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+ <B>atilla ontas</B>
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+ <I>Tue Sep 28 18:40:05 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>2010/9/28 Lucien-Henry Horvath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tempo2 at marneau.eu</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> EN (FR dessous) :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not realy hyper-correctness if several person thinking the same.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was my first interpretation too ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have already a star in the logo (like Mao / Lenin / US-EU flags ;-) ) ...
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it realy a good idea to finish have a similar &quot;Pakistan or Turkey Flag&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png">http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A lot of flag of countries (with muslim history the most time) have crescent
+</I>&gt;<i> and star because it is a religious sign. Do you want a guys said immediatly
+</I>&gt;<i> when he look the logo : this is a muslim operating system ? Certainly not.
+</I>&gt;<i> All the world must be recognize him in this logo, in this linux distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> ... not only a part.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like realy this logo but only the version without the crescent of moon.
+</I>&gt;<i> The rest is clear, professional.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not the inversed star on the &quot;i&quot; _ and _ a &quot;M&quot; in form of penguin foot,
+</I>&gt;<i> like in an another proposal ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you let crescent on this logo and if you adopt this logo, you can just be
+</I>&gt;<i> sure that no government will use the distribution. Don't forget that, as a
+</I>&gt;<i> french distro, Mandriva was (is) used by french army today, and taxes
+</I>&gt;<i> ministery. They have to do care to not use to easily signed tools in their
+</I>&gt;<i> materials.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I say : Too similar religious signs in logo are dangerous for the future of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FR (EN up) :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ce n'est pas vraiment une hyper-correction, si plusieurs personnes pensant
+</I>&gt;<i> la m&#234;me chose.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> C'&#233;tait aussi ma premi&#232;re interpr&#233;tation ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nous avons d&#233;j&#224; une &#233;toile dans le logo (comme Mao / drapeaux L&#233;nine USA-UE
+</I>&gt;<i> / ;-)) ... Est-ce vraiment une bonne id&#233;e d'avoir un logo comme les drapeaux
+</I>&gt;<i> du Pakistan ou de la Turquie?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png">http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Un grand nombre de pavillon de pays (de culuture historique musulmane la
+</I>&gt;<i> plupart du temps) ont le croissant et l'&#233;toile parce que c'est un signe
+</I>&gt;<i> religieux. Voulez-vous qu'un gars dise tout de suite quand il regarde le
+</I>&gt;<i> logo: il s'agit d'un syst&#232;me d'exploitation musulman? Certainement pas. Tout
+</I>&gt;<i> le monde doit &#234;tre se reconna&#238;tre dans ce logo, dans cette distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> linux ... non seulement une partie.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> J'aime vraiment ce logo, mais seulement la version sans le croissant de
+</I>&gt;<i> lune. Sans cela, il reste clair et professionnel.
+</I>&gt;<i> Pourquoi ne pas garder l'&#233;toile invers&#233;e sur le &quot;i&quot; _ _ et un &quot;M&quot; en forme
+</I>&gt;<i> de pied de manchots, comme dans une autre proposition ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Si vous laissez le croissant sur ce logo et si vous adoptez ce logo, vous
+</I>&gt;<i> pouvez juste &#234;tre s&#251;r qu'aucun gouvernement ne va utiliser la distribution.
+</I>&gt;<i> Ne pas oublier que, en temps que distribution fran&#231;aise, Mandriva a &#233;t&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i> (est) utilis&#233;(e) par l'arm&#233;e fran&#231;aise d'aujourd'hui, et le minist&#232;re des
+</I>&gt;<i> imp&#244;ts. Ils doivent faire attention &#224; ne pas utiliser &#224; des outils portant
+</I>&gt;<i> des signes ostentatoires.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Je dis: Trop de signes apparentables &#224; des signes religieux dans le logo
+</I>&gt;<i> sont dangereux pour l'avenir de Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LoL ! Everything can be mis-interpreted. Please don't fall into a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hyper-correctness.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+A correction. Turkish flag is not religional sign but a historical
+fact. Moon and star founded in a war while Sultan Selim III ruled
+Ottoman Empire. The moon and star reflected on blood of dead Turkish
+soldiers and it excited others. That's why Turkish flag is moon and
+star on a red surface.
+</PRE>
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