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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/0f26425e/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/0f26425e/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ba98b9f38 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/0f26425e/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Michael Scherer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> + People that have a preferred browser know how to install it,<br> +those that don't do not care enough.<br> +--<br> +<font color="#888888">Michael Scherer<br> +<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>True, I'm just lazy, I will always use FF and I would have liked to have it setup at OS install. A choice from a list would have been fine for me, in order to have it installed at the first login already.<br> +I.e. to depend on the admin/person that performs the OS install, rather than end-user, that could be the same.<br>There is no distro having all the apps in the world. Some generally preferred (i.e. having enough users of that distro on their side) are always in list. Like Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Konqueror and so. Not all the similar apps made ever in the world.<br> +A poll to see if there is anybody interested in some app to come with the distro would be nice. This would make the difference from the good old MDV policy.<br>I truly hope to be possible to propose and vote some apps to be included in the distro.<br> +I know it is hard for packagers and testers. I work in this field.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/0f26425e/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/0f26425e/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ba98b9f38 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/0f26425e/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Michael Scherer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> + People that have a preferred browser know how to install it,<br> +those that don't do not care enough.<br> +--<br> +<font color="#888888">Michael Scherer<br> +<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>True, I'm just lazy, I will always use FF and I would have liked to have it setup at OS install. A choice from a list would have been fine for me, in order to have it installed at the first login already.<br> +I.e. to depend on the admin/person that performs the OS install, rather than end-user, that could be the same.<br>There is no distro having all the apps in the world. Some generally preferred (i.e. having enough users of that distro on their side) are always in list. Like Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Konqueror and so. Not all the similar apps made ever in the world.<br> +A poll to see if there is anybody interested in some app to come with the distro would be nice. This would make the difference from the good old MDV policy.<br>I truly hope to be possible to propose and vote some apps to be included in the distro.<br> +I know it is hard for packagers and testers. I work in this field.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/29142861/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/29142861/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3d07cfe45 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/29142861/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkynbRUACgkQk29cDOWzfVCY1ACeI0wvGXgwgzFj64HZKWvMCQ93 +cYkAn2PRye/u3aiBlTkamuGt5W2Ja6jD +=5arG +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/29142861/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/29142861/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3d07cfe45 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/29142861/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkynbRUACgkQk29cDOWzfVCY1ACeI0wvGXgwgzFj64HZKWvMCQ93 +cYkAn2PRye/u3aiBlTkamuGt5W2Ja6jD +=5arG +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/41da8a17/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/41da8a17/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f7a80a693 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/41da8a17/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/2 Mihai Dobrescu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msdobrescu@gmail.com">msdobrescu@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gustavo Giampaoli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com" target="_blank">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"> + +Why not to use something like this?<br> +<br> +<a href="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg</a><br> +<br> +MS implemented it at Europe because they forced to. We could do it to<br> +be more "democratic"?<br> +<br> +Cheers!<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +<br> +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>This is the best solution, imho.<br>As in the database servers case (you choose for postgres, mysql or both at install time).<br> +</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all">To define the default browser is very easy and fast in KDE enviroment (systemsettings → Default Applications)<div>I dont think anything else about the default browser could add more comfort than this.</div> +<div><br></div><div>About browsers, i use konqueror and rekonq to be full integrated in KDE, but there are still issues in both of them. May be later, one of them will take the place of Firefox as the default.  <br><br></div> +<div><br></div><div>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br> +</div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/41da8a17/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/41da8a17/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f7a80a693 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/41da8a17/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/2 Mihai Dobrescu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msdobrescu@gmail.com">msdobrescu@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gustavo Giampaoli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com" target="_blank">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"> + +Why not to use something like this?<br> +<br> +<a href="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg</a><br> +<br> +MS implemented it at Europe because they forced to. We could do it to<br> +be more "democratic"?<br> +<br> +Cheers!<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +<br> +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>This is the best solution, imho.<br>As in the database servers case (you choose for postgres, mysql or both at install time).<br> +</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all">To define the default browser is very easy and fast in KDE enviroment (systemsettings → Default Applications)<div>I dont think anything else about the default browser could add more comfort than this.</div> +<div><br></div><div>About browsers, i use konqueror and rekonq to be full integrated in KDE, but there are still issues in both of them. May be later, one of them will take the place of Firefox as the default.  <br><br></div> +<div><br></div><div>-- <br><div>Dimitrios Glentadakis</div><br> +</div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/4722229b/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/4722229b/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..791f496b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/4722229b/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gustavo Giampaoli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +Why not to use something like this?<br> +<br> +<a href="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg</a><br> +<br> +MS implemented it at Europe because they forced to. We could do it to<br> +be more "democratic"?<br> +<br> +Cheers!<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +<br> +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>This is the best solution, imho.<br>As in the database servers case (you choose for postgres, mysql or both at install time).<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/4722229b/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/4722229b/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..791f496b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/4722229b/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gustavo Giampaoli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +Why not to use something like this?<br> +<br> +<a href="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg</a><br> +<br> +MS implemented it at Europe because they forced to. We could do it to<br> +be more "democratic"?<br> +<br> +Cheers!<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +<br> +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>This is the best solution, imho.<br>As in the database servers case (you choose for postgres, mysql or both at install time).<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/6b183435/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/6b183435/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a9de7bff5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/6b183435/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/2 Fabrice Facorat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fabrice.facorat@gmail.com">fabrice.facorat@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy <<a href="mailto:sinnerbofh@gmail.com">sinnerbofh@gmail.com</a>>:<br> +<div class="im">> Fabrice Facorat wrote:<br> +<br> +<br> +> But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the<br> +> ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant.<br> +><br> +> By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of<br> +> having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular<br> +> people (95% of the population) like their products.<br> +<br> +</div>you're 100% right<br> +<div class="im"><br> +> Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task<br> +> extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every<br> +> single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the<br> +> rest of the tools and look'n'feel.<br> +><br> +> Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome.<br> +> draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well.<br> +<br> +</div>some tools does not work correctly however and are buggy<br><br></blockquote><div> </div><div>Better is to fix them instead of rewrite all.<br></div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/6b183435/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/6b183435/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a9de7bff5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/6b183435/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/2 Fabrice Facorat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fabrice.facorat@gmail.com">fabrice.facorat@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy <<a href="mailto:sinnerbofh@gmail.com">sinnerbofh@gmail.com</a>>:<br> +<div class="im">> Fabrice Facorat wrote:<br> +<br> +<br> +> But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the<br> +> ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant.<br> +><br> +> By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of<br> +> having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular<br> +> people (95% of the population) like their products.<br> +<br> +</div>you're 100% right<br> +<div class="im"><br> +> Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task<br> +> extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every<br> +> single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the<br> +> rest of the tools and look'n'feel.<br> +><br> +> Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome.<br> +> draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well.<br> +<br> +</div>some tools does not work correctly however and are buggy<br><br></blockquote><div> </div><div>Better is to fix them instead of rewrite all.<br></div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/b8ecd421/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/b8ecd421/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..666e0e82c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/b8ecd421/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAkynefYACgkQqEs9DA4DquCPegCeOxZrPAmYn+eQxNxqHxRQjeLZ +6oAAoIarIURBy4kbNE8sI03atYH9alXB +=mllR +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/b8ecd421/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/b8ecd421/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..666e0e82c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/b8ecd421/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAkynefYACgkQqEs9DA4DquCPegCeOxZrPAmYn+eQxNxqHxRQjeLZ +6oAAoIarIURBy4kbNE8sI03atYH9alXB +=mllR +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4da2553e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,54 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sinner from the Prairy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sinnerbofh@gmail.com">sinnerbofh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<div class="im">Fabrice Facorat wrote:<br> +<br> +> 2010/10/1 Romain d'Alverny<br> +> <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>:<br> +</div>(...)<br> +<div class="im">>> Both (substance, appearance) are crucial. If you only consider one<br> +>> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're not<br> +>> going down the right path. The interface, the whole experience with it<br> +>> is the product.<br> +><br> +> sure, but appearance is the key point.<br> +><br> +> Archos is a good example of what we should not do ...<br> +><br> +> I'm still amazed by the technicals limits of the iPhone, and how<br> +> people can still want to buy them ... same for iPod ...<br> +><br> +> iPod : no mp3, no FM radio, no USB mass storage support<br> +> iPhone : no standard visio, no ability to create without iTunes or<br> +> third party tools photo albums, less capable facebook integration, no<br> +> FM radio, no flash,  and so on ...<br> +<br> +</div>iProducts don't have all the bullet points, all the technical specs that an<br> +UberGeek would like.<br> +<br> +But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the<br> +ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant.<br> +<br> +By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of<br> +having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular<br> +people (95% of the population) like their products.<br> +<br> +Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task<br> +extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every<br> +single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the<br> +rest of the tools and look'n'feel.<br> +<br> +Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome.<br> +draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well.<br> +<br> +IMHO, Mageia should improve on Mandriva, not try to get just "bullet points"<br> +on what our distro does.<br> +<br> +Let's pick our battles, go the Unix way, make sure what Mageia does, it does<br> +very well. And as Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux, it will do everything<br> +else as well (and the kitchen sink).<br> +<br> +<br> +Salut,<br> +<font color="#888888">Sinner<br> +<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>IMHO, a home user would have one major DE, KDE or Gnome or other. I think it is unlikely to change it (maybe once in 10 years). The key in appearance is to have a nice aspect in each DE rather be the same look in Gnome or KDE or other. I guess that each environment will fit some user's taste in its native look.<br> +The Drake tools must be cross DE and consistent.<br>Mac OS is an unix derivative. I love their look and ergonomy. They have a serious team of ergonomists and designers. This is what a Linux distro needs to be successful. i.e. Mageia. The IMHO, Apple products are too expensive, a regular PC at the same performance and of a acceptable quality offers the same for a half of the price. And you could renew it faster for the same money. Their apps are brilliant from usability point of view and very good looking. They focus on a very limited hardware in variety. This is their advantage. Their hardware is also the best in quality (this is why they cost so much also). I prefer open source though.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4da2553e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/d21f130c/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,54 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sinner from the Prairy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sinnerbofh@gmail.com">sinnerbofh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<div class="im">Fabrice Facorat wrote:<br> +<br> +> 2010/10/1 Romain d'Alverny<br> +> <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>>:<br> +</div>(...)<br> +<div class="im">>> Both (substance, appearance) are crucial. If you only consider one<br> +>> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're not<br> +>> going down the right path. The interface, the whole experience with it<br> +>> is the product.<br> +><br> +> sure, but appearance is the key point.<br> +><br> +> Archos is a good example of what we should not do ...<br> +><br> +> I'm still amazed by the technicals limits of the iPhone, and how<br> +> people can still want to buy them ... same for iPod ...<br> +><br> +> iPod : no mp3, no FM radio, no USB mass storage support<br> +> iPhone : no standard visio, no ability to create without iTunes or<br> +> third party tools photo albums, less capable facebook integration, no<br> +> FM radio, no flash,  and so on ...<br> +<br> +</div>iProducts don't have all the bullet points, all the technical specs that an<br> +UberGeek would like.<br> +<br> +But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the<br> +ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant.<br> +<br> +By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of<br> +having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular<br> +people (95% of the population) like their products.<br> +<br> +Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task<br> +extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every<br> +single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the<br> +rest of the tools and look'n'feel.<br> +<br> +Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome.<br> +draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well.<br> +<br> +IMHO, Mageia should improve on Mandriva, not try to get just "bullet points"<br> +on what our distro does.<br> +<br> +Let's pick our battles, go the Unix way, make sure what Mageia does, it does<br> +very well. And as Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux, it will do everything<br> +else as well (and the kitchen sink).<br> +<br> +<br> +Salut,<br> +<font color="#888888">Sinner<br> +<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>IMHO, a home user would have one major DE, KDE or Gnome or other. I think it is unlikely to change it (maybe once in 10 years). The key in appearance is to have a nice aspect in each DE rather be the same look in Gnome or KDE or other. I guess that each environment will fit some user's taste in its native look.<br> +The Drake tools must be cross DE and consistent.<br>Mac OS is an unix derivative. I love their look and ergonomy. They have a serious team of ergonomists and designers. This is what a Linux distro needs to be successful. i.e. Mageia. The IMHO, Apple products are too expensive, a regular PC at the same performance and of a acceptable quality offers the same for a half of the price. And you could renew it faster for the same money. Their apps are brilliant from usability point of view and very good looking. They focus on a very limited hardware in variety. This is their advantage. Their hardware is also the best in quality (this is why they cost so much also). I prefer open source though.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/fc5e54ba/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/fc5e54ba/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d506c6aee --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/fc5e54ba/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/2 Olivier Thauvin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org">nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +The futur of internet need you !<br> +<br> +The goal of the EPOLL project was to write an OSS software to perform<br> +vote, respecting everything you can expect about a vote (anonymous<br> +ballot, delay, transparency).<br> +<br> +It seems the software will be use by Mageia (it has been also used by<br> +the University of Versailles-St Quentin and mandrivafr).<br> +<br> +The first version has been written because it has been decided at my<br> +work to elect people using a web application.<br> +<br> +As consequence of this, Epoll has been mostly written in... French<br> +(sorry :).<br> +<br> +The next version will included several new features, one of them is<br> +the support of I18N \o/.<br> +<br> +I am now looking for people to translate it (and fixing my english, very<br> +good as may see in my email :).<br> +<br> +The software is written in PERL + Postgresql.<br> +<br> +The project URL: <a href="https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll" target="_blank">https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll</a> (French /o\)<br> +The devel SVN tree: <a href="http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/" target="_blank">http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/</a> (ro)<br> +<br> +Patch are welcome.<br> +If you need help to add the new language, just mail me.<br> +<br> +Regards.<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div><br>Hi,<br>I'd like to help with the English version. I know neither PERL nor Postgresql, but I may be able to do some translation.<br>As a French student, I find it harder to translate from French to English than the other way, but if there are some proofreaders and/or other translators, it should be okay.<br> +<br>Regards,<br>Rémi V.<br></div></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/fc5e54ba/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/fc5e54ba/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d506c6aee --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/fc5e54ba/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/2 Olivier Thauvin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org">nanardon@nanardon.zarb.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +The futur of internet need you !<br> +<br> +The goal of the EPOLL project was to write an OSS software to perform<br> +vote, respecting everything you can expect about a vote (anonymous<br> +ballot, delay, transparency).<br> +<br> +It seems the software will be use by Mageia (it has been also used by<br> +the University of Versailles-St Quentin and mandrivafr).<br> +<br> +The first version has been written because it has been decided at my<br> +work to elect people using a web application.<br> +<br> +As consequence of this, Epoll has been mostly written in... French<br> +(sorry :).<br> +<br> +The next version will included several new features, one of them is<br> +the support of I18N \o/.<br> +<br> +I am now looking for people to translate it (and fixing my english, very<br> +good as may see in my email :).<br> +<br> +The software is written in PERL + Postgresql.<br> +<br> +The project URL: <a href="https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll" target="_blank">https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll</a> (French /o\)<br> +The devel SVN tree: <a href="http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/" target="_blank">http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/</a> (ro)<br> +<br> +Patch are welcome.<br> +If you need help to add the new language, just mail me.<br> +<br> +Regards.<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div><br>Hi,<br>I'd like to help with the English version. I know neither PERL nor Postgresql, but I may be able to do some translation.<br>As a French student, I find it harder to translate from French to English than the other way, but if there are some proofreaders and/or other translators, it should be okay.<br> +<br>Regards,<br>Rémi V.<br></div></div><br> |