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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4da2553e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,54 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sinner from the Prairy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sinnerbofh@gmail.com">sinnerbofh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<div class="im">Fabrice Facorat wrote:<br> +<br> +> 2010/10/1 Romain d'Alverny<br> +> <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>:<br> +</div>(...)<br> +<div class="im">>> Both (substance, appearance) are crucial. If you only consider one<br> +>> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're not<br> +>> going down the right path. The interface, the whole experience with it<br> +>> is the product.<br> +><br> +> sure, but appearance is the key point.<br> +><br> +> Archos is a good example of what we should not do ...<br> +><br> +> I'm still amazed by the technicals limits of the iPhone, and how<br> +> people can still want to buy them ... same for iPod ...<br> +><br> +> iPod : no mp3, no FM radio, no USB mass storage support<br> +> iPhone : no standard visio, no ability to create without iTunes or<br> +> third party tools photo albums, less capable facebook integration, no<br> +> FM radio, no flash, and so on ...<br> +<br> +</div>iProducts don't have all the bullet points, all the technical specs that an<br> +UberGeek would like.<br> +<br> +But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the<br> +ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant.<br> +<br> +By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of<br> +having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular<br> +people (95% of the population) like their products.<br> +<br> +Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task<br> +extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every<br> +single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the<br> +rest of the tools and look'n'feel.<br> +<br> +Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome.<br> +draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well.<br> +<br> +IMHO, Mageia should improve on Mandriva, not try to get just "bullet points"<br> +on what our distro does.<br> +<br> +Let's pick our battles, go the Unix way, make sure what Mageia does, it does<br> +very well. And as Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux, it will do everything<br> +else as well (and the kitchen sink).<br> +<br> +<br> +Salut,<br> +<font color="#888888">Sinner<br> +<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>IMHO, a home user would have one major DE, KDE or Gnome or other. I think it is unlikely to change it (maybe once in 10 years). The key in appearance is to have a nice aspect in each DE rather be the same look in Gnome or KDE or other. I guess that each environment will fit some user's taste in its native look.<br> +The Drake tools must be cross DE and consistent.<br>Mac OS is an unix derivative. I love their look and ergonomy. They have a serious team of ergonomists and designers. This is what a Linux distro needs to be successful. i.e. Mageia. The IMHO, Apple products are too expensive, a regular PC at the same performance and of a acceptable quality offers the same for a half of the price. And you could renew it faster for the same money. Their apps are brilliant from usability point of view and very good looking. They focus on a very limited hardware in variety. This is their advantage. Their hardware is also the best in quality (this is why they cost so much also). I prefer open source though.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4da2553e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,54 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sinner from the Prairy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sinnerbofh@gmail.com">sinnerbofh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<div class="im">Fabrice Facorat wrote:<br> +<br> +> 2010/10/1 Romain d'Alverny<br> +> <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>:<br> +</div>(...)<br> +<div class="im">>> Both (substance, appearance) are crucial. If you only consider one<br> +>> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're not<br> +>> going down the right path. The interface, the whole experience with it<br> +>> is the product.<br> +><br> +> sure, but appearance is the key point.<br> +><br> +> Archos is a good example of what we should not do ...<br> +><br> +> I'm still amazed by the technicals limits of the iPhone, and how<br> +> people can still want to buy them ... same for iPod ...<br> +><br> +> iPod : no mp3, no FM radio, no USB mass storage support<br> +> iPhone : no standard visio, no ability to create without iTunes or<br> +> third party tools photo albums, less capable facebook integration, no<br> +> FM radio, no flash, and so on ...<br> +<br> +</div>iProducts don't have all the bullet points, all the technical specs that an<br> +UberGeek would like.<br> +<br> +But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the<br> +ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant.<br> +<br> +By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of<br> +having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular<br> +people (95% of the population) like their products.<br> +<br> +Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task<br> +extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every<br> +single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the<br> +rest of the tools and look'n'feel.<br> +<br> +Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome.<br> +draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well.<br> +<br> +IMHO, Mageia should improve on Mandriva, not try to get just "bullet points"<br> +on what our distro does.<br> +<br> +Let's pick our battles, go the Unix way, make sure what Mageia does, it does<br> +very well. And as Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux, it will do everything<br> +else as well (and the kitchen sink).<br> +<br> +<br> +Salut,<br> +<font color="#888888">Sinner<br> +<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>IMHO, a home user would have one major DE, KDE or Gnome or other. I think it is unlikely to change it (maybe once in 10 years). The key in appearance is to have a nice aspect in each DE rather be the same look in Gnome or KDE or other. I guess that each environment will fit some user's taste in its native look.<br> +The Drake tools must be cross DE and consistent.<br>Mac OS is an unix derivative. I love their look and ergonomy. They have a serious team of ergonomists and designers. This is what a Linux distro needs to be successful. i.e. Mageia. The IMHO, Apple products are too expensive, a regular PC at the same performance and of a acceptable quality offers the same for a half of the price. And you could renew it faster for the same money. Their apps are brilliant from usability point of view and very good looking. They focus on a very limited hardware in variety. This is their advantage. Their hardware is also the best in quality (this is why they cost so much also). I prefer open source though.<br> |