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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] bug 2317 revisited: --update option should behave like --search-media</H1>
+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] bug 2317 revisited: --update option should behave like --search-media">alien at rmail.be
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+ <I>Thu Jun 21 19:33:18 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 21 juni 2012 17:40:51 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
+&gt;<i> On 21 June 2012 17:36, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; A. fetch dependencies only from enabled release/update repositories
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Problems:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - patch doesn't exist yet and code complexity is alot higher
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - if backports are enabled, a dependency fetched from release could
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; conflict with other installed (from backports or other). thus the update
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; would fail.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Solutions for this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - this is not cleanly solvable, we would have to remove the backport.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In this thread at the moment, I see mostly people having (personal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; preference) problems with how i would solve this bug.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; while they aren't less important, what I would rather see in this thread
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is alternative solutions, or how the problem with A can be solved if it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; happens.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; even if both A and B are regarded as bad, I'd even prefer people to say
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that B is the lesser evil.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; complaining on how B is not good for you, doesn't get us anywhere with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this bug.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So please, give alternative solutions or state how A is perfectly viable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You're inversing the roles :-)
+</I>
+inversing roles is good :-)
+
+&gt;<i> You cannot knowly break things just b/c of one need (which btw was
+</I>&gt;<i> managed back @mdv).
+</I>
+well, the situations are a bit different now, we do have supported backports
+now, and alot of code is now improved.
+
+In any case, i'd like to find out how the above problem was managed @ mdv?
+perhaps since backports wasn't supported, it was also unsupported? and thus
+not needing to be managed?
+
+&gt;<i> You're trading one infrastruture enhancement for:
+</I>&gt;<i> - several new usability issues:
+</I>&gt;<i> o more memory
+</I>&gt;<i> o slower to compute updates
+</I>
+actually, it would be nice to have some data on this, according to MrsB, some
+people have marked release as update media, thus alleviating their problem,
+they didn't think it was a problem.
+
+also, when i read the code, all signs (even comments) pointed to this exact
+solution (all was marked for searchmedia), and only limited on this one point.
+
+&gt;<i> - breaking people installation by blindly installing all backports along
+</I>&gt;<i> updates if they're ever enabled.
+</I>
+well, as i said before, if we strictly require, it won't break. and it's not
+blindly at all, only dependencies for updates marked repos.
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