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I thought +</I>>>><i> it was odd that the idea of obsoleting them came up +</I>>><i> yesterday in the packager +</I>>>><i> meeting, but it did. The main reason was wanting +</I>>><i> to know if rsyslog should +</I>>>><i> still be on the DVD, in case of users using it to +</I>>><i> upgrade from Mageia 2. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> It may be the case that not upgrading that particular +</I>>><i> package during the DVD +</I>>>><i> upgrade won't *break* anything and it can just be +</I>>><i> upgraded after the system +</I>>>><i> is booted and urpmi sources are added, in which case it +</I>>><i> doesn't *need* to be +</I>>>><i> on the DVD. Otherwise, we should make sure it's +</I>>><i> on there. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What I guess we could to to avoid putting rsyslog on the +</I>>><i> physical media +</I>>><i> would be to put a versioned conflicts in the main systemd +</I>>><i> package with +</I>>><i> rsyslog and syslog-ng. Thus the old packages should be +</I>>><i> removed when +</I>>><i> upgrading (AIUI). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't agree with unexpectedly forcibly removing it from people's systems. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do we even know if it hurts anything to leave the mga2 package installed for a few minutes? +</I> +rsyslog and it's packaging in relation to systemd has certainly changed +a lot... dunno exactly how much harm it would do but it would be a +combination we'd need to cover in QA to make sure. + +Better if it can just be avoided if possible (i.e. include it on the +physical media for now). + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="022597.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="022608.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#22598">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#22598">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#22598">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#22598">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |