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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 24 Sep 2010, R James wrote:
+&gt;<i> (Another friendly reminder not to top-post....)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far, this one is my favorite:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Its simple, elegant and appropriate for all potential users of Mageia. :o)
+</I>
+This is the first one I've liked since the dark orb with flames coming out the top with
+Mageia Linux out to the right. The design elements, including the font, are individually
+nice and nicely juxtaposed to make the total design. It's simple, elegant, and classy.
+I like it.
+
+Dale Huckeby
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+ <B>Andre Machado</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] List language">afmachado at dcemail.com
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+ <I>Tue Sep 28 00:04:20 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Dare I offer a suggestion aimed at those listers who speak/write little
+</I> English: could it be all right for them to post their best effort in English,
+ _and_ also post in their native language ?
+
+
+For me, no problems. Let's see what list moderators think.
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+For the good of all, I started to use Gmane, but when I will reply a post, it
+often says that is much quoted text. Is this normal? What are the maximum
+allowed? Can I erase all &gt; signs except the first one?
+
+Sorry for anything,
+
+Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Not sure if I get what this thread is about. APT and Synaptic are in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva repos.
+</I>
+Wait, can apt-get and Synaptic be installed in Mandriva and be used without none
+extra configuration?
+
+If this is true, let's both, and the user chooses the one he sees fit.
+
+Reguards,
+
+Andr&#233; Machado
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+<PRE>Le 27/09/2010 16:16, Juan Carlos de la Cruz a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/27 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/27 Juan Carlos de la Cruz &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pcboltzmann at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pcboltzmann at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've observed that the Mageia project's donations page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (<A HREF="http://donation.mageia.org/">http://donation.mageia.org/</A>) has currently been translated to
+</I>&gt;<i> most of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; languages. However it is not available in Spanish yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Would you be interested in my translation to Spanish language?
+</I>&gt;<i> If you are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so, how could I send it? Would it be OK to email it to this ML as an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; attached html file? contribution
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's ok. Thanks for you
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here you are!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> -------
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi,
+
+Thank you very much !
+
+It's online: <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.org/es/">http://donate.mageia.org/es/</A>
+
+Could you please check that the page is ok please ?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ma&#226;t
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Not sure if I get what this thread is about. APT and Synaptic are in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mandriva repos.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wait, can apt-get and Synaptic be installed in Mandriva and be used without none
+</I>&gt;<i> extra configuration?
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+It uses to be working to the price aof a big patch.
+Now, it doesn't compiles, and according to
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+<A HREF="http://lists.laiskiainen.org/pipermail/apt-rpm-laiskiainen.org/2010-May/000914.html">http://lists.laiskiainen.org/pipermail/apt-rpm-laiskiainen.org/2010-May/000914.html</A>
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+patch. However, according the mail I linked, apt-rpm is unmaintained.
+
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+
+It was a nightmare 5 years ago when I maintained the rpm, I doubt this
+changed much.
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+<PRE>On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Dale Huckeby &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Its simple, elegant and appropriate for all potential users of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;:o)
+</I>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Crescent moon-like symbol might be mis-interpreted as a religious
+symbol. The conspiracy crazies might generate much publicity for
+Mageia.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The only point I have regarding this logo is the font that looks like too
+</I>&gt;<i> much medieval from my taste.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I would suggest a simpler, more modern appearing font.
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+&gt;<i> &#160;Am 23.09.2010 14:33, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, of course, I was in generalising mode (many US Americans seem to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think that all Germans run around in Lederhosen, drinking beer and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> eating Sauerkraut, listening to Blaskapelle and singing about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Gem&#252;tlichkeit).
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Those I see on TV are drinking beer. But most Germans I see on US TV
+are beer-drinking sausage-eating WW!!-vintage soldiers with British
+accents, so reality is not heavily involved in any perception.
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+Hoyt Duff &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>&gt; napisa&#322;(a):
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Dale Huckeby &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Its simple, elegant and appropriate for all potential users of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia. :o)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Crescent moon-like symbol might be mis-interpreted as a religious
+</I>&gt;<i> symbol. The conspiracy crazies might generate much publicity for
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+LoL ! Everything can be mis-interpreted. Please don't fall into a
+hyper-correctness.
+
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+TPG
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+<PRE>Op dinsdag 28 september 2010 02:04:09 schreef Tomasz Pawe&#322; Gajc:
+&gt;<i> Dnia 2010-09-27, o godz. 19:46:34
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hoyt Duff &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>&gt; napisa&#322;(a):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Dale Huckeby &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-ar">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-ar</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; t
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Its simple, elegant and appropriate for all potential users of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Mageia. :o)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Crescent moon-like symbol might be mis-interpreted as a religious
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; symbol. The conspiracy crazies might generate much publicity for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LoL ! Everything can be mis-interpreted. Please don't fall into a
+</I>&gt;<i> hyper-correctness.
+</I>
+also, in PR, there's no such thing as bad publicity...
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Florian Hubold&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 23.09.2010 14:33, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, of course, I was in generalising mode (many US Americans seem to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> think that all Germans run around in Lederhosen, drinking beer and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> eating Sauerkraut, listening to Blaskapelle and singing about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Gem&#252;tlichkeit).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Those I see on TV are drinking beer. But most Germans I see on US TV
+</I>&gt;<i> are beer-drinking sausage-eating WW!!-vintage soldiers with British
+</I>&gt;<i> accents, so reality is not heavily involved in any perception.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I was going to say that the 60s TV show &quot;Hogan's Heros&quot; would be most US
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, while there is nothing wrong with .deb, this is &quot;no&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Just to clarify what I meant.
+
+I ,humble user, know of nothing wrong with deb or rpm. AFAIK both work
+just fine when used correctly. But Mageia is as stated a fork of
+Mandriva which is a very well known descendant of Red Hat ergo rpm is
+from the beginning the package management base. I wouldn't have thought
+this to be a matter for discussion. And as Mandriva is my favorite
+GNU/Linux distro I'm more than happy with that. If it ain't broke don't
+fix it. (Doesn't mean you can't tweak it!)
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+I have learned something though. Late at night I need to be more careful
+about responding to pointless discussions in the first place.
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+<PRE>On Monday, September 27, 2010 03:01:55 am Giuseppe Ghib&#242; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/27 isadora &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">isis2000 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Stop this discussion that is useless, please.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Bashburn hacker (<A HREF="http://bashburn.dose.se/">http://bashburn.dose.se/</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia Contributor (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/">http://www.mageia.org/fr/</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Serial Blogger (<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Kharec">http://twitter.com/Kharec</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Developer (Perl, Bash, C)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Vice President, secretary and member of CA of Alolise
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (<A HREF="http://www.alolise.org">http://www.alolise.org</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Exactly that, spend energy in more important things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With all the respect, but I don't like this tone of shutting up people, who
+</I>&gt;<i> might have a less technical skills, especially in a phase of brainstorming
+</I>&gt;<i> where everyone show entusiasm on partecipating even with the most crazy
+</I>&gt;<i> idea, and also because the trolling level has not yet been reached.
+</I>&gt;<i> Sometimes a brilliant idea might come or be inspired even from the most
+</I>&gt;<i> dumbest suggestion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bye
+</I>&gt;<i> Giuseppe.
+</I>I wouldn't like a change. Some of the packages required a lot of effort in the
+spec file and I wouldn't like to spend a lot of hours to change them for
+gaining not much.
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+<PRE>On 09/28/2010 02:08 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 28 september 2010 02:04:09 schreef Tomasz Pawe&#322; Gajc:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dnia 2010-09-27, o godz. 19:46:34
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hoyt Duff&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>&gt; napisa&#322;(a):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Dale Huckeby&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-ar">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-ar</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> t
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Its simple, elegant and appropriate for all potential users of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia. :o)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Crescent moon-like symbol might be mis-interpreted as a religious
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> symbol. The conspiracy crazies might generate much publicity for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LoL ! Everything can be mis-interpreted. Please don't fall into a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hyper-correctness.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> also, in PR, there's no such thing as bad publicity...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Our one Graphics designer has been set loose for the week to come up
+with ideas for the logo. I think if everyone works together, then a
+'community designed' logo would fit everyones taste. Constructive
+criticism and comments can only bring us closer to a perfect-as-possible
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+<PRE> On 09/27/2010 09:34 PM, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Monday, September 27, 2010 03:01:55 am Giuseppe Ghib&#242; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/9/27 isadora&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">isis2000 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Stop this discussion that is useless, please.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Bashburn hacker (<A HREF="http://bashburn.dose.se/">http://bashburn.dose.se/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia Contributor (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/">http://www.mageia.org/fr/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Serial Blogger (<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Kharec">http://twitter.com/Kharec</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Developer (Perl, Bash, C)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Vice President, secretary and member of CA of Alolise
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://www.alolise.org">http://www.alolise.org</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Exactly that, spend energy in more important things.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With all the respect, but I don't like this tone of shutting up people, who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> might have a less technical skills, especially in a phase of brainstorming
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> where everyone show entusiasm on partecipating even with the most crazy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> idea, and also because the trolling level has not yet been reached.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sometimes a brilliant idea might come or be inspired even from the most
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dumbest suggestion.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bye
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Giuseppe.
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't like a change. Some of the packages required a lot of effort in the
+</I>&gt;<i> spec file and I wouldn't like to spend a lot of hours to change them for
+</I>&gt;<i> gaining not much.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I Think that changing the package manager to anything other than rpm
+will require a serious change in the core of the distribution. It would
+also add a lot more work right off the start because of the new tools
+that would have to be created or incorporated into the project. But
+please don't get me wrong i'm not saying its not possible. I would love
+to (someday) see a distro which asks me during installation which type
+of package manager i want to include, with option &quot;None&quot; amongst many :)
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+&gt;<i> Am 23.09.2010 14:33, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, of course, I was in generalising mode (many US Americans seem to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think that all Germans run around in Lederhosen, drinking beer and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> eating Sauerkraut, listening to Blaskapelle and singing about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Gem&#252;tlichkeit).
+</I>&gt;<i> Pssst, do not shout this out so loudly. They could take a look
+</I>&gt;<i> at Munich, Bavaria at the moment and be approved by their
+</I>&gt;<i> opinion that we have something simlar to &quot;rednecks&quot; in germany :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hey, I grew up in Mississippi and I've been to Munich. I doubt they're
+drinking Bud Light in Munich now. Though some of the behavior is similar
+this time of year...
+
+Dwight Paige,
+New Orleans
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia-br.org">http://mageia-br.org</A> is runing under Windows Server 2003 according <A HREF="http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mageia-br.org%2F">http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mageia-br.org%2F</A> . Isn't official. Don't use it.
+</I>
+Maybe it's on a parked-domains server.
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+On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Andre Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+&gt;<i> For the good of all, I started to use Gmane,
+</I>
+Thank you so so so much. This is the first post that is not breaking a thread.
+
+ WIN!
+
+&gt;<i> but when I will reply a post, it
+</I>&gt;<i> often says that is much quoted text.
+</I>
+Then, you are quoting too much text compared of the amount of new text
+you are ading to the conversation.
+
+&gt;<i> Is this normal?
+</I>
+It is normal when you quote a very long message and you add only very little.
+
+&gt;<i> What are the maximum allowed?
+</I>
+I don't know. But my guess is that quoting a 200 lines email just to
+ad a one line answer is not good.
+
+Not good for the server, and not good for everybody reading the messages.
+
+Think about it.
+
+You'll have to download a huge message over cellular network (most
+read emails on smartphones), which takes time, battery and goes
+against the data download limit.
+
+And then, you have to scroll many many many lines just for a single line.
+
+Not great.
+
+This is why there are all this rules in place.
+
+&gt;<i> Can I erase all &gt; signs except the first one?
+</I>
+That will be awful. You will just &quot;cheating&quot;.
+
+Thin why are there rules, to help everybody, to make it easier to read
+more than 1000 messages in one week.
+
+Just trim (= remove) what is not needed.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Sorry for anything,
+</I>
+Don't worry. We all learn all the time, nobody is born knowing it all.
+
+&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Dale Huckeby &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Its simple, elegant and appropriate for all potential users of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;:o)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Crescent moon-like symbol might be mis-interpreted as a religious
+</I>&gt;<i> symbol. The conspiracy crazies might generate much publicity for
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.
+</I>
+Please be careful of your attributions. I didn't write that. If you're going
+to edit out a person's words edit out his name also.
+
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+<PRE>Hi all from Buenos Aires.
+Well, here it is my contribution for logo contest. Its made on CS4 over
+wine, probably u say that is not &quot;correct&quot;, but this is
+another simple contribution for the logos proposal :)
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</A>
+
+Namaste
+Pablo Barrera
+
+
+2010/9/28 Dale Huckeby &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Hoyt Duff wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Dale Huckeby &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54138626@N05/5016045891/in/pool-mageia-art</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Its simple, elegant and appropriate for all potential users of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> :o)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Crescent moon-like symbol might be mis-interpreted as a religious
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> symbol. The conspiracy crazies might generate much publicity for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please be careful of your attributions. I didn't write that. If you're
+</I>&gt;<i> going
+</I>&gt;<i> to edit out a person's words edit out his name also.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Please be careful of your attributions. I didn't write that. If you're
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> going
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to edit out a person's words edit out his name also.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Dale, I apologize for my sloppy trimming. With all the nested replies,
+over-quoting and top-posting, it gets a little jumbled at times.
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+And I now see how badly GMail sucks at reading mail lists.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> LoL ! Everything can be mis-interpreted. Please don't fall into a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hyper-correctness.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> also, in PR, there's no such thing as bad publicity...
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+My point. A little harmless controversy never hurt. I liked the logo.
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+&gt;<i> I Think that changing the package manager to anything other than rpm will
+</I>&gt;<i> require a serious change in the core of the distribution. It would also add
+</I>&gt;<i> a lot more work right off the start because of the new tools that would have
+</I>&gt;<i> to be created or incorporated into the project. But please don't get me
+</I>&gt;<i> wrong i'm not saying its not possible. I would love to (someday) see a
+</I>&gt;<i> distro which asks me during installation which type of package manager i
+</I>&gt;<i> want to include, with option &quot;None&quot; amongst many :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Pretty much akin to suggesting that we switch to a BSD or the HURD
+kernel (and I'm not suggesting that at all).
+
+All are interesting ideas with some merit and no need to disparage any
+ideas, but it's not a very frugal use of resources at this time.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Binary Trance &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">binarytrance at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please be careful of your attributions. I didn't write that. If you're
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; going
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to edit out a person's words edit out his name also.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Dale Huckeby
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dale, I apologize for my sloppy trimming. With all the nested replies,
+</I>&gt;<i> over-quoting and top-posting, it gets a little jumbled at times.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I now see how badly GMail sucks at reading mail lists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Hoyt
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I like Gmail at reading, but writing a new message is annoying due to top
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+ <B>Hoyt Duff</B>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Hoyt Duff &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> And I now see how badly GMail sucks at reading mail lists.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hoyt
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like Gmail at reading, but writing a new message is annoying due to top
+</I>&gt;<i> posting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Agreed.
+
+--
+Hoyt
+
+A: Top Posting
+Q: What's the most annoying thing found in email?
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+<PRE>Le 27/09/2010 23:50, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia-br.org">http://mageia-br.org</A> is runing under Windows Server 2003 according <A HREF="http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mageia-br.org%2F">http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mageia-br.org%2F</A> . Isn't official. Don't use it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _____________________________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---&gt; <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> ---&gt; A Washington Online Community Member ---&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A>
+</I>Andr&#233;,
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+As told you many time, please use a proper mail client and stop breaking
+threads every time you send a message
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+Thank you
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+--
+Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a
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+<PRE> El 22/09/2010 23:49, Anne nicolas escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> News on our messy kitchen available below :)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (other languages coming soon)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we
+</I>&gt;<i> can start very soon.
+</I>&gt;<i> As a reminder, you can register on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki">http://mageia.org/wiki</A> if you wish
+</I>&gt;<i> to contribute or have a look on <A HREF="http://donation.mageia.org">http://donation.mageia.org</A> to help
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks again for your support
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -------
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A>
+</I>mdktrans-be translated the blog post (<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18</A>) to
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+<PRE>On 24 September 2010 20:02, Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> There should be a recurring reminder of the mailist and Gmane list rules.
+</I>&gt;<i> There are many who are new to mailists and have never had the experience in
+</I>&gt;<i> group mailist etiquette. Some people find it annoying/frustrating when
+</I>&gt;<i> people top-post, quote whole passages etc. But we should be happy that there
+</I>&gt;<i> is so much participation. It just means that we need to every now and then
+</I>&gt;<i> send out a gentle reminder of the rules. I think that the &quot;Mailist etiquette
+</I>&gt;<i> -- gentle reminder&quot; should be posted every now and then by the Mageia ML
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer just to add a little formality to the message.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mailist etiquette:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - English language only please on the mailist
+</I>&gt;<i> - no top posting please
+</I>&gt;<i> - when answering, please quote the relevant sentences that is being replied
+</I>&gt;<i> - please do not break the threads. Do a proper &quot;Reply&quot; from your email agent
+</I>&gt;<i> and your email will be &quot;nested&quot; with the right discussion thread.
+</I>&gt;<i> - please do not hijack threads by &quot;Replying&quot; and then changing the &quot;Subject&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> line of the mail
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The exchange of ideas makes us all grow. Mageia, the magic continues.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Adding to the above list:
+- Please always set the text line wrap in your email client to ~72
+characters. (the number of characters per line seems to be a debatable
+issue; 72 chars per line is used in both evolution and claws-mail,
+so...).
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+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+ <B>Thomas Lottmann</B>
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+<PRE> Le 26/09/2010 22:50, Rory Albertyn a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Greetings,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A South African user community has started. The IRC channel is
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-za on freenode.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to thank those of you who assisted and would like to
+</I>&gt;<i> request a mailing list and links on the website.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thank you very much!
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+In fact, I think this would really be great and helpful to also support
+afrikaans and people from South Africa. :-)
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+<PRE>Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 &#224; 09:58 +0200, Lombard Marianne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 27/09/2010 23:50, Andr&#233; Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia-br.org">http://mageia-br.org</A> is runing under Windows Server 2003 according <A HREF="http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mageia-br.org%2F">http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mageia-br.org%2F</A> . Isn't official. Don't use it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As told you many time, please use a proper mail client and stop breaking
+</I>&gt;<i> threads every time you send a message
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+May I suggest to people who sent such messages that they be a little bit
+more friendly, and kindly explain what is a thread ( because not
+everybody know this ), and how to not break them ?
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+And by the way, such messages would better be sent in private IMHO, this
+ is not related to the list.
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+Michael Scherer
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+ <B>Juan Carlos de la Cruz</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> It's online: <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.org/es/">http://donate.mageia.org/es/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could you please check that the page is ok please ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yep. It's fine!
+
+There is only a very minor thing: In the header of the page, in the section
+for the language-version labels, the attribute ' class=&quot;sel&quot; ' should be put
+in the '<A HREF="http://donations.mageia.org/es">http://donations.mageia.org/es</A>' link, not in the English one, in
+order to see the Spanish link in bold characters when the pages is browsed.
+I forgot to change it, sorry for that!
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+ <B>Ma&#226;t</B>
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+<PRE>Le 28/09/2010 11:14, Juan Carlos de la Cruz a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> It's online: <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.org/es/">http://donate.mageia.org/es/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could you please check that the page is ok please ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep. It's fine!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is only a very minor thing: In the header of the page, in the
+</I>&gt;<i> section for the language-version labels, the attribute ' class=&quot;sel&quot; '
+</I>&gt;<i> should be put in the '<A HREF="http://donations.mageia.org/es">http://donations.mageia.org/es</A>' link, not in the
+</I>&gt;<i> English one, in order to see the Spanish link in bold characters when
+</I>&gt;<i> the pages is browsed. I forgot to change it, sorry for that!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kind regards!
+</I>Fixed :)
+
+Thanks for the review !
+
+Ma&#226;t
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+<PRE>On 09/28/2010 10:13 AM, Thomas Lottmann wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 26/09/2010 22:50, Rory Albertyn a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Greetings,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A South African user community has started. The IRC channel is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> #mageia-za on freenode.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would like to thank those of you who assisted and would like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> request a mailing list and links on the website.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you very much!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact, I think this would really be great and helpful to also
+</I>&gt;<i> support afrikaans and people from South Africa. :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Skiper.
+</I>
+Work on the South African site has begun. mageia-za.org should have
+propagated by now as well. I think buddypress would work nicely as a
+community site as it fits most of our needs. Any comments, constructive
+criticism and input on this would be most welcome. It is a community
+after all.
+
+Skiper, Afrikaans will indeed be supported on par with English. French
+translation could also be looked at for those speaking the language in
+the Southern African regions too.
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+Once the Site is up, I'll be looking at potential mirrors for the ZA users.
+
+~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode)
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+Those interested in dependency management (aka rpm or deb and associated tools) can find here much data presenting the pros and cons of each approach in the Linux world:
+<A HREF="http://www.mancoosi.org/">http://www.mancoosi.org/</A>
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+ <B>Wayne Sallee</B>
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+<PRE>I think it's too large of a logo (when you include all the lines), and
+it's too hard to understand the name.
+The line pattern might make a good desktop design.
+
+Wayne Sallee
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
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+Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 12:26 AM:
+&gt;<i> Hi all from Buenos Aires.
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, here it is my contribution for logo contest. Its made on CS4
+</I>&gt;<i> over wine, probably u say that is not &quot;correct&quot;, but this is
+</I>&gt;<i> another simple contribution for the logos proposal :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Namaste
+</I>&gt;<i> Pablo Barrera
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+2010/9/28 Wayne Sallee &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at waynesallee.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> I think it's too large of a logo (when you include all the lines), and it's
+</I>&gt;<i> too hard to understand the name.
+</I>&gt;<i> The line pattern might make a good desktop design.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I just another proposal no more no less, the idea was thinking on a
+bootsplash concept, and the logo precisely
+runs on transgession of the interpretation of the name :) its absolutely
+intentional :)
+
+anyway theres a lot of option, and as i said, just for the pleasrure for
+share things...
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+regards
+P.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Binary Trance wrote on 09/28/2010 12:26 AM:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all from Buenos Aires.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, here it is my contribution for logo contest. Its made on CS4 over
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wine, probably u say that is not &quot;correct&quot;, but this is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another simple contribution for the logos proposal :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Namaste
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pablo Barrera
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+&gt;<i> &gt; As told you many time, please use a proper mail client and stop breaking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; threads every time you send a message
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+</I>&gt;<i> I've seeing the comments about breaking threads.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I check all my mail with web GMail and the thread never breaks. All
+</I>&gt;<i> comments from Andr&#233; are in the same thread.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tavillo1980
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+I use gmail too without any problem, threads are never broken
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+On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 22:33 -0400, Sinner from the Prairy wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; For the good of all, I started to use Gmane,
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+Going to throw out an idea born by the members on Mageia-se.org about the handling of translations.
+This might be an obvious idea, and if so we'll be happy :-)
+
+I'm going to quote the text i wrote in #mageia since i currently feel too lazy to re-write it. Hope you understand what i'm trying to say with the text.
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+&quot;Had a discussion on Mageia-se.org where we talked about making translations of the disto from the community itself. The suggestion, that i wanted to run by someone before putting on the mailist, is that each country community starts a section (a wiki for example) where all the members of that community are able to translate as much as they are able and then, when reaching a certain percent translated, the translation is returned to the main developer team for implementation.&quot;
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+&quot;the main motivation from the members on mageia-se.org was that everyone could feel apart of the work and feel useful since even only translating one word would be a contribution.&quot;
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+----
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+Betygs&#228;tt g&#228;rna mitt mail!
+<A HREF="http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/">http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/</A>
+
+----
+
+Best Regards / V&#228;nligen ,
+
+Stockholm Next Generation Web
+David V. Wallin
++46 (0)8 4100 39 82
+<A HREF="http://www.ngweb.se">http://www.ngweb.se</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Going to throw out an idea born by the members on Mageia-se.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://Mageia-se.org">http://Mageia-se.org</A>&gt; about the handling of translations.
+</I>&gt;<i> This might be an obvious idea, and if so we'll be happy :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm going to quote the text i wrote in #mageia since i currently feel
+</I>&gt;<i> too lazy to re-write it. Hope you understand what i'm trying to say with
+</I>&gt;<i> the text.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Had a discussion on Mageia-se.org &lt;<A HREF="http://Mageia-se.org">http://Mageia-se.org</A>&gt; where we
+</I>&gt;<i> talked about making translations of the disto from the community itself.
+</I>&gt;<i> The suggestion, that i wanted to run by someone before putting on the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailist, is that each country community starts a section (a wiki for
+</I>&gt;<i> example) where all the members of that community are able to translate
+</I>&gt;<i> as much as they are able and then, when reaching a certain percent
+</I>&gt;<i> translated, the translation is returned to the main developer team for
+</I>&gt;<i> implementation.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;the main motivation from the members on mageia-se.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://mageia-se.org">http://mageia-se.org</A>&gt; was that everyone could feel apart of the work
+</I>&gt;<i> and feel useful since even only translating one word would be a
+</I>&gt;<i> contribution.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Betygs&#228;tt g&#228;rna mitt mail!
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/">http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best Regards / V&#228;nligen ,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stockholm Next Generation Web
+</I>&gt;<i> David V. Wallin
+</I>&gt;<i> +46 (0)8 4100 39 82
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ngweb.se">http://www.ngweb.se</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">david at ngweb.se</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">david at ngweb.se</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi,
+
+No tool has been chosen right now for the translation work. Different
+ideas have been launched : subversion, transifex, etc. Why not a wiki.
+There is advantages and problems in every solution.
+
+You can join the list mageia-i18n, who is dedicated to the translation
+and localization issue.
+
+Marianne / Jehane
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+--
+Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a
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+</I>
+This woould mean that you either put the po files on the wiki to be
+subject to collaboration or you use your own svn system while the
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+Of course it is an idea but it also involves extra work. It alos
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+See <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
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+It's based on SimplePo, with some customization (I didn't do it, so I
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+We pick PO files, and put them at <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
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+There, MDKTrans members log in and translate lines. Other members come
+after, and check.
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+When it's ready 100%, Diego Bello (MDKTrans coordinator) uploads PO
+file again to Mandriva server.
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+Cheers!
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+tavillo1980
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+<PRE>Le 28/09/2010 14:21, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 Lombard Marianne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marianne at tuxette.fr</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No tool has been chosen right now for the translation work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh, really? I'd strongly recommend agreeing on a tool which is easy to
+</I>&gt;<i> use and which allows for using the already existing po files of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux for such parts which will be the same or only slightly
+</I>&gt;<i> different from current Cooker.
+</I>
+I never said that some tools have not been rejected (like launchpad).
+But only that no official decision has been announced.
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+Personnaly, my preference go to transifex, who is dedicated to
+translation work. But everyone can not share my opinion.
+
+Marianne
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+--
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+&quot;David V. Wallin&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">david at ngweb.se</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-09-28
+&gt;<i>... that each
+</I>&gt;<i> country community starts a section (a wiki for example) where all the
+</I>&gt;<i> members of that community are able to translate as much as they are able
+</I>&gt;<i> and then, when reaching a certain percent translated, the translation is
+</I>&gt;<i> returned to the main developer team for implementation.
+</I>
+I really don't think, this is such a great idea because as a i18n team member
+you would have to read all thos stuff and see, if it's translated correctly.
+And then we would have to add all that stuff into the right format and commit
+it.
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+It would be far easier, if a few more people would help in the real work and
+contribute to the translations directly. It's not that hard to work with
+poedit or lokalize.
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+<PRE>2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> We have something like that at Blogdrake.net
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's based on SimplePo, with some customization (I didn't do it, so I
+</I>&gt;<i> can't tell you which things has being changed).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We pick PO files, and put them at <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There, MDKTrans members log in and translate lines. Other members come
+</I>&gt;<i> after, and check.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When it's ready 100%, Diego Bello (MDKTrans coordinator) uploads PO
+</I>&gt;<i> file again to Mandriva server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tavillo1980
+</I>
+I forgot, I hope Mageia has something like this:
+<A HREF="http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/">http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/</A>
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+IMHO, it rise translators spirit when they see how lines become green.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 22:33 -0400, Sinner from the Prairy wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; For the good of all, I started to use Gmane,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thank you so so so much. This is the first post that is not breaking a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thread.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; WIN!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What usernet group to used in Gname.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We have something like that at Blogdrake.net
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; See <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It's based on SimplePo, with some customization (I didn't do it, so I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can't tell you which things has being changed).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We pick PO files, and put them at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There, MDKTrans members log in and translate lines. Other members come
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; after, and check.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When it's ready 100%, Diego Bello (MDKTrans coordinator) uploads PO
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; file again to Mandriva server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tavillo1980
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I forgot, I hope Mageia has something like this:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/">http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO, it rise translators spirit when they see how lines become green.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tavillo1980
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Statistics is certainly a must-on!
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> -----Message d'origine-----
+</I>&gt;<i> De&#160;: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> [mailto:mageia-discuss-
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bounces at mageia.org</A>] De la part de Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> Envoy&#233;&#160;: 28 septembre 2010 08:18
+</I>&gt;<i> &#192;&#160;: Mageia general discussions
+</I>&gt;<i> Objet&#160;: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 David V. Wallin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">david at ngweb.se</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;the main motivation from the members on mageia-se.org was that
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could feel apart of the work and feel useful since even only
+</I>&gt;<i> translating one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; word would be a contribution.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This woould mean that you either put the po files on the wiki to be
+</I>&gt;<i> subject to collaboration or you use your own svn system while the
+</I>&gt;<i> translators are working on the files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course it is an idea but it also involves extra work. It alos
+</I>&gt;<i> depends on how many volunteers you can round'up.
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+There's a great tool to do this job. We use it to translate openSUSE :
+Vertaal, <A HREF="http://www.vertaal.com.ar/">http://www.vertaal.com.ar/</A>
+
+Easy to use, great collaboration tool.
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+<PRE>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-09-28
+&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's based on SimplePo, with some customization (I didn't do it, so I
+</I>&gt;<i> can't tell you which things has being changed).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We pick PO files, and put them at <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> There, MDKTrans members log in and translate lines. Other members come
+</I>&gt;<i> after, and check.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When it's ready 100%, Diego Bello (MDKTrans coordinator) uploads PO
+</I>&gt;<i> file again to Mandriva server.
+</I>I think that's only producing more work then necessary. Why not use a version
+control system and dedicated tools like poedit or lokalize as I've already
+written?
+It give's you the same possibility and you don't need one central person to
+coordinate and submit everything...
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+<PRE>W dniu 2010-09-28 14:17, Lombard Marianne pisze:
+&gt;&gt;<i> The suggestion, that i wanted to run by someone before putting on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mailist, is that each country community starts a section (a wiki for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> example) where all the members of that community are able to translate
+</I>
+I'm definitely against using wiki for translation purposes or giving
+access to i18n tools to everybody. First of all, localization needs to
+be consistent. If everybody starts giving different names for same
+features, it will be a mess. Of course, there could be supervisors
+checking every single word but that structure will not work in smaller
+communities where HR capacity is limited. There also need to be a
+extensive guideline for all translators - and if we cannot force the
+community not to top-post on the mailing lists, I doubt we can reach
+concensus on the matter of proper phrases localization. I don't want to
+say that many of Mageia users will do the bad job on purpose but huge
+amount of them is not either fluent in English or their own language to
+be a translator.
+
+What I see as a perfect solution, is - discussed earlier - transifex. It
+will allow us to manage files easily and to create skillful and devoted
+localization teams. Of course, everybody would be able to join but the
+selection of candidates should appear in order not to do the same job twice.
+
+Regards,
+Adrian
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> As told you many time, please use a proper mail client and stop breaking
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> threads every time you send a message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've seeing the comments about breaking threads.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I check all my mail with web GMail and the thread never breaks. All
+</I>&gt;<i> comments from Andr&#233; are in the same thread.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tavillo1980
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Gmail doesn't do proper message threading like other email clients who
+do it properly e.g. thunderbird or evolution.
+
+A constant problem I had with emails from the bugs mailing list was
+gmail splitting the same bug report-related emails into two different
+threads (really conversation is a more appropriate word here) after a
+keyword is changed e.g. adding NEEDINFO to the report. Thunderbird
+would group messages based on email headers so it go it'd get it
+right.
+
+Quoting from <A HREF="http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=5900">http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=5900</A> :
+&#8220;Please note that a conversation will break off into a new thread if
+the subject line of the conversation is changed, or if the
+conversation reaches over 100 messages.&#8221;
+
+IIUC, any email client that does proper threading changing the subject
+line wouldn't break the thread.
+
+Of course this has an upside, when the thread is broken for other
+clients, gmail just works as it's taking the simple/stupid approach of
+grouping messages that have the same subject line (that is IIUC :)).
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+&gt;<i> On 28 September 2010 14:59, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As told you many time, please use a proper mail client and stop breaking
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> threads every time you send a message
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've seeing the comments about breaking threads.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I check all my mail with web GMail and the thread never breaks. All
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> comments from Andr&#233; are in the same thread.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tavillo1980
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gmail doesn't do proper message threading like other email clients who
+</I>&gt;<i> do it properly e.g. thunderbird or evolution.
+</I>
+Sorry, s/who/which/ .
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A constant problem I had with emails from the bugs mailing list was
+</I>&gt;<i> gmail splitting the same bug report-related emails into two different
+</I>&gt;<i> threads (really conversation is a more appropriate word here) after a
+</I>&gt;<i> keyword is changed e.g. adding NEEDINFO to the report. Thunderbird
+</I>&gt;<i> would group messages based on email headers so it go it'd get it
+</I>&gt;<i> right.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quoting from <A HREF="http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=5900">http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=5900</A> :
+</I>&gt;<i> &#8220;Please note that a conversation will break off into a new thread if
+</I>&gt;<i> the subject line of the conversation is changed, or if the
+</I>&gt;<i> conversation reaches over 100 messages.&#8221;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IIUC, any email client that does proper threading changing the subject
+</I>&gt;<i> line wouldn't break the thread.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course this has an upside, when the thread is broken for other
+</I>&gt;<i> clients, gmail just works as it's taking the simple/stupid approach of
+</I>&gt;<i> grouping messages that have the same subject line (that is IIUC :)).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> I think that's only producing more work then necessary. Why not use a version
+</I>&gt;<i> control system and dedicated tools like poedit or lokalize as I've already
+</I>&gt;<i> written?
+</I>&gt;<i> It give's you the same possibility and you don't need one central person to
+</I>&gt;<i> coordinate and submit everything...
+</I>
+The idea behind use SimplePO in Blogdrake is to have centralized POs.
+So, if a PO file has 1500 lines, and I translated 78, another user can
+keep working in the same file as I left it.
+
+IMHO it's better to have PO files in each translator PC. All POs are
+always in the web SimplePO. And we always work them there.
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+With this tool we translated 100% Mandriva 2010.1 POs to Spanish.
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+Cheers!
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+<PRE>As an active member of MDK-Trans, besides what tavillo1980 said:
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+&gt;<i> The idea behind use SimplePO in Blogdrake is to have centralized POs.
+</I>&gt;<i> So, if a PO file has 1500 lines, and I translated 78, another user can
+</I>&gt;<i> keep working in the same file as I left it.
+</I>
+In my humble opinion, having SimplePo in a centralized server made the
+translation and revision processes much faster. In just a couple of
+moths, the Spanish team reached the top-10 in the list:
+
+<A HREF="http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/toplist/">http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/toplist/</A>
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+For other translations, like documentation, that's another ball game.
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+Cheers,
+motitos
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+<PRE>EN (FR dessous) :
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+It is not realy hyper-correctness if several person thinking the same.
+
+It was my first interpretation too ...
+
+We have already a star in the logo (like Mao / Lenin / US-EU flags ;-) )
+... Is it realy a good idea to finish have a similar &quot;Pakistan or Turkey
+Flag&quot; ?
+<A HREF="http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png">http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png</A>
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+A lot of flag of countries (with muslim history the most time) have
+crescent and star because it is a religious sign. Do you want a guys
+said immediatly when he look the logo : this is a muslim operating
+system ? Certainly not. All the world must be recognize him in this
+logo, in this linux distribution ... not only a part.
+
+I like realy this logo but only the version without the crescent of
+moon. The rest is clear, professional.
+Why not the inversed star on the &quot;i&quot; _ and _ a &quot;M&quot; in form of penguin
+foot, like in an another proposal ?
+
+
+If you let crescent on this logo and if you adopt this logo, you can
+just be sure that no government will use the distribution. Don't forget
+that, as a french distro, Mandriva was (is) used by french army today,
+and taxes ministery. They have to do care to not use to easily signed
+tools in their materials.
+
+I say : Too similar religious signs in logo are dangerous for the future
+of Mageia.
+
+
+FR (EN up) :
+
+Ce n'est pas vraiment une hyper-correction, si plusieurs personnes
+pensant la m&#234;me chose.
+
+C'&#233;tait aussi ma premi&#232;re interpr&#233;tation ...
+
+Nous avons d&#233;j&#224; une &#233;toile dans le logo (comme Mao / drapeaux L&#233;nine
+USA-UE / ;-)) ... Est-ce vraiment une bonne id&#233;e d'avoir un logo comme
+les drapeaux du Pakistan ou de la Turquie?
+<A HREF="http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png">http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png</A>
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+Un grand nombre de pavillon de pays (de culuture historique musulmane la
+plupart du temps) ont le croissant et l'&#233;toile parce que c'est un signe
+religieux. Voulez-vous qu'un gars dise tout de suite quand il regarde le
+logo: il s'agit d'un syst&#232;me d'exploitation musulman? Certainement pas.
+Tout le monde doit &#234;tre se reconna&#238;tre dans ce logo, dans cette
+distribution linux ... non seulement une partie.
+
+J'aime vraiment ce logo, mais seulement la version sans le croissant de
+lune. Sans cela, il reste clair et professionnel.
+Pourquoi ne pas garder l'&#233;toile invers&#233;e sur le &quot;i&quot; _ _ et un &quot;M&quot; en
+forme de pied de manchots, comme dans une autre proposition ?
+
+Si vous laissez le croissant sur ce logo et si vous adoptez ce logo,
+vous pouvez juste &#234;tre s&#251;r qu'aucun gouvernement ne va utiliser la
+distribution. Ne pas oublier que, en temps que distribution fran&#231;aise,
+Mandriva a &#233;t&#233; (est) utilis&#233;(e) par l'arm&#233;e fran&#231;aise d'aujourd'hui, et
+le minist&#232;re des imp&#244;ts. Ils doivent faire attention &#224; ne pas utiliser &#224;
+des outils portant des signes ostentatoires.
+
+Je dis: Trop de signes apparentables &#224; des signes religieux dans le logo
+sont dangereux pour l'avenir de Mageia.
+
+
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+&gt;<i> LoL ! Everything can be mis-interpreted. Please don't fall into a
+</I>&gt;<i> hyper-correctness.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> In my humble opinion, having SimplePo in a centralized server made the
+</I>&gt;<i> translation and revision processes much faster. In just a couple of
+</I>&gt;<i> moths, the Spanish team reached the top-10 in the list:
+</I>If I had enough people (let's say 5 to 6) I could have done the same with the
+German translation using svn, poedit/lokalize.
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+And if everyone just commits his translations as soon as he finishes them and
+everyone checks the po-files out before he starts, you don't have the problem
+of different local po files.
+And with a little communication you can devide the tasks quite fine between the
+translators.
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+But I have one technical question: Is this a web tool you are using there?
+Because I wouldn't want some purely webbased infrastructure. There are quite
+some times, in which you would have time to translate but no internet
+connection (longer travels by train,...)
+
+And: vcs systems are normally quite good at merging files so even if more then
+one translator does work on the sam po file at the same time, it is solvable.
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+It is very inefficient this way because some reply to the i18n list,
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+I will write my replies on the i18n list, starting now.
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+<PRE>Binary Trance a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Wayne
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 Wayne Sallee &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at waynesallee.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at waynesallee.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it's too large of a logo (when you include all the lines),
+</I>&gt;<i> and it's too hard to understand the name.
+</I>&gt;<i> The line pattern might make a good desktop design.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just another proposal no more no less, the idea was thinking on a
+</I>&gt;<i> bootsplash concept, and the logo precisely
+</I>&gt;<i> runs on transgession of the interpretation of the name :) its
+</I>&gt;<i> absolutely intentional :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway theres a lot of option, and as i said, just for the pleasrure
+</I>&gt;<i> for share things...
+</I>that's why we're all here :)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal">http://mageia.posterous.com/my-first-post-and-logo-proposal</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Namaste
+</I>&gt;<i> Pablo Barrera
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>It looks really nice for a splash screen ...
+The colours are really nice too.
+Some suggestions ...
+For a logo, how about just taking the &quot;mageia / linux as in freedom&quot; part.
+To make it more readable, drop the G to its normal vertical position
+(with descender). The G and E can still be mirror images, although I
+would make them closer to a traditional E, and corresponding traditional
+G form. (That is, a G with an open descender.) The E would still be
+oversized, but that would be part of its charme.
+Like that, &quot;linux&quot; would have to be to the left of the G, &quot;as in
+freedom&quot; to the right.
+So that could be the full logo.
+Dropping &quot;linux&quot; and &quot;as in freedom&quot; could be a reduced logo.
+And including only the stylised GE could be the icon version.
+All versions would still look good in black and white, and would scale
+nicely. (Following the Mageia logo guidelines.)
+
+Please try it, I'd like to see if it would really work.
+Good luck :)
+
+my 2 cents
+- andr&#233;
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+2010/9/28 andr&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Please try it, I'd like to see if it would really work.
+</I>&gt;<i> Good luck :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> my 2 cents
+</I>&gt;<i> - andr&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>thanks for the feedback, i have the workstation on my house, so i will make
+the try this night :)
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+<PRE>2010/9/28 Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gmail doesn't do proper message threading like other email clients who
+</I>&gt;<i> do it properly e.g. thunderbird or evolution.
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+Oh, really? I did not know that.
+
+So I repeat my earlier question what to do:
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+1. I'm switching computers more than once a day. I do not have
+installation access to all of those, so using IMAP and installing a
+client with my access data on all machines I use is not an option.
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+2. I'm travelling and sometimes I have to use internet caf&#233;s for net
+access. I can't use the machines there to access my IMAP account.
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+3. Over the last year I switched all my mail accounts to be gathered
+at Googlemail, because of the reasons I mentioned above.
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+I do not want to break threads and I want to follow the lists, so, any
+good advices what I can do?
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> I do not want to break threads and I want to follow the lists, so, any
+</I>&gt;<i> good advices what I can do?
+</I>
+You could use web GMail always. It works fine for me. But it's
+because, as you, I user different machines. So I'd like to see always
+the same. I use web GMail only.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I do not want to break threads and I want to follow the lists, so, any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> good advices what I can do?
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+</I>&gt;<i> You could use web GMail always. It works fine for me. But it's
+</I>&gt;<i> because, as you, I user different machines. So I'd like to see always
+</I>&gt;<i> the same. I use web GMail &#160;only.
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+That's what I've been doing for the time being but then I read that
+Gmail breaks threads and limits the length of a thread, as Ahmad Sahir
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+<PRE> 28.09.2010 18:40, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> That's what I've been doing for the time being but then I read that
+</I>&gt;<i> Gmail breaks threads and limits the length of a thread, as Ahmad Sahir
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote. :(
+</I>You can always use Gmail over IMAP with Thunderbird (or with some other client).
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+<PRE>2010/9/28 Lucien-Henry Horvath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tempo2 at marneau.eu</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> EN (FR dessous) :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not realy hyper-correctness if several person thinking the same.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was my first interpretation too ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have already a star in the logo (like Mao / Lenin / US-EU flags ;-) ) ...
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it realy a good idea to finish have a similar &quot;Pakistan or Turkey Flag&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png">http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A lot of flag of countries (with muslim history the most time) have crescent
+</I>&gt;<i> and star because it is a religious sign. Do you want a guys said immediatly
+</I>&gt;<i> when he look the logo : this is a muslim operating system ? Certainly not.
+</I>&gt;<i> All the world must be recognize him in this logo, in this linux distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> ... not only a part.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like realy this logo but only the version without the crescent of moon.
+</I>&gt;<i> The rest is clear, professional.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not the inversed star on the &quot;i&quot; _ and _ a &quot;M&quot; in form of penguin foot,
+</I>&gt;<i> like in an another proposal ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you let crescent on this logo and if you adopt this logo, you can just be
+</I>&gt;<i> sure that no government will use the distribution. Don't forget that, as a
+</I>&gt;<i> french distro, Mandriva was (is) used by french army today, and taxes
+</I>&gt;<i> ministery. They have to do care to not use to easily signed tools in their
+</I>&gt;<i> materials.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I say : Too similar religious signs in logo are dangerous for the future of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FR (EN up) :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ce n'est pas vraiment une hyper-correction, si plusieurs personnes pensant
+</I>&gt;<i> la m&#234;me chose.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> C'&#233;tait aussi ma premi&#232;re interpr&#233;tation ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nous avons d&#233;j&#224; une &#233;toile dans le logo (comme Mao / drapeaux L&#233;nine USA-UE
+</I>&gt;<i> / ;-)) ... Est-ce vraiment une bonne id&#233;e d'avoir un logo comme les drapeaux
+</I>&gt;<i> du Pakistan ou de la Turquie?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png">http://www.fepef.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_bordered.svg.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Un grand nombre de pavillon de pays (de culuture historique musulmane la
+</I>&gt;<i> plupart du temps) ont le croissant et l'&#233;toile parce que c'est un signe
+</I>&gt;<i> religieux. Voulez-vous qu'un gars dise tout de suite quand il regarde le
+</I>&gt;<i> logo: il s'agit d'un syst&#232;me d'exploitation musulman? Certainement pas. Tout
+</I>&gt;<i> le monde doit &#234;tre se reconna&#238;tre dans ce logo, dans cette distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> linux ... non seulement une partie.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> J'aime vraiment ce logo, mais seulement la version sans le croissant de
+</I>&gt;<i> lune. Sans cela, il reste clair et professionnel.
+</I>&gt;<i> Pourquoi ne pas garder l'&#233;toile invers&#233;e sur le &quot;i&quot; _ _ et un &quot;M&quot; en forme
+</I>&gt;<i> de pied de manchots, comme dans une autre proposition ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Si vous laissez le croissant sur ce logo et si vous adoptez ce logo, vous
+</I>&gt;<i> pouvez juste &#234;tre s&#251;r qu'aucun gouvernement ne va utiliser la distribution.
+</I>&gt;<i> Ne pas oublier que, en temps que distribution fran&#231;aise, Mandriva a &#233;t&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i> (est) utilis&#233;(e) par l'arm&#233;e fran&#231;aise d'aujourd'hui, et le minist&#232;re des
+</I>&gt;<i> imp&#244;ts. Ils doivent faire attention &#224; ne pas utiliser &#224; des outils portant
+</I>&gt;<i> des signes ostentatoires.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Je dis: Trop de signes apparentables &#224; des signes religieux dans le logo
+</I>&gt;<i> sont dangereux pour l'avenir de Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LoL ! Everything can be mis-interpreted. Please don't fall into a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hyper-correctness.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+A correction. Turkish flag is not religional sign but a historical
+fact. Moon and star founded in a war while Sultan Selim III ruled
+Ottoman Empire. The moon and star reflected on blood of dead Turkish
+soldiers and it excited others. That's why Turkish flag is moon and
+star on a red surface.
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Gmail doesn't do proper message threading like other email clients who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do it properly e.g. thunderbird or evolution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh, really? I did not know that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I repeat my earlier question what to do:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. I'm switching computers more than once a day. I do not have
+</I>&gt;<i> installation access to all of those, so using IMAP and installing a
+</I>&gt;<i> client with my access data on all machines I use is not an option.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. I'm travelling and sometimes I have to use internet caf&#233;s for net
+</I>&gt;<i> access. I can't use the machines there to access my IMAP account.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Over the last year I switched all my mail accounts to be gathered
+</I>&gt;<i> at Googlemail, because of the reasons I mentioned above.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not want to break threads and I want to follow the lists, so, any
+</I>&gt;<i> good advices what I can do?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+No, I think I wasn't clear enough (sorry about that).
+
+Go on using gmail like you do; I've been using it with all the
+Mandriva ML's for the past 1-2years (web mail via firefox, I didn't
+use any email clients) and I didn't get any complaints of breaking
+threads when I post/reply to the ML(s).
+
+You see, when sending emails gmail does send the message headers and
+everything properly.
+
+Gmail differs in just how it *groups* the received emails in threads
+(called conversations in the gmail world). The example I gave, about
+the bugs mailing list, is a good one, when the subject line changes
+gmail splits the thread (when you reply to an ML thread you're not
+changing the subject line); an email client would be more thorough and
+see that it's the same thread even though one word changed in the
+subject line (bugzilla adds the keyword to the subject line, e.g.
+NEEDINFO). But that's probably a corner case.
+
+FWIW, I've never used gmane, I subscribe to the various mailing lists
+directly. Also note that you haven't broken any threads with all the
+emails you sent up till now ;)
+
+--
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+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A correction. Turkish flag is not religional sign but a historical
+</I>&gt;<i> fact. Moon and star founded in a war while Sultan Selim III ruled
+</I>&gt;<i> Ottoman Empire. The moon and star reflected on blood of dead Turkish
+</I>&gt;<i> soldiers and it excited others. That's why Turkish flag is moon and
+</I>&gt;<i> star on a red surface.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes, but zealots of any stripe tend to not allow facts to contravene
+their beliefs.
+
+But th curve is nice. Perhaps it can be divided vertically and given a
+Mobius twist?
+
+And a Mobius-like symbol might better represent the ideals of Linux:
+fundamental, enigmatic, unending
+
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+&gt;<i> May I suggest to people who sent such messages that they be a little bit
+</I>&gt;<i> more friendly, and kindly explain what is a thread ( because not
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody know this ), and how to not break them ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And by the way, such messages would better be sent in private IMHO, this
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;is not related to the list.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Agreed.
+
+There should also be an &quot;official&quot; page of message rules where those
+who love to enforce them can direct those who love to break them.
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I do not want to break threads and I want to follow the lists, so, any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> good advices what I can do?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You could use web GMail always. It works fine for me. But it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because, as you, I user different machines. So I'd like to see always
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the same. I use web GMail only.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's what I've been doing for the time being but then I read that
+</I>&gt;<i> Gmail breaks threads and limits the length of a thread, as Ahmad Sahir
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote. :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The most critical point, as Ahmad said, is to never change the subject,
+as Gmail will then start a new thread.
+Google also starts a new thread after 100 messages, but that is much
+less of a problem.
+
+Note also that the default location for replies using Gmail by the web
+is BEFORE the message being replied to. To avoid &quot;top-posting&quot;
+(replying before), please ensure that you insert your replies AFTER the
+part you are replying to. This makes it much easier for others to
+follow the discussion, particularly if you are replying to multiple
+parts of the same message.
+And of course, deleting parts of the message to which you are not
+replying also helps others follow your point(s).
+- Andr&#233; :)
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+<PRE>On 28 September 2010 19:52, andr&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I do not want to break threads and I want to follow the lists, so, any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> good advices what I can do?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You could use web GMail always. It works fine for me. But it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> because, as you, I user different machines. So I'd like to see always
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the same. I use web GMail &#160;only.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's what I've been doing for the time being but then I read that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Gmail breaks threads and limits the length of a thread, as Ahmad Sahir
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote. :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The most critical point, as Ahmad said, is to never change the subject, as
+</I>&gt;<i> Gmail will then start a new thread.
+</I>&gt;<i> Google also starts a new thread after 100 messages, but that is much less of
+</I>&gt;<i> a problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note also that the default location for replies using Gmail by the web is
+</I>&gt;<i> BEFORE the message being replied to. &#160;To avoid &quot;top-posting&quot; (replying
+</I>&gt;<i> before), please ensure that you insert your replies AFTER the part you are
+</I>&gt;<i> replying to. &#160;This makes it much easier for others to follow the discussion,
+</I>&gt;<i> particularly if you are replying to multiple parts of the same message.
+</I>&gt;<i> And of course, deleting parts of the message to which you are not replying
+</I>&gt;<i> also helps others follow your point(s).
+</I>&gt;<i> - Andr&#233; :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Come on, I already know how to avoid top-posting (by not posting when
+I am on the roof (the top) of the house). :D (kidding).
+
+Yes, gmail doesn't give an option to default to bottom-posting but
+that just means a couple of extra mouse scrolls to bottom-post
+manually.
+
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+ <B>Hoyt Duff</B>
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+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, gmail doesn't give an option to default to bottom-posting but
+</I>&gt;<i> that just means a couple of extra mouse scrolls to bottom-post
+</I>&gt;<i> manually.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+There was an add-on to force bottom posting; I'm surprised that GMail
+does not offer hat opton.
+
+I use GMail because I routinely use multiple computers, not all of
+which are mine or are Linux.
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+&gt;<i> What usernet group to used in Gname.
+</I>
+ E.g. gmane.linux.mageia.devel
+ gmane.linux.mageia.user
+
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+ <B>Eden Caldas</B>
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+
+What will be the package management system? apt? yum? keep urpmi
+(nooooooooooooooooo!) ?
+
+Eden Caldas
+Consultor de TI
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eden at linuxfacil.srv.br</A>
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+Eden Caldas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eden at linuxfacil.org</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> What will be the package management system? apt? yum? keep urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> (nooooooooooooooooo!)
+</I>Like in mandriva: urpmi (mageia is a mandriva's fork)
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> Sorry if its been asked already.
+</I>(yes it has been, just yesterday, search the archive)
+&gt;<i> What will be the package management system? apt? yum? keep urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> (nooooooooooooooooo!) ?
+</I>
+urpmi is great, so there is no reason to change.
+
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+&gt;<i> Sorry if its been asked already.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> Sorry if its been asked already.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What will be the package management system? apt? yum? keep urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> (nooooooooooooooooo!) ?
+</I>
+It's a Mandriva fork, we keep what is in Mandriva. The plan is to have
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, Eden Caldas wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry if its been asked already.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What will be the package management system? apt? yum? keep urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (nooooooooooooooooo!) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a Mandriva fork, we keep what is in Mandriva. The plan is to have
+</I>&gt;<i> a new release ready as soon as possible, not to make big changes which
+</I>&gt;<i> will add a lot of delays.
+</I>
+to be fair, yum is already in the repository, so does smart.
+Apt-rpm is unmaintained, but if someone does the job of taking care of
+it, it could also be.
+
+And we also have poldek too, not sure about the status of this one.
+
+So, for people who are not happy with the default, do not hesitate to
+test others packages managers and report issues ( for example, yum does
+requires specific indexes that we do not provides at mandriva, but we
+could add them if required, i guess ).
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+</I>&gt;<i> Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 &#224; 20:02 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to be fair, yum is already in the repository, so does smart.
+</I>&gt;<i> Apt-rpm is unmaintained, but if someone does the job of taking care of
+</I>&gt;<i> it, it could also be.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And we also have poldek too, not sure about the status of this one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, for people who are not happy with the default, do not hesitate to
+</I>&gt;<i> test others packages managers and report issues ( for example, yum does
+</I>&gt;<i> requires specific indexes that we do not provides at mandriva, but we
+</I>&gt;<i> could add them if required, i guess ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As you have just brought up Smart here, I did remember about it and
+though about this.
+
+Some time ago, there was an employees from MandrakeSoft who was working
+on Smart and developping it just like RPMDrake has been developped up to
+now. Yet, back to the previous cost cutting plans the company already
+did, it was decided to only keep RPMDrake as main package manager and
+the employee working on Smart was fired, even though Smart was very
+popular at that time.
+
+Since then, looking at Smart's GUI, it looks like it has not been
+significantly improved since a long time. Lookign in the package's
+history, the fixes show it is maintained only to prevent it from being
+broken.
+
+I know there are several people who are not satisfied with RPMDrake,
+this because they prefer to have a package manager with a different
+philosophy or other kind if conception. I believe Smart could then be
+improved both in text and GUI if people are encouraged to develop and
+work on it. It could offer yet another approach then for package
+management.
+
+Yet, there will have also to be a lot of work on the DrakXtools as well,
+but helping Smart regaining some useful evolution might not be bad for
+people who want a more technically evolved package manager than
+RPMDrake, or something different. At least, I think it would make more
+sense to focus on both RPMDrake and Smart rather than asking for
+Synaptics or others.
+
+This is just a proposal, as I know it is still appreciated and was
+actively developped in the past. But if I got something wrong, please
+fix me then. :-)
+
+Skiper
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+&gt;<i> As you have just brought up Smart here, I did remember about it and
+</I>&gt;<i> though about this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some time ago, there was an employees from MandrakeSoft who was working
+</I>&gt;<i> on Smart and developping it just like RPMDrake has been developped up to
+</I>&gt;<i> now. Yet, back to the previous cost cutting plans the company already
+</I>&gt;<i> did, it was decided to only keep RPMDrake as main package manager and
+</I>&gt;<i> the employee working on Smart was fired, even though Smart was very
+</I>&gt;<i> popular at that time.
+</I>
+No.
+The guy you speak about is Gustavo Niemeyer, and he was not fired, he
+left for Canonical after being approached during Europython in 2006. He
+didn't worked long for Mandriva.
+
+There was some discussions of using smart on Ubuntu too, but Gustavo was
+assigned to work on landscape and storm
+( <A HREF="http://jamwow.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/my-work-at-canonical/">http://jamwow.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/my-work-at-canonical/</A> ).
+Someone from Canonical told me the orm ( ie storm ) was written for
+landscape and later launchpad was ported on it after storm was published
+as &quot;launchpad orm&quot; ( but they couldn't speak of Landscape at that
+time ).
+
+Now, he is working on openstack, afaik.
+
+And well, while smart was new and shiny with original features, I think
+&quot;being popular&quot; is a overstatement. Smart gui is clearly inspired by
+synaptics, and is a little bit too powerful and complex ( and a little
+bit buggy, I fill 4 bugs in 15 minutes of test :/ in that time ).
+
+
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+that I can enter can be no longer than:
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+'ASSO UTILISATEURS FRANCOPHON MAN'
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+(I copy/pasted into my bank application).
+
+Moreover, the IBAN was judged invalid due to the spaces in the number. Only
+when the spaces were removed did my bank accept it.
+
+Perhaps it might be wise to take this stuff into account. No doubt this
+might work differently when you use another bank than I did, but this
+is what I found.
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+Best regards,
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+ <B>Ma&#226;t</B>
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+<PRE>Le 28/09/2010 21:01, Dick Gevers a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> It is only minor, but when I send a donation via bank transfer, the name
+</I>&gt;<i> that I can enter can be no longer than:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 'ASSO UTILISATEURS FRANCOPHON MAN'
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I copy/pasted into my bank application).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Moreover, the IBAN was judged invalid due to the spaces in the number. Only
+</I>&gt;<i> when the spaces were removed did my bank accept it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps it might be wise to take this stuff into account. No doubt this
+</I>&gt;<i> might work differently when you use another bank than I did, but this
+</I>&gt;<i> is what I found.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> =Dick Gevers=
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi,
+
+Thanks for the report.
+
+If you use bank web application many of them are very minimalistic
+
+The model we gave on he website is the complete one thought to be used
+through fax or direct demand.
+
+If you use you bank e-form transfer order (as i do) you need to adapt to
+your bank limitations, ie often :
+
+=&gt; Using shorter name for receiver label
+=&gt; Removing spaces for IBAN
+=&gt; Shortening Mention to 30 or 50 chars
+
+It's very limitative but very few banks (afaik) made the effort to
+provide a correct order e-form.
+
+I found this rather rude too :-(
+
+Ma&#226;t
+
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+ <B>yvan munoz</B>
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+<PRE>I dont' know what is *the* best tool, and i dont i know if it have *a* best
+than others.
+
+
+I just hope that beyond the tool, it should change, the same quality on the
+dependency tree will be present. And in both senses of the tree.
+it's hard to find an example that does not require the troll, but for
+example I find it regrettable that uninstalling a package gtk entails
+uninstalling the core underneath, especially as this core is used by an
+application qt (no name) Or I do not like the tool I propose to install the
+world as it is just necessary to install three libraries (no name).
+
+Beyond the tool, I hope that the quality of management of dependencies will
+be preserved
+
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+ <B>Rory Albertyn</B>
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+
+We took a fresh modern simplistic look to the idea of a new logo. Items
+such as colour and font should have just as much meaning as the logo
+design itself. After a short bit of research, I was informed dark red is
+synonymous with a Mage(magician) in keeping with the Mageia slogan.
+
+Every aspect of application was taken into consideration, such as logo's
+banners, CD labels, t-shirts, business cards, favicons, link buttons,
+menu icons and such. These needed to work in multiple resolutions (as
+stated in the outlines on the website). Below is two examples of what
+have come to mind. Please take time to look and give your opinion. I
+feel very strong that such designs be a collaborative work of all
+involved. A 'one design fits all' approach.
+
+The colours, font, shape and proportions are not absolute and can be
+adjusted accordingly.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg">http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia2.jpg">http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia2.jpg</A>
+
+
+
+~ Rory Albertyn (Gripen on Freenode)
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+ <B>Thomas Lottmann</B>
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+<PRE>Le 28/09/2010 20:54, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 &#224; 20:34 +0200, Thomas Lottmann a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As you have just brought up Smart here, I did remember about it and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> though about this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some time ago, there was an employees from MandrakeSoft who was working
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on Smart and developping it just like RPMDrake has been developped up to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> now. Yet, back to the previous cost cutting plans the company already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> did, it was decided to only keep RPMDrake as main package manager and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the employee working on Smart was fired, even though Smart was very
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> popular at that time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No.
+</I>&gt;<i> The guy you speak about is Gustavo Niemeyer, and he was not fired, he
+</I>&gt;<i> left for Canonical after being approached during Europython in 2006. He
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't worked long for Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Okay, so my brain badly registered the explanations I got from that
+story. All my excuses...
+
+/me thinks of updating his brain's hardware conf to avoid this kind of
+stuff...
+
+&gt;<i> There was some discussions of using smart on Ubuntu too, but Gustavo was
+</I>&gt;<i> assigned to work on landscape and storm
+</I>&gt;<i> ( <A HREF="http://jamwow.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/my-work-at-canonical/">http://jamwow.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/my-work-at-canonical/</A> ).
+</I>&gt;<i> Someone from Canonical told me the orm ( ie storm ) was written for
+</I>&gt;<i> landscape and later launchpad was ported on it after storm was published
+</I>&gt;<i> as &quot;launchpad orm&quot; ( but they couldn't speak of Landscape at that
+</I>&gt;<i> time ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, he is working on openstack, afaik.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And well, while smart was new and shiny with original features, I think
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;being popular&quot; is a overstatement. Smart gui is clearly inspired by
+</I>&gt;<i> synaptics, and is a little bit too powerful and complex ( and a little
+</I>&gt;<i> bit buggy, I fill 4 bugs in 15 minutes of test :/ in that time ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thank you for retelling the sotry properly, I was not yet on Linux at
+that time. But I am still quite sure Smart was appreciated for a few
+points, not remembering them...
+
+As the GUI tool is bugged and, on my computer, apparently unusable, is
+it worth fixing it, maintain it, and eventually improve it? I mean,
+there may be a potential in such a powerful tool.
+
+Nothing urgent in that though, just thinking about it since there was
+this conversation.
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+<PRE>On Tuesday 28 September 2010 19:34:09 Thomas Lottmann wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 &#224; 20:02 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, for people who are not happy with the default, do not hesitate to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; test others packages managers and report issues ( for example, yum does
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; requires specific indexes that we do not provides at mandriva, but we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could add them if required, i guess ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ...[s]ince then, looking at Smart's GUI, it looks like it has not been
+</I>&gt;<i> significantly improved since a long time. Lookign in the package's
+</I>&gt;<i> history, the fixes show it is maintained only to prevent it from being
+</I>&gt;<i> broken...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>... I know there are several people who are not satisfied with RPMDrake,
+</I>&gt;<i> this because they prefer to have a package manager with a different
+</I>&gt;<i> philosophy or other kind if conception. I believe Smart could then be
+</I>&gt;<i> improved both in text and GUI if people are encouraged to develop and
+</I>&gt;<i> work on it. It could offer yet another approach then for package
+</I>&gt;<i> management.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Skiper
+</I>
+I confess to a quite high level of ignorance about package managers, as I have
+only ever known and used rpmdrake in its evolution since around 2000, but you
+have both said things to make me think that some of the frustrations I have
+experienced since 2008 Spring may be due to controllable features of the
+package manager.
+
+The simplest analysis tells us that rpmdrake does its job admirably; point,
+click and presto, your software is installed (OK, you may have to click a
+couple more times to agree to the selected packages list).
+
+How much better could it possibly do this? What am I missing? You have both
+mentioned alternatives, some of which I know by name, but in what way do apt,
+yum or smart do this job any better?
+
+I realise that package managers are needed because humans have to add some
+intelligence in the form of what libraries are needed to get a program to
+run. I also know that sometimes humans get this badly wrong (try removing a
+library that you know will never be used and ask yourself why rpmdrake wants
+to remove over 200 packages with it!). Do other package managers manage to
+avoid this embarassing and frustrating behaviour? or is it that it is just
+easier to get it right with package types other than rpm?
+
+Richard
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+ <B>Hoyt Duff</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Rory Albertyn &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rory.a at radiantnet.co.za</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The colours, font, shape and proportions are not absolute and can be
+</I>&gt;<i> adjusted accordingly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg">http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i> ~ Rory Albertyn (Gripen on Freenode)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ very nice
+
+
+--
+Hoyt
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+this is not really an answer to you, you just wrote the last posting in this
+threat...
+
+Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-09-28
+&gt;<i> Thank you for retelling the sotry properly, I was not yet on Linux at
+</I>&gt;<i> that time. But I am still quite sure Smart was appreciated for a few
+</I>&gt;<i> points, not remembering them...
+</I>That is the problem in this whole rpm vs. deb, urpmi vs. smart vs. apt,
+rpmdrake vs. synaptic thread. Nobody has given any reasons for changing away
+from rpm, urpmi and rpmdrake. And - working with many systems during my dayly
+life, yum, zypper, urpmi, aptitude, I don't see one of them superior to any of
+the others.
+At the company I'm working, we are using Debian-, OpenSuSE-, and CentOS-
+Servers as well as my Mandriva workstation. And I am doing administrative work
+on all of them.
+None of those systems has anything that would make me change away from the one
+I know best, which is Mandriva. So if nothing can give any technical reasons,
+this whole debate is useless!
+
+Oliver
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> Go on using gmail like you do; I've been using it with all the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva ML's for the past 1-2years (web mail via firefox, I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> use any email clients) and I didn't get any complaints of breaking
+</I>&gt;<i> threads when I post/reply to the ML(s).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You see, when sending emails gmail does send the message headers and
+</I>&gt;<i> everything properly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gmail differs in just how it *groups* the received emails in threads
+</I>&gt;<i> (called conversations in the gmail world). The example I gave, about
+</I>&gt;<i> the bugs mailing list, is a good one, when the subject line changes
+</I>&gt;<i> gmail splits the thread (when you reply to an ML thread you're not
+</I>&gt;<i> changing the subject line); an email client would be more thorough and
+</I>&gt;<i> see that it's the same thread even though one word changed in the
+</I>&gt;<i> subject line (bugzilla adds the keyword to the subject line, e.g.
+</I>&gt;<i> NEEDINFO). But that's probably a corner case.
+</I>[...]
+
+Not to mention that if you're using gmail and you send an email to a mailing
+list, you never know if it was delivered or not, because the mail you send is
+the start of the conversation, you never get your own email. If you'd use IMAP
+on gmail accounts, you'd see it much clearer, because instead of
+conversations, your sent email is in a Sent folder. (which sometimes leads to
+double emails on the list)
+
+I can understand that webbased emails are the best solution for some people,
+but it doesn't have to be gmail; noone is even saying you can't for example
+install a squirrelmail or similar on your home-server. (it's an option)
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+<PRE>W dniu 2010-09-28 22:07, Rory Albertyn pisze:
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg">http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg</A>
+</I>
+I do not like the font you used. It makes is difficult to read the name
+(especially the 'e' letter) and since Mageia is a non-English word, we
+should make the name visible at the first glance, without any doubts.
+Personally, I am (as are some other users) against using a decorated 'M'
+letter as our logo. We can develop something better, more unique.
+
+And a general remark... As the logo group has been created on flickr,
+could we keep and discuss all the projects over there? If every designer
+presents his/her logo in a new thread, it will become messy and what's
+worse, we're going to repeat the same arguments all over again. Once
+we've got a go from the board, there will be time and place to discuss
+all projects and vote for the best one.
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+<PRE>Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 &#224; 20:20 +0100, Richard a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> I confess to a quite high level of ignorance about package managers, as I have
+</I>&gt;<i> only ever known and used rpmdrake in its evolution since around 2000, but you
+</I>&gt;<i> have both said things to make me think that some of the frustrations I have
+</I>&gt;<i> experienced since 2008 Spring may be due to controllable features of the
+</I>&gt;<i> package manager.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The simplest analysis tells us that rpmdrake does its job admirably; point,
+</I>&gt;<i> click and presto, your software is installed (OK, you may have to click a
+</I>&gt;<i> couple more times to agree to the selected packages list).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How much better could it possibly do this? What am I missing? You have both
+</I>&gt;<i> mentioned alternatives, some of which I know by name, but in what way do apt,
+</I>&gt;<i> yum or smart do this job any better?
+</I>
+Well, apt is likely to be faster, c++ may be the cause.
+
+Smart is portable across type of repository. It also use a cleaner
+design or algorithm, according to his developer. Among nice features, it
+can draw graphs of the dependency, feature a command line shell or
+parallel downloads ( <A HREF="http://labix.org/smart/features">http://labix.org/smart/features</A> )
+
+Yum is likely the more different of the 3. Yum has auto update feature
+( ie, it doesn't have a update command ) has a plugin infrastructure
+( who permit to extend the core in nice way ), and is still developped.
+
+
+Now, the &quot;install package&quot;, &quot;remove package&quot; are basic features that all
+of them do. And I think that all packages managers are equal on that
+regard.
+
+&gt;<i> I realise that package managers are needed because humans have to add some
+</I>&gt;<i> intelligence in the form of what libraries are needed to get a program to
+</I>&gt;<i> run. I also know that sometimes humans get this badly wrong (try removing a
+</I>&gt;<i> library that you know will never be used and ask yourself why rpmdrake wants
+</I>&gt;<i> to remove over 200 packages with it!). Do other package managers manage to
+</I>&gt;<i> avoid this embarassing and frustrating behaviour? or is it that it is just
+</I>&gt;<i> easier to get it right with package types other than rpm?
+</I>
+Nope, the problem is not linked to rpm or deb. If a library is needed,
+it is needed, that's simple.
+
+A system like emerge or macports ( macports is also in contribs, afaik )
+may however reduce the required dependency, depending on the software.
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+Sending HTML email makes it very difficult to know what your opinions
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+
+Could you please send text-only email?
+
+Thank you in advance.
+
+
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+ <h1>28 September 2010 Archives by author</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 00:00:05 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 23:21:08 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 101<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001426.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001446.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community
+</A><A NAME="1446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001504.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001491.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001447.html">[Mageia-discuss] About dependency management (was: rpm or deb?)
+</A><A NAME="1447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001439.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen
+</A><A NAME="1439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tom&#224;s Deltell Bonell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001456.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001458.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001477.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001480.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001482.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001463.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001465.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001469.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001476.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001508.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001492.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eden Caldas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001493.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001444.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001436.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001468.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001418.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001419.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo
+</A><A NAME="1419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001420.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001433.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001434.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001435.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001437.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001486.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001487.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thread breaking ( Was: who knows about site mageia-br? )
+</A><A NAME="1487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001490.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001507.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001421.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tomasz Pawe&#322; Gajc
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001501.html">[Mageia-discuss] correct donation details
+</A><A NAME="1501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001451.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001459.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001464.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001473.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001481.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001427.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001452.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001475.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001411.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001431.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001498.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001450.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen
+</A><A NAME="1450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001467.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001483.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001441.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community
+</A><A NAME="1441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001499.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001505.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001494.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001413.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language
+</A><A NAME="1413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001414.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001415.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001470.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001510.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001438.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001455.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001461.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001416.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001445.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001502.html">[Mageia-discuss] correct donation details
+</A><A NAME="1502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001474.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001424.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dwight Paige
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001428.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dwight Paige
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001453.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luan Pham
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001429.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001430.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001506.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001448.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001460.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001457.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001462.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001440.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder
+</A><A NAME="1440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001471.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001472.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001485.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001489.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001417.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001442.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thread breaking ( Was: who knows about site mageia-br? )
+</A><A NAME="1442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001466.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001497.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001500.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001511.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001425.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001432.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001449.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001479.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001422.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001509.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001454.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David V. Wallin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001478.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001488.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001423.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001443.html">[Mageia-discuss] Serbian tranaslation
+</A><A NAME="1443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>miodragz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001495.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001503.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001484.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001496.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Sep 28 23:21:08 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 01:35:08 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
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+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
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+ <h1>28 September 2010 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 00:00:05 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 23:21:08 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 101<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001411.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001413.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language
+</A><A NAME="1413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001414.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001415.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001416.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001417.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001418.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001419.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo
+</A><A NAME="1419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001420.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001421.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tomasz Pawe&#322; Gajc
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001422.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001423.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001424.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dwight Paige
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001425.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001426.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001427.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001428.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dwight Paige
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001429.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001430.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001431.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001432.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001433.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001434.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001435.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001436.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001437.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001447.html">[Mageia-discuss] About dependency management (was: rpm or deb?)
+</A><A NAME="1447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001438.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001439.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen
+</A><A NAME="1439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tom&#224;s Deltell Bonell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001440.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder
+</A><A NAME="1440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001441.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community
+</A><A NAME="1441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001442.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thread breaking ( Was: who knows about site mageia-br? )
+</A><A NAME="1442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001443.html">[Mageia-discuss] Serbian tranaslation
+</A><A NAME="1443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>miodragz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001444.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001445.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001446.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community
+</A><A NAME="1446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001448.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001449.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001450.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen
+</A><A NAME="1450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001460.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001451.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001452.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001453.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luan Pham
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001457.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001454.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David V. Wallin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001455.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001456.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001462.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001458.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001459.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001461.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001468.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001464.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001463.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001466.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001467.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001465.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001470.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001469.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001471.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001472.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001473.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001474.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001475.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001477.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001476.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001478.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001479.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001480.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001481.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001482.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001491.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001483.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001484.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001485.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001486.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001487.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thread breaking ( Was: who knows about site mageia-br? )
+</A><A NAME="1487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001488.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001489.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001490.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001492.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eden Caldas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001493.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001494.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001495.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001496.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001497.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001498.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001499.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001500.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001501.html">[Mageia-discuss] correct donation details
+</A><A NAME="1501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001506.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001502.html">[Mageia-discuss] correct donation details
+</A><A NAME="1502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001503.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001504.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001509.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001505.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001507.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001508.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001510.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001511.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Sep 28 23:21:08 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 01:35:08 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>28 September 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 00:00:05 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 23:21:08 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 101<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001447.html">[Mageia-discuss] About dependency management (was: rpm or deb?)
+</A><A NAME="1447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001411.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001418.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001421.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tomasz Pawe&#322; Gajc
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001422.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001426.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001431.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001434.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001475.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001484.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001486.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001419.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo
+</A><A NAME="1419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001501.html">[Mageia-discuss] correct donation details
+</A><A NAME="1501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001502.html">[Mageia-discuss] correct donation details
+</A><A NAME="1502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001416.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001444.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001445.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001414.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001430.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001453.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luan Pham
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001466.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001491.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001413.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language
+</A><A NAME="1413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001415.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001417.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001424.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dwight Paige
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001440.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder
+</A><A NAME="1440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001504.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001507.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001510.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001420.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001423.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001428.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dwight Paige
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001432.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001433.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001436.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001437.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001448.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001449.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001460.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001457.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001478.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001479.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001498.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001492.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eden Caldas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001493.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001494.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001495.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001496.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001497.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001499.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001500.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001506.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001503.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001505.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001508.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001511.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001425.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001427.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001435.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001443.html">[Mageia-discuss] Serbian tranaslation
+</A><A NAME="1443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>miodragz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001441.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community
+</A><A NAME="1441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001446.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community
+</A><A NAME="1446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001439.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen
+</A><A NAME="1439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tom&#224;s Deltell Bonell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001450.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen
+</A><A NAME="1450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001442.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thread breaking ( Was: who knows about site mageia-br? )
+</A><A NAME="1442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001487.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thread breaking ( Was: who knows about site mageia-br? )
+</A><A NAME="1487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001454.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David V. Wallin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001455.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001456.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001462.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001458.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001459.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001461.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001468.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001464.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001463.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001467.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001465.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001470.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001469.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001473.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001474.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001477.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001476.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001429.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001438.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001451.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001452.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001471.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001472.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001480.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001481.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001482.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001483.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001485.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001488.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001489.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001490.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="001509.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Sep 28 23:21:08 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 01:35:08 CEST 2010</i>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>28 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 00:00:05 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 23:21:08 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 101<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01285624805- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001411.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285624805-01285631194- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001418.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285624805-01285631194-01285632249- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001421.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tomasz Pawe&#322; Gajc
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285624805-01285631194-01285632249-01285632501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001422.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285624805-01285631194-01285632249-01285632501-01285638598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001426.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285624805-01285631194-01285632249-01285632501-01285650361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001434.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285624805-01285631194-01285632249-01285683862- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001475.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285624805-01285631194-01285632249-01285683862-01285692005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001484.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285624805-01285631194-01285632249-01285683862-01285692005-01285692485- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001486.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01285624805-01285631194-01285646281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001431.html">[Mageia-discuss] An excellent logo for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="1431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285625060- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001413.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language
+</A><A NAME="1413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285625271- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001414.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285625271-01285641196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001430.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285625271-01285641196-01285675531- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001453.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luan Pham
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285625271-01285641196-01285675531-01285677628- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001466.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285625271-01285641196-01285675531-01285690715- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001491.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads
+</A><A NAME="1491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285626245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001415.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285626245-01285629410- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001417.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285627074- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001416.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285627074-01285665245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001444.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285627074-01285665245-01285665891- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001445.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish
+</A><A NAME="1445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285631271- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001419.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo
+</A><A NAME="1419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285631712- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001420.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285631712-01285634603- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001423.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>ed
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285635610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001424.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic
+</A><A NAME="1424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dwight Paige
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285637689- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001425.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285637689-01285638876- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001427.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ireneusz Gierlach
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285637689-01285638876-01285650710- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001435.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?
+</A><A NAME="1435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285639471- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001428.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name &quot;mageia&quot;?
+</A><A NAME="1428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dwight Paige
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285640548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001429.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285647961- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001432.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285647961-01285650201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001433.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285647961-01285650201-01285654014- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001436.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285647961-01285650201-01285654014-01285654746- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001437.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285647961-01285669722- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001448.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285647961-01285669722-01285672579- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001449.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285647961-01285669722-01285672579-01285675047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001460.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285647961-01285669722-01285672579-01285676024- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001457.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285647961-01285669722-01285672579-01285676024-01285683105- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sinner from the Prairy
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285647961-01285669722-01285672579-01285676024-01285698129- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001498.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285647961-01285669722-01285672579-01285686820- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001478.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285647961-01285669722-01285672579-01285686820-01285687465- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001479.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal
+</A><A NAME="1479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Binary Trance
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285655057- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001447.html">[Mageia-discuss] About dependency management (was: rpm or deb?)
+</A><A NAME="1447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Le Berre
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285660722- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001438.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285660722-01285663677- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001442.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thread breaking ( Was: who knows about site mageia-br? )
+</A><A NAME="1442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285660722-01285663677-01285692705- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001487.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thread breaking ( Was: who knows about site mageia-br? )
+</A><A NAME="1487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285660722-01285675182- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001451.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285660722-01285675182-01285675427- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001452.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001471.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285678250- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001472.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285687613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001480.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285687613-01285688106- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001481.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285687613-01285688106-01285688400- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001482.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285687613-01285688106-01285688400-01285690860- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001483.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285687613-01285688106-01285688400-01285692755- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001488.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andr&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285687613-01285688106-01285688400-01285692755-01285693295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001489.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285687613-01285688106-01285688400-01285692755-01285693295-01285694256- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001490.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285687613-01285692141- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001485.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285660722-01285675182-01285678216-01285687613-01285692141-01285704962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001509.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?
+</A><A NAME="1509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285660869- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001439.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen
+</A><A NAME="1439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tom&#224;s Deltell Bonell
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285661582- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001440.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder
+</A><A NAME="1440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285661635- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001441.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community
+</A><A NAME="1441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285661635-01285669287- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001446.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community
+</A><A NAME="1446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285665022- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001443.html">[Mageia-discuss] Serbian tranaslation
+</A><A NAME="1443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>miodragz
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285674639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001450.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen
+</A><A NAME="1450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285676032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001454.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David V. Wallin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285676032-01285676268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001455.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285676032-01285676268-01285676518- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001458.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285676032-01285676268-01285676518-01285676658- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001461.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01285676032-01285676268-01285677994- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001470.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285676032-01285676309- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001456.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285676032-01285676309-01285676666- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001468.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285676032-01285676315- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001462.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285676032-01285676315-01285677818- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001465.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285676032-01285676605- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001459.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285676032-01285676605-01285677384- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001464.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285676032-01285676605-01285677384-01285677689- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001467.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01285676032-01285676605-01285678195- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001469.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285676032-01285676605-01285678195-01285678305- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001473.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285676032-01285676605-01285678195-01285678305-01285678826- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001474.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Miguel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285676032-01285676605-01285678195-01285678305-01285678826-01285686635- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001476.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285676032-01285676605-01285678195-01285678305-01285678826-01285686635-01285686611- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001477.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285676032-01285677509- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001463.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285695930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001492.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eden Caldas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285695930-01285696190- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001493.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01285695930-01285696288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001494.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud MICHEL
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01285695930-01285696598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001495.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01285695930-01285696962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001496.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285695930-01285696962-01285697493- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001497.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285695930-01285696962-01285697493-01285698849- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001499.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285695930-01285696962-01285697493-01285698849-01285700075- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001500.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285695930-01285696962-01285697493-01285698849-01285700075-01285703448- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001503.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>yvan munoz
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285695930-01285696962-01285697493-01285698849-01285700075-01285705253- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001505.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285695930-01285696962-01285697493-01285698849-01285700075-01285705253-01285706110- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001508.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285695930-01285696962-01285697493-01285698849-01285701637- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001506.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285695930-01285696962-01285697493-01285698849-01285701637-01285708868- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001511.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system
+</A><A NAME="1511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285700509- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001501.html">[Mageia-discuss] correct donation details
+</A><A NAME="1501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285700509-01285701861- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001502.html">[Mageia-discuss] correct donation details
+</A><A NAME="1502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285704433- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001504.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rory Albertyn
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285704433-01285705530- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001507.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01285704433-01285707999- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001510.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal
+</A><A NAME="1510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Sep 28 23:21:08 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 01:35:08 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
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