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And we NEED to reduce this number. So let's only +</I>><i> > decide if DVD keeps without nonfree or not. A poll? Both choices will +</I>><i> > keep the same numbers of medias. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sorry, my response got somewhat easy to misunderstand :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I meant it only as a response to the: +</I>><i> "it seems much less likely that 64-bit users will have the download +</I>><i> bandwidth problems of many 32-bit users." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > As far as I can see, the easiest way to REDUCE media number is to switch +</I>><i> > Live medias from 700MB to at most DVD size : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - It removes the different localized version, it is 40% medias less. +</I>><i> > - It does not remove ALL CD-R solutions, as we long as keep DualArch and +</I>><i> > boot.iso media. +</I>><i> > - It fits in most current USB keys (4GB is the lowest size I can see in +</I>><i> > shops). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But many people have only 1-2GB sticks they could re-use ... +</I>><i> Not everyone can go out and buy new hw all the time... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And the downside of getting bigger live images is that they +</I>><i> do get slower to boot... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Yes, it removes supports for some old hardware solutions, which I +</I>><i> > install often, but we can't keep testing 19 medias. We have still lack +</I>><i> > of QA people! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, I know... I've been doing ISO qa :) +</I>><i> we do need to reduce the media sets... +</I>><i> which is why I earlier in this thread suggested: +</I>><i> - 1 i586 GNOME english liveCD ("works everywhere") +</I>><i> - 1 i586 KDE english liveCD ("works everywhere") +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - 1 i586 GNOME all-lang liveDVD +</I>><i> - 1 i586 KDE all-lang liveDVD +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - 1 x86_64 GNOME all-lang liveDVD +</I>><i> - 1 x86_64 KDE all-lang liveDVD +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That would bring the live* media down from 16 -> 6 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And as data point... +</I>><i> With current mga2 livecd package config, building a liveDVD for one +</I>><i> arch/DE results in a liveDVD image with ~ 1GB image size +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we squash more than one DE on the same liveDVD there will be some +</I>><i> questions: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - Which DM will we use ? GDM? KDM? XDM? ...? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then we get the complaints: +</I>><i> - "why should I need to download KDE stuff when I want GNOME"? +</I>><i> - "why should I need to download GNOME stuff when I want KDE"? +</I>><i> - "why ..." +</I> +how about adding 32bit/64bit to one liveDVD, bringing total livemedia to 4 ? + + + + +><i> and the technical side: +</I>><i> - stuffing more than one DE on liveDVDs means altering build process, +</I>><i> also giving more problem for little if any gain.... +</I>><i> - every DE on liveDVDs still need to be validated, so no less testing/QA +</I>><i> - it means testing G/K/XDM starting GNOME/KDE/... so no less testing/QA +</I>><i> - ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thomas +</I></PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="018884.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 final set of isos +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="018900.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 final set of isos +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#18894">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#18894">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#18894">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#18894">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |