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It means that +</I>><i> we can't backport a package for Mageia 1 with a higher version than what +</I>><i> we have in Mageia 2 release (and updates?) media. And this, until we are +</I>><i> able to take backports into account during upgrades. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Example : +</I>><i> - Mageia 2 has wesnoth 1.10.2 in core/release +</I>><i> - Mageia 1 can't get a higher version in its backports media +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do you all agree with my understanding of the policy ? +</I> +No. Well assuming that the backports policy is sane, then no. + +- Mageia 1 can not get a higher version into _updates_ until +the new version (or an even higher one) has made its way into +Mageia 2 _updates_. + +- Mageia 1 can not get a higher version into _backports_ until +the new version (or an even higher one) has made its way into +Mageia 2 _backports_. + +><i> This is a serious limitation to our ability to backport to Mageia (n-1) +</I>><i> and even to our ability to provide security fixes to backports there (will +</I>><i> not prevent it, but will prevent to do it by a version upgrade, which is +</I>><i> the common way to fix that kind of issue in backports). +</I> +I don't see it. + +Most backports will have a version not higher than the which +is provided by the next release and so will just not be a problem. + +Even in the *very* strange situation that the back ported package has a +version number that is higher than that of the next release it is +workable, all that is needed is the requirement that backports are +not made available to release N before they are made available to +release N+1 (Cauldron counts as a release) and that backport media +be available at upgrade time. + +><i> Maybe we shouldn't open backports for Mageia 1, and make sure upgrade to +</I>><i> Mageia 3 can take backports from Mageia 2 into account so that backports +</I>><i> to Mageia 2 are not stopped when Mageia 3 is released. Then we'll be safe. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel +</I> +Extreme hypothetical example: + +Cauldron Core has long term support FF 29 and Cauldron Backports +has this week's official release of FF 41. + +Mageia 5 gets released with Core and Core Backports. Sensible +users get the long term support version. Insane fools who are +trying to use the notoriously broken FF 35 get FF 41 (which is +broken in a different way). + +-- +blind Pete +Sig goes here... + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="016317.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports policy clarification (and discussion) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="016316.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports policy clarification (and discussion) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#16311">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#16311">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#16311">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#16311">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |