonical use!
+</I>
+Actually, Ubuntu's naming convention is perfect for their target market, there
+must be something right about it because it certainly hasn't hurt their market
+share.
+
+Besides which doing something because of a negative attitude is not a good
+idea. We should learn from there mistakes and make sure we don't repeat them
+rather than trying to avoid what was patently successful for them. :)
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+Cheers
+GL
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+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
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+<PRE>Op zondag 03 oktober 2010 18:47:09 schreef Andr&#233; Machado:
+&gt;<i> &gt; wife constantly complains that the numlock light is on, but the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; numlock itself doesn't work,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is exactly the problem. Disabling this service, num lock led
+</I>&gt;<i> works correctly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maybe i should post a bugreport or something
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please do it!
+</I>
+<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61187">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61187</A>
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+Hi all,
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+We've been (a few of us) hanging out in #mageia-uk, and the name of the
+channel has annoyed some folks from the Ukraine, who wanted that name.
+So, we have a nother (unofficial) channel now, called #mageia-gb.
+However, when we looked at the ISO country codes, we discover that
+Ukraine would actually be UA, and SE is Sweden, not the Sammi language,
+as some thought.
+
+SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography (two-letter
+country codes as per the ISO list here:
+<A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>). or by
+language (such as en-gb)?
+
+If we could nail this down right away, it would save much grief later.
+
+Cheers,
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+Patricia Fraser
+On the move
+Gnu/Linux 1997-2008 #283226 counter.li.org
+Dark Side - approach with caution
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+</I>&gt;<i> must be something right about it because it certainly hasn't hurt their market
+</I>&gt;<i> share.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides which doing something because of a negative attitude is not a good
+</I>&gt;<i> idea. We should learn from there mistakes and make sure we don't repeat them
+</I>&gt;<i> rather than trying to avoid what was patently successful for them. :)
+</I>
+I don't think it necessarily follows though that they are successful due
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>&lt;r.h.michel%<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">2Bmageia at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> but with this gateway, their messages would be
+</I>&gt;<i> posted to the MLs with their email
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Renaud Michel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>As far as I know, this is not the case.
+I posted a message from the test forum,
+<A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+and it appears 'normally' on the ML (the same as if I had posted on the ML)
+No private email to see.
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-03 15:12, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've been (a few of us) hanging out in #mageia-uk, and the name of the
+</I>&gt;<i> channel has annoyed some folks from the Ukraine, who wanted that name.
+</I>&gt;<i> So, we have a nother (unofficial) channel now, called #mageia-gb.
+</I>&gt;<i> However, when we looked at the ISO country codes, we discover that
+</I>&gt;<i> Ukraine would actually be UA, and SE is Sweden, not the Sammi language,
+</I>&gt;<i> as some thought.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography (two-letter
+</I>&gt;<i> country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>). or by
+</I>&gt;<i> language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we could nail this down right away, it would save much grief later.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+My opinion is that we should try to follow ISO convention where it is
+applicable. Therefore the IRC'S would be:
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+#mageia-gb for United Kingdom
+#mageia-ua for Ukraine
+
+The same should be applied for dates. We should also follow the date
+format as set out by the ISO.
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+Let's follow standards where they are established.
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+<PRE>Le 03/10/2010 06:25, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I have set up a test web forum with bidirectional gateway to the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia mailing lists.
+</I>&gt;<i> I did this primarily to test the forum&lt;&gt;ML gateway functionality
+</I>&gt;<i> with the hope that it will be also implemented in the future
+</I>&gt;<i> official Mageia forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yep this idea is really cool :)
+
+But we need to do this properly because on a huge forum
+and with very active lists moderators will go crazy...
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+And we must also think of people who will suscribe to lists
+but who will not be pleased to see their names and posts on a
+well known forum
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+Your contribution on this part will be really positive for mageia i think :)
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+For the while we need to test and improve it so that it's bulletproof
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+<PRE>Le 3 oct. 2010 &#224; 21:12, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography (two-letter
+</I>&gt;<i> country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>). or by
+</I>&gt;<i> language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>
+Depends what people join channels for: language or local acquaintances?
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+I would say we are going by language; that's what we will do for Web sites.
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-03 15:30, Robert Wood a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, Ubuntu's naming convention is perfect for their target
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> market, there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> must be something right about it because it certainly hasn't hurt
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> their market
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> share.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Besides which doing something because of a negative attitude is not a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> idea. We should learn from there mistakes and make sure we don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repeat them
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rather than trying to avoid what was patently successful for them. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think it necessarily follows though that they are successful due
+</I>&gt;<i> to that naming convention. They might do even better were it not so naff
+</I>&gt;<i> a scheme. ;~)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If anything that Ubuntu is good at, it is to market their brand. They
+make sure consistently that their name is in some kind of media corner,
+and, as often as possible. I also don't think that their naming
+convention has too much to do with this. It is mostly due to their
+marketing knowledge and timing.
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+<PRE>On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 21:40, Ma&#226;t &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But we need to do this properly because on a huge forum
+</I>&gt;<i> and with very active lists moderators will go crazy...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yes. I think there are many different ways to regulate the traffic of
+different lists. For example read only from the forum side for 'sensitive'
+lists.
+There must be a discussion to determine a structure of lists whith different
+properties such that the needs/desires of all participants (users,
+develppers, moderators, administrators ...) are met.
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+&gt;<i> And we must also think of people who will suscribe to lists
+</I>&gt;<i> but who will not be pleased to see their names and posts on a
+</I>&gt;<i> well known forum
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (the mls archives are far less attractive)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Your contribution on this part will be really positive for mageia i think
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the while we need to test and improve it so that it's bulletproof
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ma&#226;t
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>On 3 October 2010 20:32, Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 2010-10-03 13:02, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> With laptops it's unfortunately not the users' choice, unless the user
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> adds
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> an external modem in addition to the in-built winmodem (which wouldn't be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ideal), so I agree, support for winmodem would be still very useful.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not only laptops. Many lay users buy magazine PCs that come with this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> winmodens and don't know differences behind them and a hardmodem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, I've seen bizarre things, like distros where the dialer is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and you need to download it from Internet. But how the user will download
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dialer if the Internet does not work? No! Dial-up dialer should come
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some softmodens are supported, such like these models:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem">http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem</A> [Sorry, Mandriva link is too long]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But the point is that the most, like PCTel, Lucent and Motorolla, has
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> licenses
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that restrict distribution - so include these drivers on Mageia can be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> illegal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - and some drivers requires compile a kernel module to work - what not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> aways
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> works. To lay user, can be very difficult compile and load a kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> module. So,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we must pay close attention to this bit detail. Too many users what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Linux can begin to use it if the distro has this support. Too many of them
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with a dual boot Win-Linux because of this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another good point. I don't believe that in the case of KDE, the kppp is
+</I>&gt;<i> installed by default. However, it is on the Mandriva installation disk. But
+</I>&gt;<i> I can see how this could be a little confusing for the new user.
+</I>
+kppp is suggested by kdenetwork4, so it'll be installed in a default install.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; but with this gateway, their messages would be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; posted to the MLs with their email
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as I know, this is not the case.
+</I>&gt;<i> I posted a message from the test forum,
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> and it appears 'normally' on the ML (the same as if I had posted on the
+</I>&gt;<i> ML) No private email to see.
+</I>
+But you are already registered to this ML, so this is not a problem.
+But if someone register only on the forum, does the messages they post (and
+which are subject to moderation actually) on the forum is also posted on the
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+If so, then their email will be posted to the ML while they might be
+thinking it was only used internally by the forum and not posted anywhere.
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+On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 21:43:15 +0200
+Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le 3 oct. 2010 &#224; 21:12, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography (two-letter
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>). or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; by language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends what people join channels for: language or local
+</I>&gt;<i> acquaintances?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would say we are going by language; that's what we will do for Web
+</I>&gt;<i> sites.
+</I>
+In our case it was a local support channel for UK users, so it's
+geographic - could we support a mixture, so use the iso code for
+language if the channel is for language, but where there's a conflict
+fall back on the long form (such as en-gb)?
+
+We might have language stuff going on, but we also want to organise
+events and support local user groups, so it's really geographic in our
+case.
+
+Cheers,
+
+- --
+Patricia Fraser
+On the move
+Gnu/Linux 1997-2008 #283226 counter.li.org
+Dark Side - approach with caution
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+</I>&gt;<i> But you are already registered to this ML, so this is not a problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> But if someone register only on the forum, does the messages they post (and
+</I>&gt;<i> which are subject to moderation actually) on the forum is also posted on the
+</I>&gt;<i> ML with the email they registered to the forum?
+</I>
+Only if they post a message in that forum section which is a gateway
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+&gt;<i> On Monday 04 Oct 2010 02:56:41 Robert Wood wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/10/10 14:09, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hmm, so we could make everyone happy by using an numbered version plus a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; nickname (just like Ubunbtu does).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As long as the names are not the horrible, kitsch and embarrassing style
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> names that Canonical use!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, Ubuntu's naming convention is perfect for their target market, there
+</I>&gt;<i> must be something right about it because it certainly hasn't hurt their market
+</I>&gt;<i> share.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides which doing something because of a negative attitude is not a good
+</I>&gt;<i> idea. &#160;We should learn from there mistakes and make sure we don't repeat them
+</I>&gt;<i> rather than trying to avoid what was patently successful for them. &#160;:)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> GL
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Graham Lauder,
+</I>&gt;<i> OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> INGOTs Assessor Trainer
+</I>&gt;<i> (International Grades in Open Technologies)
+</I>&gt;<i> www.theingots.org
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Personally I like the tongue-in-cheek names in the Linux world (e.g.
+cat, dog, grep). Developers don't necessarily need to be a bunch of
+uptight code hackers... :)
+
+However I don't follow the ubuntu news that closely (but Opaque Okapi
+does sound nice, somehow rhymes with Obi-Wan Kenobi).
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-03 15:43, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 3 oct. 2010 &#224; 21:12, Patricia Fraser&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography (two-letter
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>). or by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends what people join channels for: language or local acquaintances?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would say we are going by language; that's what we will do for Web sites.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Could we follow conventional schemes such as:
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+ISO Country codes as found here:
+<A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A> --
+normally 2 letter code
+
+ISO Language codes as found here: <A HREF="http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp">http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp</A>
+-- normally 3 letter code for language (or you could also use the
+<A HREF="http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php">http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php</A> -- also 3 letter
+code)
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+At least we would be follow standardized nomenclature schemes.
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+Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le 2010-10-03 15:12, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hash: SHA1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We've been (a few of us) hanging out in #mageia-uk, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; name of the channel has annoyed some folks from the Ukraine,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; who wanted that name. So, we have a nother (unofficial) channel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; now, called #mageia-gb. However, when we looked at the ISO
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; country codes, we discover that Ukraine would actually be UA,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and SE is Sweden, not the Sammi language, as some thought.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (two-letter country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; or by language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If we could nail this down right away, it would save much grief
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; later.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My opinion is that we should try to follow ISO convention where
+</I>&gt;<i> it is applicable. Therefore the IRC'S would be:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-gb for United Kingdom
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-ua for Ukraine
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The same should be applied for dates. We should also follow the
+</I>&gt;<i> date format as set out by the ISO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's follow standards where they are established.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Using gb for the United Kingdom would possibly be politically
+dangerous, which is why UK websites are .co.uk .org.uk etc and
+not .co.gb .org.gb etc.
+
+The full name of our country is the &quot;United Kingdom of Great Britain
+&amp; Northern Ireland&quot; - using the GB code is offensive to people from
+Northern Ireland, because Northern Ireland is a valued part of the
+United Kingdom but is NOT part of Great Britain.
+
+As IRC is an internet service, I suggest we stay with UK for the
+United Kingdom (to match our websites) and Ukraine should be UA.
+
+--
+Margot
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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+</I>&gt;<i> kppp is suggested by kdenetwork4, so it'll be installed in a default install.
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+Thanks Ahmad. I wasn't aware that it was added by default now. Makes
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+&gt;<i> On Saturday 02 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive
+</I>&gt;<i> from Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; who wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You want more releases per year?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, I question whether we should be iron-bound to a fixed number, of whether
+</I>&gt;<i> we should wheel out a new release when it is ready and fit for consumption.
+</I>
+No one make sure the release is ready without deadline. If we don't say
+&quot;we release on $release_date&quot;, people will still continue to upload
+packages as usual.
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+Now, if you want a release process like debian, I think you can simply use debian. Of course,
+it has its flaws ( like being long to actually do a release, go out with slightly outdated software
+that do not suit everybody, and produce lots of flamewar of the &quot;readyness&quot; of the distribution ).
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 &#224; 12:46 +0200, Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Oh, and this is why I have suggested from time to time to break noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; out of arch trees, so:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; SRPMS
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; i586
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; would turn into:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; SRPMS
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; i586
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We can simply do a hardlink for this, so no space is wasted and no need
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to have different directory ( of course, the hardlink must be done maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is already the case, didn't check ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, noarch are supposed to be hardlinked already.
+</I>&gt;<i> But it could make the upload process simpler to have noarch in a
+</I>&gt;<i> separate directory (no need to hardlink to all arches), and genhdlist2
+</I>&gt;<i> faster (by splitting out a noarch hdlist).
+</I>
+But this requires all arch to be synced.
+While we achieved this for x86 and x86_64, this was not the case in the
+past for sparc and ppc. Given the fact that arm is surely gonna play a
+important role, what would be the impact on various non synced ports of
+Mageia, if any ?
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 3 octobre 2010 06:25:58, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I have set up a test web forum with bidirectional gateway to the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia mailing lists.
+</I>&gt;<i> I did this primarily to test the forum&lt;&gt;ML gateway functionality
+</I>&gt;<i> with the hope that it will be also implemented in the future
+</I>&gt;<i> official Mageia forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This forum ML gateway is in no way meant to preempt or compete with
+</I>&gt;<i> the future official forum, on the contrary once the official forum is
+</I>&gt;<i> up and running (hopefully with equivalent functionality), I expect
+</I>&gt;<i> to shutdown this test forum again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The forum has already been filling up with posts since Friday
+</I>&gt;<i> afternoon, and it also creates automatically a forum user for every
+</I>&gt;<i> unique email address of senders of mailing list posts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Therefore if you have posted on the mailing lists in the past couple
+</I>&gt;<i> of days, you will find that you already have a forum userid.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to make use of it, go to the forum login page, enter
+</I>&gt;<i> your email address (the same one you use for the mailing lists!),
+</I>&gt;<i> click on &quot;forgot password&quot; and wait to receive an email for the
+</I>&gt;<i> password reset procedure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once you have your password you can login and post messages in the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list forums, which then will also be posted to the mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> lists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you only want to use the forum to read the mailing list posts,
+</I>&gt;<i> then of course you don't need to register/login at all.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please notice that the FIRST post for each user from the forum to the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing lists takes about 5 minutes to get through, this is because
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia mailing lists have grey-listing active to avoid spam.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you don't already have an automatically added userid on the forum,
+</I>&gt;<i> then you can register as new user, but please make sure that you use
+</I>&gt;<i> the SAME EMAIL ADDRESS as you used to subscribe to the mailing lists,
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise your posts to the mailing list will need to be manually
+</I>&gt;<i> approved by the Mageia mailing list admins, which means they will
+</I>&gt;<i> be delayed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also to avoid spammers, every new user registration on the forum
+</I>&gt;<i> requires moderator (that would be me :) approval, so it can take
+</I>&gt;<i> up to 24 hours (but usually much less).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the direct link to the forum members pages, look here to
+</I>&gt;<i> see if you already have a userid:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=finduser&amp;usr_login=&amp;u">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=finduser&amp;usr_login=&amp;u</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> s=2&amp;btn_submit=Find
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The forum main page is here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Myself and a few others have been testing the forum in the last few
+</I>&gt;<i> days, so I can say it's stable and works well, but of course it hasn't
+</I>&gt;<i> been tested under heavy load yet, so please be gentle... :)
+</I>&gt;<i> (this forum is running on a relatively low power rented virtual server
+</I>&gt;<i> so don't expect great performance under heavy load)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you have any problems with the forum itself, please post them in
+</I>&gt;<i> the dedicated sub-forum called &quot;Forum discussion&quot;, don't post them
+</I>&gt;<i> here on the Mageia ML as it would be off topic.
+</I>&gt;<i> This sub-forum is obviously not replicated on any Mageia mailing list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope it will be useful for those of us who prefer a web forum rather
+</I>&gt;<i> than mailing lists, but still want to partecipate in the mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> discussions!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi there
+
+Well, that's a great job, really, nice to see such a thing is possible.
+
+However i would like to point something very important for me, forum users are
+quite different from ML users.
+
+In fact, throught this system we face one goal of Mageia. Will it be a
+distribution for &quot;developers&quot; or for &quot;end-users&quot; (well i know developers are
+also end-users). End-users, well just users may come from Windows (i hope we
+will attract some to the good side of the force :D ) and they feels a forum
+must easier than a ML. Just look at rules on the ML here, no html, no top
+posting, just quote well are things that needs to use mail correctly. And just
+use mail correctly is sometimes hard for just users. I do not work in
+computing and i just see how computers are seen, how they are used and how
+theses 3 rules would be hard to use. No HTML ? well i guess few users (outside
+those working in computing) knows how to do it, no top posting ... ouch quite
+impossible, quote well ... hum what do you calll quoting ?
+
+Let's face it, ML is a tool for developers not a tool for users. As a user i
+do prefer forums, on one topic i can have the full discussion no need to
+navigate between mails, there are colors, it is (or it give the feeling) more
+attractive and newbies or users will prefer using forums. That's the same
+thing between using GUI or CLI, i know CLI is powerful, faster, very efficient,
+but for users GUI is better, they feel at ease when using their mouse to point
+and click, validate.
+
+I have also praticed a lot web forum, and a very little usenet and it is also
+two differents audience. Anyone here on alt.os.linux.mandriva (hum yes Marc
+Par&#233; is on) ?
+
+So, even if there is a good tool to have a bidirectional Gateway between ML
+and web forum i don't think we will meet efficiency with it. The best way for me
+is to have these different tools since they have different audiences, some of us
+will be on both tools but most will use just one.
+
+--
+Olivier M&#233;jean
+Pr&#233;sident de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux
+<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A>
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+<PRE>Margot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">margot at otfordduckscomputers.co.uk</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-10-03
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; (two-letter country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; or by language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My opinion is that we should try to follow ISO convention where
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is applicable. Therefore the IRC'S would be:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; #mageia-gb for United Kingdom
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; #mageia-ua for Ukraine
+</I>
+I don't know if we do need channels for geographic locations. E.g. there is a
+channel #mageia-de which - in my opinion is for all people speaking German. I
+don't think separate channels for Germans, Austrians and Swiss would make
+sense.
+The reason for having those &quot;sub channels&quot; is, that people can speak in their
+own language...
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+<PRE>Le 3 oct. 2010 &#224; 22:05, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 21:43:15 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 3 oct. 2010 &#224; 21:12, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography (two-letter
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>). or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> by language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Depends what people join channels for: language or local
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> acquaintances? [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In our case it was a local support channel for UK users, so it's
+</I>&gt;<i> geographic - could we support a mixture, so use the iso code for
+</I>&gt;<i> language if the channel is for language, but where there's a conflict
+</I>&gt;<i> fall back on the long form (such as en-gb)?
+</I>
+After reading Marc's suggestion, maybe:
+ - keeping the 2 letters ISO format for locales (ie #mageia-fr for French, #mageia-en-gb for British English etc.),
+ - using full country name for local-based channels (ie #mageia-france, #mageia-greatbritain)
+
+could a solution? (although it makes for longer channel names).
+
+Using two letters code for country and 3 letters code for languages would be more confusing.
+
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Actually, Ubuntu's naming convention is perfect for their target market,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there must be something right about it because it certainly hasn't hurt
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; their market share.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Besides which doing something because of a negative attitude is not a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; good idea. We should learn from there mistakes and make sure we don't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; repeat them rather than trying to avoid what was patently successful for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; them. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think it necessarily follows though that they are successful due
+</I>&gt;<i> to that naming convention. They might do even better were it not so naff
+</I>&gt;<i> a scheme. ;~)
+</I>
+That is your opinion, and of course unprovable.
+
+I remember when I first saw it I thought Cooooool somebody is going away from
+boring bloody decimals and numbers, people got a laugh out of it.
+
+The simple fact that it has got you focused on it means it was successful.
+
+In it's target market 18 - 35 yr old it was very successful, it got a buzz
+going, people trying to figure out what next, the mail lists fill with
+suggestions for the next funky name. (My personal favourite was Warty Warthog
+and I actually installed it. Too bad the I didn't like the interface and I
+dumped it after a week or two.)
+
+Ubuntu wanted to look funky and youthful and a little bit rebellious, they
+succeeded, good marketing. They targeted a market that was open to change to
+establish a credible User Base. It was also good marketing to later shift
+focus to numbering to broaden their market into more conservative space
+
+The point was that Ubuntu had a marketing plan right at the start. They had
+defined targets and geared the look, naming convention and branding for that
+market. There was a lot of complaining from other Distros that Ubuntu stole
+market share from them rather than MS and it was true, but instead of doing
+something about it most just cried into their beer. However it is also true
+that Ubuntu has taken more market share from MS than any other distro.
+
+When observing a marketing policy, you have to look past your own emotional
+response and try to see what the Marketer were trying to do. You may not
+agree with it or like it but what they did was successful, certainly more so
+than Mandriva.
+
+Cheers
+GL
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+&gt;<i> Margot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">margot at otfordduckscomputers.co.uk</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-10-03
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; (two-letter country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; or by language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; My opinion is that we should try to follow ISO convention where
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; it is applicable. Therefore the IRC'S would be:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; #mageia-gb for United Kingdom
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; #mageia-ua for Ukraine
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if we do need channels for geographic locations. E.g. there is
+</I>&gt;<i> a
+</I>&gt;<i> channel #mageia-de which - in my opinion is for all people speaking German.
+</I>&gt;<i> I
+</I>&gt;<i> don't think separate channels for Germans, Austrians and Swiss would make
+</I>&gt;<i> sense.
+</I>&gt;<i> The reason for having those &quot;sub channels&quot; is, that people can speak in
+</I>&gt;<i> their
+</I>&gt;<i> own language...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Well, I think UK is a somewhat special case : english is the language for
+'everybody', so any 'local' conversation is submerged. Other laguages don't
+have that problem to that extent.
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+&gt;<i> On 3 October 2010 20:57, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Monday 04 Oct 2010 02:56:41 Robert Wood wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 03/10/10 14:09, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Hmm, so we could make everyone happy by using an numbered version plus
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; a nickname (just like Ubunbtu does).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As long as the names are not the horrible, kitsch and embarrassing style
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; names that Canonical use!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Actually, Ubuntu's naming convention is perfect for their target market,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there must be something right about it because it certainly hasn't hurt
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; their market share.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Besides which doing something because of a negative attitude is not a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; good idea. We should learn from there mistakes and make sure we don't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; repeat them rather than trying to avoid what was patently successful for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; them. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; GL
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Graham Lauder,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; INGOTs Assessor Trainer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (International Grades in Open Technologies)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; www.theingots.org
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally I like the tongue-in-cheek names in the Linux world (e.g.
+</I>&gt;<i> cat, dog, grep). Developers don't necessarily need to be a bunch of
+</I>&gt;<i> uptight code hackers... :)
+</I>
+Exactly, Linux has always been a little bit zany, I always love the kernel
+warnings: &quot;Oops I made a screwup&quot; is much better than &quot;Error&quot;
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However I don't follow the ubuntu news that closely (but Opaque Okapi
+</I>&gt;<i> does sound nice, somehow rhymes with Obi-Wan Kenobi).
+</I>
+LOL Cool, that is a tonque twister, a lot of spitting going on.
+
+Cheers
+GL
+
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 22:49, Oliver Burger
+</I>&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; I don't know if we do need channels for geographic locations. E.g. there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; channel #mageia-de which - in my opinion is for all people speaking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; German. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; don't think separate channels for Germans, Austrians and Swiss would make
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sense.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The reason for having those &quot;sub channels&quot; is, that people can speak in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; their
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; own language...
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I think UK is a somewhat special case : english is the language for
+</I>&gt;<i> 'everybody', so any 'local' conversation is submerged. Other laguages don't
+</I>&gt;<i> have that problem to that extent.
+</I>
+Agreed,
+ but what about the Republic of Ireland? And other countries speaking English
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+<PRE>On dimanche 03 octobre 2010 at 22:09, Wolfgang Bornath wrote :
+&gt;<i> &gt; But you are already registered to this ML, so this is not a problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But if someone register only on the forum, does the messages they post
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (and which are subject to moderation actually) on the forum is also
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; posted on the ML with the email they registered to the forum?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Only if they post a message in that forum section which is a gateway
+</I>&gt;<i> to the ML. So they know that they are posting to a ML.
+</I>
+OK, but as this would be targeted (also) to people that are not familiar
+with MLs, it should be made very clear that the message will be cross-posted
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, noarch are supposed to be hardlinked already.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But it could make the upload process simpler to have noarch in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> separate directory (no need to hardlink to all arches), and genhdlist2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> faster (by splitting out a noarch hdlist).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this requires all arch to be synced.
+</I>&gt;<i> While we achieved this for x86 and x86_64, this was not the case in the
+</I>&gt;<i> past for sparc and ppc. Given the fact that arm is surely gonna play a
+</I>&gt;<i> important role, what would be the impact on various non synced ports of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia, if any ?
+</I>
+Why would they be unsynced?
+If we have a separate directory for noarch, it could be shared by all
+arches, which means there would be no such unsync issue.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is your opinion, and of course unprovable.
+</I>
+Same as yours.
+
+You write a lot about how the naming and the colors ate away market
+shares. I never ever heard any Ubuntu user (nor even fan boys at
+events) talking about names or colors when describing the benefits of
+their distribution. Oh, and BTW: Ubuntu changed colors because a lot
+of Ubuntu users did not like the colors - how could they have been
+attracted by colors they don't like and want to be changed?
+
+What Ubuntu did very well and what made their success is based on 3
+parts (and I do not mean lots of money to win tenders in the business
+world):
+
+1. Give the users the illusion that it is their distribution and that
+it is what they are doing, not some company far away. With all
+appearances, all speeches and all publications Shuttleworth gave out
+one message: Ubuntu is you, you are Ubuntu. That was the top reason he
+succeeded to build a critical mass of organised users who became the
+most valued asset - a cost free PR system.
+
+2. Ubuntu lets people download ISOs just as all the others. But it
+also sends you CDs for free - I tried that once and 10 CDs were
+delivered to my door within 3 days. For new users this is far more
+attractive than any downloadable - what's it called, ISO?.
+
+3. PR, PR, PR, PR and then again PR. The media, print and web were
+flooded with PRs from Canonical, from local user organisations, etc.
+Ubuntu succeeded to have their name hammered into the attention of
+website and magazine readers, even non-IT media. Once started this is
+a runner.
+
+None of this is related to the color or some names. Ubuntu would have
+the same success, not one user less if they had never thought of those
+names.
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+
+When Mageia Association have the sufficient financial resources, won't it can
+make an agreement for these drivers deployment with yours manufacturers?
+
+[PS: Gmane captcha: infringements ;) ]
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+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yes, noarch are supposed to be hardlinked already.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; But it could make the upload process simpler to have noarch in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; separate directory (no need to hardlink to all arches), and genhdlist2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; faster (by splitting out a noarch hdlist).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But this requires all arch to be synced.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; While we achieved this for x86 and x86_64, this was not the case in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; past for sparc and ppc. Given the fact that arm is surely gonna play a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; important role, what would be the impact on various non synced ports of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia, if any ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why would they be unsynced?
+</I>&gt;<i> If we have a separate directory for noarch, it could be shared by all
+</I>&gt;<i> arches, which means there would be no such unsync issue.
+</I>
+The problem will occurs if new noarch come from i586/x86_64 whereas
+another arch is no longer updated. Some dependencies will get broken
+between noarch &lt;=&gt; arch rpms (foo -arch- requires bar = 1 -noarch- and
+bar get update to version 2 for exemple).
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
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+&gt;<i> Margot&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">margot at otfordduckscomputers.co.uk</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-10-03
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (two-letter country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or by language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My opinion is that we should try to follow ISO convention where
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it is applicable. Therefore the IRC'S would be:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> #mageia-gb for United Kingdom
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> #mageia-ua for Ukraine
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if we do need channels for geographic locations. E.g. there is a
+</I>&gt;<i> channel #mageia-de which - in my opinion is for all people speaking German. I
+</I>&gt;<i> don't think separate channels for Germans, Austrians and Swiss would make
+</I>&gt;<i> sense.
+</I>&gt;<i> The reason for having those &quot;sub channels&quot; is, that people can speak in their
+</I>&gt;<i> own language...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Here in South Africa, we have Both English and Afrikaans users, never
+mind the other 9 out of the 11 official languages we have.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, but as this would be targeted (also) to people that are not familiar
+</I>&gt;<i> with MLs, it should be made very clear that the message will be cross-posted
+</I>&gt;<i> with their email.
+</I>
+Yes, that's only a question of placement in the forum.
+
+Let's take the international Mandriva forum as example. You have
+several categories like Announcements, Community Chat, etc. You create
+a new category &quot;Mailing List Gateway&quot; where you have the various ML
+parts like in the test forum of tux99. Only those messages a user
+posts in there will be sent to the MLs, it's easy to put a describing
+sticky on top which explains what's it all about.
+
+I do not see the problems Olivier mentioned. For one there can not be
+top posting in the forum display. Same with HTML - there is no choice
+in the forum if you disable usage of BBCode in those ML sections. The
+messages will be sent in plain text to the ML.
+
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 03 octobre 2010 &#224; 22:59 +0200, Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yes, noarch are supposed to be hardlinked already.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; But it could make the upload process simpler to have noarch in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; separate directory (no need to hardlink to all arches), and genhdlist2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; faster (by splitting out a noarch hdlist).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But this requires all arch to be synced.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; While we achieved this for x86 and x86_64, this was not the case in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; past for sparc and ppc. Given the fact that arm is surely gonna play a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; important role, what would be the impact on various non synced ports of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia, if any ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why would they be unsynced?
+</I>
+Well, mainly because we traditionally did like this, as I said. I guess
+I was not clear :/
+
+&gt;<i> If we have a separate directory for noarch, it could be shared by all
+</I>&gt;<i> arches, which means there would be no such unsync issue.
+</I>
+We have 2 choices :
+- all arch synced ( ie, x86 and x86_64 for now, likely arm and others in
+the future )
+- main archs synced, others possibly unsynced ( either the time to be
+ported, or more &quot;permanently&quot; ).
+
+In the past, we did it the secund way. Arm was ported from stable
+release, ppc, sparc were develop as side arch, etc.
+
+Since arm buildbots may be slower than x86 builder, using solution 1
+( everything synced ) can cause trouble. Noarch rpm will be synced, but
+since some noarch depend on arch dependent rpms ( like python modules
+who depend on the version of python, or packages who produces
+arch-dependent and noarch rpms ), we will need to keep also binary rpm
+in sync.
+So that mean we will have to wait on the slower builder before
+uploading. Think of open office, for example.
+
+So if we want to offer cauldron arm, how will we do ?
+And if we do, would this impact the proposed layout ?
+
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+Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Frederic Janssens &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fjanss at gmail.com</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-10-03
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 22:49, Oliver Burger
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I don't know if we do need channels for geographic locations.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; E.g. there is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; channel #mageia-de which - in my opinion is for all people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; speaking German. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; don't think separate channels for Germans, Austrians and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Swiss would make sense.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The reason for having those &quot;sub channels&quot; is, that people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; can speak in their
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; own language...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well, I think UK is a somewhat special case : english is the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; language for 'everybody', so any 'local' conversation is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; submerged. Other laguages don't have that problem to that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; extent.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed,
+</I>&gt;<i> but what about the Republic of Ireland? And other countries
+</I>&gt;<i> speaking English as their native language?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+We wanted our own UK channel so we could organise the physical
+presence of Mageia promotors at events in the UK, and also for
+discussing problems relating to UK-specific hardware &amp; services.
+
+I can see no reason why there couldn't be a channel for IE, US, CA,
+NZ, AU and other English-speaking countries as well if they have
+people who want to organise local activity in their countries - we
+have taken the lead, it's up to people in those other countries to
+decide if they want to follow our example.
+
+--
+Margot
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+<PRE>* Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+I did some work this Week-end:
+
+&gt;<i> 1) Seting up rsync.mageia.org
+</I>
+Done. Nothing really interesting to say except the current setup is
+temporary.
