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Can we? :) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Yes we could :) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> We would just need to add these packages. I see that Mageia developers +</I>>>><i> want to do things correct, but listen this, i have installed +</I>>>><i> Linuxmint 13 Cinnamon (that uses also ubuntu repos) and i have not +</I>>>><i> added any new repos and i have faac available to install. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Couldnt developers in mageia put these kind of packages simply in +</I>>>><i> non-free repository (at least until isnt found a better solution) ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> No! We do know, others (Ubuntu in this case) do not care about such +</I>>><i> legal/licensing issues, but we do. +</I>>><i> So only because someone else does jump off a building do you jump as +</I>>><i> well? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Oliver +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Hum; we can also have another viewpoint: +</I>><i> So only because some countries have strange laws about patents and +</I>><i> copywright the rest of the planet should follow-on! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> just a constatation; not pointing at or bashing anyone. +</I> +Without wanting to complain, this has been discussed several times before. + +We do support installing things that have patent issues. THis is the +whole point of the "tainted" repository. You can do this if you like. + +However we also want to ensure that people who care about Free Software +are also catered for, so anything that is distributed under a non-free +licence is shipped in the non-free repository. + +The problem specifically with faac is that it is both non-free *AND* +tainted. + +AFAIK, this is the only bit of software that we even half way want to +ship that falls into this category. As it's unmaintained and old, I do +not think that setting up a fourth repository (and when we setup up a +fourth repository it's actually five more internally: release, updates, +updates_testing, backports, backports_testing) + +Doing this is a lot of work. + +For one package, I personally feel we've got better things to spend our +time on. For the handful of people that really want this package, they +can rebuild it themselves. There are enough guides out there detailing +how to do this. + +I think it is a far better strategy generally that the effort that could +have been spend implementing and supporting this very special case would +rather be focussed on ensuring that the ffmpeg aac encoding support +works as needed and port applications relying on the faac to use ffmpeg +instead. It does seem to be under active development: +<A HREF="http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=history;f=libavcodec/aacenc.c;hb=HEAD">http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=history;f=libavcodec/aacenc.c;hb=HEAD</A> + +The latest ffmpeg was released just a few days ago. Has anyone actually +investigated the aac encoding capabilities it has? + +This is the most recent discussion I could find: +<A HREF="http://ffmpeg-users.933282.n4.nabble.com/Choosing-between-experimental-libavcodec-aac-or-faac-encoders-td4347417.html">http://ffmpeg-users.933282.n4.nabble.com/Choosing-between-experimental-libavcodec-aac-or-faac-encoders-td4347417.html</A> + +Seems like it would be very much worth looking at the native ffmpeg one IMO. + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="016642.html">[Mageia-dev] gstreamer0.10-faac - package request +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="016653.html">[Mageia-dev] gstreamer0.10-faac - package request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#16650">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#16650">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#16650">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#16650">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |