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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] unpackaged files lurking in the weeds</H1>
+ <B>D.Morgan</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jun 15 16:12:23 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and D.Morgan at 15/06/12 14:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:23 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --- On Fri, 6/15/12, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> From: Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] unpackaged files lurking in the weeds
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To: &quot;Mageia development mailing-list&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cc: &quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 4:53 AM
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 15/06/12 01:42 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, maybe we should do something about this. &#160;My
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> preference would
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have rpm still complain about unpackaged %excluded
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> files, but not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> die, just give a warning instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Personally, I don't see the point in using %exclude to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> exclude files
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> completely from all sub packages. We can just use &quot;rm&quot; in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %install section for that (we typically already do that to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> remove *.la
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> files for example).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So for me %exclude should only operate on subpackage file
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should only be useful to undo any wildcard inclusions:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> e.g.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %files
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %{_libdir}/foo/*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %exclude %{_libdir}/foo/something-in-another-sub-package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %files -n sub
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %{_libdir}/foo/something-in-another-sub-package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That kind of thing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That, to me, seems most logical. I'm not sure what the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> behaviour is, but I would agree that we should follow it all
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> even if the goal would be to push for upstream changes when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, if we want to follow Colin's suggestion, we drop the patch. &#160;The patch changes upstream behavior, and adds the extra usage of %exclude, which as Colin and I pointed out, you can just rm things in %install (or patch Makefiles) instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WE DON'T USE ANY PATCH FOR THIS AND WE USE UPSTREAM %EXCLUDE BEHAVIOUR
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i wrote in big letters to be sure everybody reads well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, that patch hasn't existed in our code for a long time it seems.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Both rpm in mga1 and in mga2 don't have it applied. The link David sent
+</I>&gt;<i> originally is an old release it seems.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+yes this is only when we first imported rpm in mga from mdv 2010.x rpm.org.
+
+the goal is to be compatible with rpm.org based linux distribution. If
+you want to see %exclude behaviour to change provide the patch
+upstream.
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