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+ <B>blind Pete</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jun 12 09:30:03 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Samuel Verschelde wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I re-read the backports policy, and there's a part I think needs to be
+</I>&gt;<i> pointed out before people start to backport packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;We need to ensure that upgrades never fail: cauldron must always have a
+</I>&gt;<i> higher version/release than in stable releases.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This statement is true, but implies more than what it says. It means that
+</I>&gt;<i> we can't backport a package for Mageia 1 with a higher version than what
+</I>&gt;<i> we have in Mageia 2 release (and updates?) media. And this, until we are
+</I>&gt;<i> able to take backports into account during upgrades.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Example :
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia 2 has wesnoth 1.10.2 in core/release
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia 1 can't get a higher version in its backports media
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you all agree with my understanding of the policy ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a serious limitation to our ability to backport to Mageia (n-1)
+</I>&gt;<i> and even to our ability to provide security fixes to backports there (will
+</I>&gt;<i> not prevent it, but will prevent to do it by a version upgrade, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> the common way to fix that kind of issue in backports).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we shouldn't open backports for Mageia 1, and make sure upgrade to
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 3 can take backports from Mageia 2 into account so that backports
+</I>&gt;<i> to Mageia 2 are not stopped when Mageia 3 is released. Then we'll be safe.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>
+This might be an interesting way to restate the problem...
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+Imagine that example package 1 (ex1) is in mga1 _at the time of release_.
+Ex2 is in mga2 _at the time of release_.
+Ex3 is in mga3 _at the time of release_.
+Ex4 is in cauldron.
+
+Ignore backports for a moment, and imagine that there has been a
+monumental security breach in the example package such that
+versions one and two are completely untrustworth and Ex3.1 is
+recommended for everyone.
+
+The obvious thing to do is push updates of Ex3.1 to mga3, mga2,
+and mga1, in that order.
+
+What happens to a system running mga1 plus updates when you
+attempt to update it? Would the old ISOs be withdrawn?
+Or re-released with Ex3.1?
+Or would you have to wait for an emergency release of mga4?
+Or could a separate &quot;update&quot; iso be released along side
+the pre-existing isos?
+Or could on-line updates be made compulsory?
+
+--
+blind Pete
+Sig goes here...
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