+
+&gt;<i> 2) Mirrors list
+</I>
+The application is availlable here:
+<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/mageia-mirrors/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/mageia-mirrors/</A>
+
+The svn can be fetch here:
+<A HREF="http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/mgamirrors/">http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/mgamirrors/</A>
+
+Short FAQ:
+
+* the application need css and some html improvement:
+ =&gt; patch welcome
+
+* some features are missing
+ =&gt; yes, I know
+
+Comment welcome.
+
+&gt;<i> 3) Our First Tier1 (distrib-coffee)
+</I>
+Done:
+<A HREF="rsync://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/mageia/">rsync://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/mageia/</A>
+
+You can already try to setup a mageia mirror over this URL.
+
+The mageia_timestamp file is updated every 5 minutes on rsync.mageia,
+distrib-coffee perform synchronisation every 20 minutes.
+
+Think to register your mirror :)
+
+&gt;<i> 4) Documentation
+</I>
+A start is done:
+<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/mirror.readme">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/mirror.readme</A>
+
+Patch welcome.
+
+Regards.
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
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+Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le 3 oct. 2010 &#224; 22:05, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 21:43:15 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le 3 oct. 2010 &#224; 21:12, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; SO, what we need to know is: are we going by geography
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; (two-letter country codes as per the ISO list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements">http://www.iso.org/iso/english_country_names_and_code_elements</A>).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; or by language (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Depends what people join channels for: language or local
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; acquaintances? [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In our case it was a local support channel for UK users, so it's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; geographic - could we support a mixture, so use the iso code for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; language if the channel is for language, but where there's a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; conflict fall back on the long form (such as en-gb)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After reading Marc's suggestion, maybe:
+</I>&gt;<i> - keeping the 2 letters ISO format for locales (ie #mageia-fr
+</I>&gt;<i> for French, #mageia-en-gb for British English etc.),
+</I>&gt;<i> - using full country name for local-based channels (ie
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-france, #mageia-greatbritain)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> could a solution? (although it makes for longer channel names).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Using two letters code for country and 3 letters code for
+</I>&gt;<i> languages would be more confusing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain.
+</I>
+Please read my other posts - #mageia-unitedkingdom would be OK,
+#mageia-greatbritain would NOT!
+
+--
+Margot
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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+We teach, you learn...
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+<PRE>On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 22:40, Olivier M&#233;jean &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">omejean at yahoo.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 3 octobre 2010 06:25:58, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I hope it will be useful for those of us who prefer a web forum rather
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; than mailing lists, but still want to partecipate in the mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; discussions!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that's a great job, really, nice to see such a thing is possible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However i would like to point something very important for me, forum users
+</I>&gt;<i> are
+</I>&gt;<i> quite different from ML users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact, throught this system we face one goal of Mageia. Will it be a
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution for &quot;developers&quot; or for &quot;end-users&quot; (well i know developers
+</I>&gt;<i> are
+</I>&gt;<i> also end-users).
+</I>
+
+I thought the aim was to be a community distribution, so ideally it would be
+for both.
+
+End-users, well just users may come from Windows (i hope we
+&gt;<i> will attract some to the good side of the force :D ) and they feels a forum
+</I>&gt;<i> must easier than a ML. Just look at rules on the ML here, no html, no top
+</I>&gt;<i> posting, just quote well are things that needs to use mail correctly. And
+</I>&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;<i> use mail correctly is sometimes hard for just users. I do not work in
+</I>&gt;<i> computing and i just see how computers are seen, how they are used and how
+</I>&gt;<i> theses 3 rules would be hard to use. No HTML ? well i guess few users
+</I>&gt;<i> (outside
+</I>&gt;<i> those working in computing) knows how to do it, no top posting ... ouch
+</I>&gt;<i> quite
+</I>&gt;<i> impossible, quote well ... hum what do you calll quoting ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The advantage of a forum, for these problems, is that there is only one
+interface : the forum, and the administrator can configure it as much as he
+wants (or is able).
+So : no HTML is decide by the administrator, not by the 'end user'.
+(I just saw that 'wobo' explained it better than I do)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's face it, ML is a tool for developers not a tool for users.
+</I>
+
+That's just the reason for the gateway : to provide a way to communicate
+between users and developpers : developers usually hate forums, end-users
+usually are unable to use ML's properly.
+The fear has allready been expressed that if we open that communication
+channel, developers will be flooded.
+That is a real problem, and I think we have to use (existing, and eventually
+new) tools to limit that problem.
+
+
+As a user i
+&gt;<i> do prefer forums, on one topic i can have the full discussion no need to
+</I>&gt;<i> navigate between mails, there are colors, it is (or it give the feeling)
+</I>&gt;<i> more
+</I>&gt;<i> attractive and newbies or users will prefer using forums. That's the same
+</I>&gt;<i> thing between using GUI or CLI, i know CLI is powerful, faster, very
+</I>&gt;<i> efficient,
+</I>&gt;<i> but for users GUI is better, they feel at ease when using their mouse to
+</I>&gt;<i> point
+</I>&gt;<i> and click, validate.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have also praticed a lot web forum, and a very little usenet and it is
+</I>&gt;<i> also
+</I>&gt;<i> two differents audience. Anyone here on alt.os.linux.mandriva (hum yes Marc
+</I>&gt;<i> Par&#233; is on) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, even if there is a good tool to have a bidirectional Gateway between ML
+</I>&gt;<i> and web forum i don't think we will meet efficiency with it. The best way
+</I>&gt;<i> for me
+</I>&gt;<i> is to have these different tools since they have different audiences,
+</I>
+
+How can you have a community if you have no means to communicate ?
+(Off topic example : I am belgian, Belgium is in danger of disintegrating
+because (amongst other factors) there are 2 'public opinions' with 2
+different languages, that do not communicate : there are no common mass
+media)
+
+
+&gt;<i> some of us
+</I>&gt;<i> will be on both tools but most will use just one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes but it is better to manage a communication problem, rather than just
+make sure that communication is very hard, so you can ignore the problem.
+
+I hope I don't come across as too opiniated.
+These communication problems are universal. I just think that Mageia is in a
+position to do better, because it can manage it's tools. And that it could
+greatly benefit by doing it.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>&gt;<i> Pr&#233;sident de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> twitter : obagoom
+</I>&gt;<i> identi.ca : goom
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+<PRE>2010/10/3 Margot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">margot at otfordduckscomputers.co.uk</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can see no reason why there couldn't be a channel for IE, US, CA,
+</I>&gt;<i> NZ, AU and other English-speaking countries as well if they have
+</I>&gt;<i> people who want to organise local activity in their countries - we
+</I>&gt;<i> have taken the lead, it's up to people in those other countries to
+</I>&gt;<i> decide if they want to follow our example.
