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Yet +</I>>><i> Jack2 is +</I>>><i> > simply another implementation in C++ of the Jack protocol, and not +</I>>><i> a +</I>>><i> > newer version (as the official website also states clearly: +</I>>><i> > <A HREF="http://trac.jackaudio.org/**wiki/Q_differenc_jack1_jack2<http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/Q_differenc_jack1_jack2">http://trac.jackaudio.org/**wiki/Q_differenc_jack1_jack2<http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/Q_differenc_jack1_jack2</A>>). +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Plus I had a very annoying bug with Ardour when using Jack2, and +</I>>><i> people +</I>>><i> > on Ardour mailing list told me it was a known issue with Jack2 +</I>>><i> (both +</I>>><i> > Ardour and Jack2 were installed from the Mageia 2 packages). I +</I>>><i> compiled +</I>>><i> > Jack1, and it indeed fixed the issue. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > So I am thinking on proposing a spec for Jack1. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > But then I have questions: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > 1/ How should I name this package? The jack2 package is named +</I>>><i> "jackit" +</I>>><i> > and I have no idea where you got that from (I guess this is a +</I>>><i> shorter +</I>>><i> > name for "Jack Audio Connection Kit", but should we really change +</I>>><i> > package names this way? +</I>>><i> > It is not that long). The official alternative +</I>>><i> > name of Jack2 is "jackdmp" (see README here: +</I>>><i> > <A HREF="https://github.com/jackaudio/**jack2<https://github.com/jackaudio/jack2">https://github.com/jackaudio/**jack2<https://github.com/jackaudio/jack2</A>>). I saw nowhere else this +</I>>><i> "jackit" +</I>>><i> > naming. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> We inherit this from Mandrake : in the early years of Mandrake a jack +</I>>><i> package already existed but it had nothing to do with JACK (Jack Audio +</I>>><i> Connexion Kit) : it was a console frontend for cd rippers, still +</I>>><i> provided in Mageia... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> When JACK was imported into Mandrake it had to be given an other +</I>>><i> name... +</I>>><i> so jackit !!! +</I>>><i> There was a tonic controversy on Mandrake forum about this in 2003 or +</I>>><i> 2004 year. +</I>>><i> Mandrake and then Mandriva and and then Mageia are the only +</I>>><i> distributions calling JACK package "jackit" .... +</I>>><i> > So I am questioning the naming of this existing package, and +</I>>><i> would like +</I>>><i> > to propose some rename along with a new name for a Jack1 package. +</I>>><i> > Maybe simply "jack1" and "jack2"? Or "jack" and "jackdmp"? +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > 2/ How should the virtual dependency be named? +</I>>><i> > The existing "jackit" spec provides a "jackit-devel" and a +</I>>><i> "libjack-devel". +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > I think that none of the names are really fit IMO. First jackit +</I>>><i> for the +</I>>><i> > same reason as before (I don't see where this name comes from), +</I>>><i> also +</I>>><i> > libjack (and the -devel suffix) because this kit is not *only* a +</I>>><i> library +</I>>><i> > (there are also the jackd daemon, tools, etc.). +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > I propose simply "jack" as virtual package name. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > How does this sound? +</I>>><i> > Thanks. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Jehan +</I>>><i> Not simple because of this context ... +</I>>><i> If you want to call JACK jack you need to remove first the existing +</I>>><i> jack +</I>>><i> from the repo, and to modify the spec for every package requiring +</I>>><i> jackit +</I>>><i> now, to make them require jack if it is the new package name for JACK +</I>>><i> . +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Post Scriptum : Reading this I don't know if my explanation is clear +</I>>><i> enough ... +</I>>><i> A key to understand what I wrote : +</I>>><i> "jack" is the name of a package (whatever its content is) +</I>>><i> "jackit" is the name of a package +</I>>><i> "JACK" is the recursive acronym (Jack Audio Connexion Kit) of the +</I>>><i> software you are talking about +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Ok I understood the deal. +</I>>><i> I would personally prefer even a longer package name like +</I>>><i> jack-audio-connection-kit. Mageia would gain from having clearer naming. +</I>>><i> Especially if we add the Jack1 alternative. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Now if this is a big deal, and it generates a controversy again, it is +</I>>><i> not that a big deal. The question thus is: how do I call Jack1 package +</I>>><i> then? And can I say that this new package "Provides: jackit" so that it +</I>>><i> works as an alternative to Jack2 (for instance for Ardour)? +</I>>><i> Thanks. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Jehan +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> why not give jack1 the name : +</I>><i> "jack1 - the Jack Audio Connection Kit 1" +</I>><i> and modify the description to include : +</I>><i> "This is the original C implementation of the Jack Audio Connection Kit +</I>><i> protocol (JACK). It is under active development concurrently with jackit +</I>><i> (JACK2)" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>I'll do this like this, then, and propose a SPEC to my mentor, maybe today. + +It might also be a good idea to modify the jackit description to indicate +><i> that it is concurrent to jack1 as well. +</I>><i> And maybe rename it to jack2, if it is not too complicated ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>I guess the maintainer of this package will have to do this. I'll search +for his email. +Thanks all. + +Jehan + + +><i> We could always use provides to accommodate packages requiring JACK. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just some suggestions ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> André +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20121105/35eded3e/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="019757.html">[Mageia-dev] Jack1 package missing +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="019749.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuilding drakx-installer-stage2 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#19770">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#19770">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#19770">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#19770">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |