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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jun 5 23:41:15 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;network configurations (lacks UI). The UI is planned for GNOME 3.6.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;However, seems that loads of Mageia users have issues with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;NetworkManager, so not sure what to do. Perhaps safer to wait a year and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;hope that other distributions solve the bugs?
+</I>&gt;<i> Approximatively 50% of those problems come from the coexistence with
+</I>&gt;<i> drakxtools and sysinit, conflicting for the control of the
+</I>&gt;<i> interface, rather than actual problems in NM code. Waiting for them
+</I>&gt;<i> to magically disapear won't help much...
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+Ah ok, but shouldn't that all be fixed now that the patch is back to
+make NetworkManager properly ignore stuff that it should ignore?
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+meaning: only look for USE_NM/NM_CONTROLLED (I forgot which), not demand
+more than that.
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+But ideally it would be nice if there was only one way to setup a
+network.. and for me that means NetworkManager :). But drakxtools was
+more advanced IIRC, so first NetworkManager needs to get more advanced,
+more documentation, etc.
+
+Cool possibilities with just NetworkManager:
+<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NMEnterpriseNetworking">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NMEnterpriseNetworking</A>
+
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677148:">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677148:</A>
+(all one bugzilla.gnome.org, seem duplicates, but there is a bug per
+ product, so bug for maybe gnome-control-center, gnome-shell, etc)
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+677144: network: make sure bridged devices are handled
+677145: network: make sure bridged devices are handled
+677146: network: make sure bonded devices are handled
+677147: network: make sure bonded devices are handled
+677148: network: make sure vlans are handled
+677149: network: make sure vlans are handled
+677150: network: make sure ipoib is handled
+677151: network: make sure ipoib is handled
+
+I had to lookup what ipoib (IP over infiniband) meant, article is here:
+<A HREF="http://www.ietf.org/wg/concluded/ipoib.html">http://www.ietf.org/wg/concluded/ipoib.html</A>
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+GNOME shell specific:
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677142:">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677142:</A> multiple nics (NM can
+handle it, GNOME shell not)
+ 677142: network: make sure multiple nics are handled ok
+ 677143: network: make sure multiple nics are handled ok
+
+Note: The support is in NetworkManager. The GNOME bugs are to ensure it
+is shown/exposed in the UI properly. Not sure if available in stuff like
+KNetworkManager, but NM is not specific to GNOME.
+
+All bugs above are really server like things. I thought drakxtools still
+was better at setting up Wifi; and I think that is more important to get
+right than vlan/bridging/etc.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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