+</I>
+No problem, but that should not collide with the overall system. If we
+have the language order in IRC channels like mageia-fr, mageia-de,
+etc. then we should have mageia-en as the main english channel. For
+local use there could be mageia-en-uk or whatever as a subsection of
+&quot;en&quot;. If users of Switzerland want to have their local channel they
+could take mageia-de-ch, as example. This will not break the overall
+system.
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 03 octobre 2010 &#224; 21:12 +0000, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Marc,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When Mageia Association have the sufficient financial resources, won't it can
+</I>&gt;<i> make an agreement for these drivers deployment with yours manufacturers?
+</I>
+Well, how much is &quot;sufficient financial resources&quot; ?
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+<PRE>Olivier Thauvin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt; writes:
+
+&gt;<i> * Olivier Blin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at blino.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yes, noarch are supposed to be hardlinked already.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; But it could make the upload process simpler to have noarch in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; separate directory (no need to hardlink to all arches), and genhdlist2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; faster (by splitting out a noarch hdlist).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; But this requires all arch to be synced.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; While we achieved this for x86 and x86_64, this was not the case in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; past for sparc and ppc. Given the fact that arm is surely gonna play a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; important role, what would be the impact on various non synced ports of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia, if any ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why would they be unsynced?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If we have a separate directory for noarch, it could be shared by all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> arches, which means there would be no such unsync issue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem will occurs if new noarch come from i586/x86_64 whereas
+</I>&gt;<i> another arch is no longer updated. Some dependencies will get broken
+</I>&gt;<i> between noarch &lt;=&gt; arch rpms (foo -arch- requires bar = 1 -noarch- and
+</I>&gt;<i> bar get update to version 2 for exemple).
+</I>
+Well, we have to assume that all archs in the cauldron tree are always
+up-to-date :)
+
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+ <B>Tux99</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway">tux99-mga at uridium.org
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+ <I>Sun Oct 3 23:51:24 CEST 2010</I>
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+On Sun, 3 Oct 2010, Olivier [utf-8] M&#195;&#169;jean wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Just look at rules on the ML here, no html, no top
+</I>&gt;<i> posting, just quote well are things that needs to use mail correctly. And just
+</I>&gt;<i> use mail correctly is sometimes hard for just users. I do not work in
+</I>&gt;<i> computing and i just see how computers are seen, how they are used and how
+</I>&gt;<i> theses 3 rules would be hard to use. No HTML ? well i guess few users (outside
+</I>&gt;<i> those working in computing) knows how to do it, no top posting ... ouch quite
+</I>&gt;<i> impossible, quote well ... hum what do you calll quoting ?
+</I>
+In fact like wobo already said this is the strong point of the forum ML
+gateway, it ENFORCES bottom posting (by putting the cursor by default
+under the quoted text in the reply edit window), html and BB code are
+disabled in the ML sub-forums and threading is kept automatically by the
+forum, so a newbie can make a lot less netiquette mistakes by using the
+forum ML gw, then by using gmail or any other mail program.
+
+&gt;<i> Let's face it, ML is a tool for developers not a tool for users.
+</I>
+This is what former Mandriva devs are used to, as has always been
+customary in Mandriva, but it's by no means a general rule, there are
+devs on other projects that use forums instead.
+
+But that's beside the point as a forum ML gw simply gives everyone a
+choice, no one is forced to use the forum gw, but also no one is forced
+anymore to use the ML.
+
+Unlike a company with employees (like Mandriva), a community project
+needs to be attractive for all kinds of devs, if you tell new devs that
+they have to do as you say, they will just leave.
+Being flexible will attract more devs which surely is something a large
+project like Mageia wants.
+
+Personally even before internet I started on Fidonet forums in the
+early '90s, which is sort of comparable to mailing lists, then later
+Internet ML, usenet forums,etc.
+Everyone of these technolgies has had it's boom period, for me MLs
+these days are an archaic unpractical tool of the pre-history of the
+internet.
+
+But like I said, everyone has his/her preferences and that fine, since
+with a forum ML gw we can still all collaborate and communicate each
+with out preferred method.
+
+Keeping the community separated will not lead to a successfull
+community, separation and lack of communication (in both directions!)
+inevitably leads to frustrations, resentment and misunderstandings.
+
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+ <B>Lucien XU</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Wish List">lucien.xu at student.ecp.fr
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+ <I>Sun Oct 3 00:47:57 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Saturday 02 October 2010 12:48:15 Lawrence A Fossi wrote:
+&gt;<i> Since 2011 is the target my wish list is simple.
+</I>&gt;<i> X.org Server 1.10
+</I>&gt;<i> Mesa 7.9
+</I>&gt;<i> Kernel 2.6.36.x
+</I>
+My wishlist is about graphics interface.
+If it is too late for designing a new theme (or improve iaora), we should use
+oxygen for KDE, and pack oxygen-molecule GTK theme for KDE integration.
+And about Gnome, we should use their base theme (forget the name)
+--
+Sorry if I'm breaking the thread, I'm using KMail B&#234;ta ...
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+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 23:51:24 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 105<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001833.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002065.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001840.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002072.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002054.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002059.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002020.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002024.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002025.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002035.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002045.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002028.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002027.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002014.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001827.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page
+</A><A NAME="1827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001824.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>F Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002057.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001820.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002033.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002056.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001842.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001852.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Denis MARCOUREL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002023.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001819.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002019.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002021.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001834.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001835.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001841.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002049.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002068.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002070.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002053.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002026.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001821.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001822.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001829.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001831.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001836.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001839.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002011.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002030.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002038.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002048.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002052.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="2069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001828.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001830.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001832.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001837.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001838.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001853.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="1848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="1849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002015.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="2015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002128.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001825.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001826.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001823.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page
+</A><A NAME="1823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jiang Yike
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>chag
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002040.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002055.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>lebarhon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002022.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Oct 3 23:51:24 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 13:46:35 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <title>The Mageia-discuss 3 October 2010 Archive by date</title>
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+ <h1>3 October 2010 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 00:24:40 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 23:51:24 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 105<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001819.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002128.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001820.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001821.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001822.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001823.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page
+</A><A NAME="1823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jiang Yike
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001824.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>F Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001825.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001826.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001827.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page
+</A><A NAME="1827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001828.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001829.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001830.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001831.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001832.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001833.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001834.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001835.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001836.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001837.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001838.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001839.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001840.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001841.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001842.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>chag
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="1848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="1849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001852.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001853.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>lebarhon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002011.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002052.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002014.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002015.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="2015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Denis MARCOUREL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002019.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002020.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002021.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002022.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002023.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002024.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002026.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002025.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002027.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002028.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002030.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002033.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002035.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002038.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002040.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002045.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002048.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002049.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002053.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002055.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002056.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002054.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002057.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002059.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002065.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002068.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="2069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002070.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002072.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Oct 3 23:51:24 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 13:46:35 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>3 October 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 00:24:40 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 23:51:24 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 105<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001823.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page
+</A><A NAME="1823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jiang Yike
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001827.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page
+</A><A NAME="1827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002038.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002040.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002048.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002055.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002054.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002057.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002059.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002072.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002035.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002045.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002049.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002065.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002068.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002070.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="1848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002052.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001828.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001829.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001830.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001831.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001832.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001833.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001834.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001835.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001836.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001837.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001838.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001839.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001840.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001853.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002053.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="1849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002015.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="2015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="2069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001819.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002128.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001820.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001821.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001822.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001824.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>F Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001825.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001826.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001841.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001842.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>chag
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001852.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>lebarhon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002011.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002014.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Denis MARCOUREL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002019.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002021.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002023.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002026.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002027.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002028.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002030.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002033.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002056.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002020.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002022.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002024.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002025.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Oct 3 23:51:24 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 13:46:35 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ </a></b></li>
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+ <h1>3 October 2010 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 00:24:40 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 23:51:24 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 105<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01286058280- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001819.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286058280-01286062542- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001822.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286058280-01286062542-01286065006- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001824.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>F Janssens
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286059677- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002128.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286060924- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001820.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286061771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001821.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286063909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001823.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page
+</A><A NAME="1823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jiang Yike
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286065133- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001825.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286065133-01286106396- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286065133-01286106396-01286107089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01286065133-01286106396-01286112496- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286112496-01286124429- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002019.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286112496-01286124429-01286127933- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002028.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286112496-01286124429-01286132370- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002011.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782-01286117340- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002012.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782-01286117340-01286123648- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Denis MARCOUREL
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782-01286117340-01286123648-01286124455- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782-01286117340-01286125321- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002021.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782-01286117340-01286125321-01286130723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002030.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782-01286117340-01286125321-01286130723-01286135979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782-01286117340-01286125321-01286130723-01286135979-01286137945- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782-01286117340-01286125321-01286130723-01286135979-01286137945-01286140378- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002063.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286065133-01286106396-01286116782-01286117340-01286125321-01286130723-01286135979-01286137945-01286140378-01286142087- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286065164- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001826.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien XU
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286069829- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001827.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page
+</A><A NAME="1827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286079958- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001828.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286079958-01286080411- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001829.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286079958-01286080411-01286080614- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001830.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286079958-01286080411-01286080614-01286081562- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001831.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286080411-01286080614-01286081562-01286081873- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001832.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286080411-01286080614-01286081562-01286081873-01286081929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001833.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286080411-01286080614-01286081562-01286081873-01286082558- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001836.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286080411-01286080614-01286081562-01286081873-01286082558-01286083178- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001838.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286080411-01286080614-01286081562-01286081873-01286082558-01286083178-01286083414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001839.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286080411-01286080614-01286081562-01286081873-01286082558-01286083178-01286083414-01286086730- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001840.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01286079958-01286082086- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001834.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286079958-01286082086-01286082230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001835.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01286079958-01286082086-01286082568- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001837.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01286079958-01286101628- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286079958-01286101628-01286105045- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01286079958-01286101628-01286108217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001853.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="1853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286079958-01286101628-01286108217-01286131201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002032.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286101628-01286108217-01286131201-01286134274- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286101628-01286108217-01286131201-01286134274-01286136217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286101628-01286108217-01286131201-01286134274-01286136217-01286136557- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286101628-01286108217-01286131201-01286134274-01286136217-01286136557-01286139373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002060.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286079958-01286101628-01286108217-01286131201-01286134274-01286136217-01286136557-01286139373-01286141259- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002066.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01286079958-01286101628-01286131079- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002031.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01286079958-01286121964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002016.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01286079958-01286134812- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286079958-01286134812-01286135666- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01286079958-01286138445- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002053.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286079958-01286138445-01286141685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01286079958-01286138445-01286142684- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing List to Web Forum Bidirectional Gateway
+</A><A NAME="2075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286093548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001841.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286093548-01286100101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286095012- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001842.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286095012-01286095898- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>chag
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286095012-01286095898-01286097474- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>herman
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001852.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>lebarhon
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="1855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002010.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286119214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002013.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286119214-01286125810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002023.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286119214-01286125810-01286126369- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002026.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286119214-01286125810-01286126369-01286126988- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002027.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286119214-01286125810-01286126369-01286130794- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002029.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286132226- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002033.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286132226-01286134258- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286132226-01286134258-01286135141- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286132226-01286134258-01286138796- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002056.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286132226-01286134258-01286138796-01286140308- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002062.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286132226-01286137096- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286095012-01286095898-01286107984-01286108669-01286111375-01286114201-01286132226-01286137096-01286139035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002058.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286104621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286105335- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="1848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286105662- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="1849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286118579- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002052.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286118579-01286139589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002061.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286118579-01286139589-01286140477- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002064.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286118579-01286139589-01286140477-01286142237- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01286118579-01286139589-01286141410- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002067.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Mirror size
+</A><A NAME="2067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286120777- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002014.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List
+</A><A NAME="2014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286121645- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002015.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="2015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286125304- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002020.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286125304-01286125748- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002022.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286125900- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002024.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286126450- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002025.html">[Mageia-discuss] wrong reference to flickr in the blog page
+</A><A NAME="2025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Philippe DIDIER
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01286133156- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002035.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01286133156-01286134685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002038.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286133156-01286134685-01286137968- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002049.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286133156-01286134685-01286137968-01286138958- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002054.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286133156-01286134685-01286137968-01286138958-01286139028- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002057.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286133156-01286134685-01286137968-01286138958-01286139028-01286139542- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002059.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286133156-01286134685-01286137968-01286138958-01286139028-01286139542-01286141523- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002068.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286133156-01286134685-01286137968-01286138958-01286139028-01286139542-01286141523-01286141799- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002072.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286133156-01286134685-01286137968-01286138958-01286140896- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002065.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01286133156-01286134995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002040.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01286133156-01286134995-01286136339- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002045.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01286133156-01286134995-01286136339-01286138737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002055.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286133156-01286134995-01286136339-01286138737-01286141655- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002070.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01286133156-01286134995-01286137782- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002048.html">[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board
+</A><A NAME="2048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01286141533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror infrastructure setup
+</A><A NAME="2069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Oct 3 23:51:24 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 13:46:35 CEST 2010</i>
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