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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 08.06.2012 11:38, Samuel Verschelde kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I re-read the backports policy, and there's a part I think needs to be pointed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> out before people start to backport packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;We need to ensure that upgrades never fail: cauldron must always have a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> higher version/release than in stable releases.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This statement is true, but implies more than what it says. It means that we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can't backport a package for Mageia 1 with a higher version than what we have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in Mageia 2 release (and updates?) media. And this, until we are able to take
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> backports into account during upgrades.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Example :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Mageia 2 has wesnoth 1.10.2 in core/release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Mageia 1 can't get a higher version in its backports media
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you all agree with my understanding of the policy ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I see your point.
+In most cases, a backport for mga1 would be essentially identical for
+mga2 (except package file name and corresponding changes in the spec file).
+It would only differ if dependancies differ, which I suspect is unlikely
+for wesnoth or most other games, for example.
+So this means that for a backport to mga1, we should first do one to mga2.
+This would more than likely be done at the same time by the same
+packager, so not much more work.
+The demand for backports to mga1 is not likely to be very high, and
+would depend on a willing packager.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> This is a serious limitation to our ability to backport to Mageia (n-1) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> even to our ability to provide security fixes to backports there (will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> prevent it, but will prevent to do it by a version upgrade, which is the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> common way to fix that kind of issue in backports).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If we already have a backport with versions in mga2 and mga1, applying
+security fixes to both would not likely be much more involved than only
+to mga2. If it only applies to mga1, as long as the version is lower
+than that in mga2, we can always ensure that the version of the update
+remains lower. Similarly for mga2 with respect to cauldron.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe we shouldn't open backports for Mageia 1, and make sure upgrade to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 3 can take backports from Mageia 2 into account so that backports to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2 are not stopped when Mageia 3 is released. Then we'll be safe.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Not to worry :)
+&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think backports should be open until new stable is released. So we should not open
+</I>&gt;<i> backports for mga1 and when mga2 is released then backports for mga2 will be closed.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's the only way we can manage upgrades with our current packager resources.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+A backport isn't going to happen without a packager willing to package
+it. There is no point in arbitrarily blocking backports to supported
+releases for this reason.
+Although I would agree that there is not likely to be many backports to
+mga1, because of this and the lower priority in QA, as well as the
+understanding that the user requesting the backport would be implicated
+in testing it.
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>--
+Andr&#233;
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