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+ <B>Sander Lepik</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jun 22 10:50:45 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>22.06.2012 00:01, AL13N kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 21 juni 2012 22:21:52 schreef Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Jun 21, 2012 9:10 PM, &quot;AL13N&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so, there's 2 options:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - testing i586 with backports enabled
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - testing x86_64 without backports enabled
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this is still 2 tests, and this is sufficient.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are you serious?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've seen bugs were i586 and x86_64 doesn't work quite the same. Every arch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + repo must be tested separately (be it tainted or release, i'm still not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mixing backports with updates ... until you promise to do all the testing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here and not bother QA;)).
+</I>&gt;<i> I see...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> however, as long as backports is installed, it could still be that due to an
+</I>&gt;<i> update a new dependency from release is pulled, which could conflict (or not
+</I>&gt;<i> work correctly) with some of the installed backports.
+</I>Like has been said for many times now, you should not backport such packages.
+And about the conflicting part - well, at that point you are already on your own, at least
+as i see it. Backports can break updating/upgrading, we can't avoid that (and for the same
+reason backports should be cherry-picked, so you get as little trouble as possible). The
+best you can do at that point is to submit a bug about broken update and maybe (just maybe)
+we can submit the updated package that needs those new deps into backports too - so you can
+pull it from there and get over the update problem. But this should be a rare case anyway.
+&gt;<i> D. not supporting backports
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for update validation of package X (let's call it update A2):
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. testing combination: A,C,E for arch i586
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. testing combination: A,C,E for arch x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for backport validation of package X (let's call it backport B2):
+</I>&gt;<i> No testing
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Validations required: 2 for each update
+</I>&gt;<i> =&gt; this is how it is now
+</I>And for updates it should stay like that.
+
+--
+Sander
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