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In MCC, we can set up the input method in localedrake, and this +</I>>>><i> >> setting would be system-wide except GNOME about 3.6+. This should be +</I>>>><i> >> mentioned, because it would destroy the unified user experience. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > As said, I don't code. And unified experience I care for GNOME, that it +</I>>><i> > works consistently. I care about freedesktop.org standards. I don't care +</I>>><i> > for differences between distributions. E.g. MCC is great, but I prefer +</I>>><i> > if it didn't exist. MCC is only Mageia/Mandriva, another distro has +</I>>><i> > other things, etc. +</I>>><i> > I prefer something in gnome-control-center. +</I>><i> And here we have the main point, the difference between Gnome and +</I>><i> everybody else. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gnome is a mere desktop environment, nothing more and nothing less. Period. +</I> +You've maybe not been following the Gnome OS stuff then? I have and it's +very interesting. As you know I've been a KDE developer for many years, +but I much prefer the Gnome approach to lower level things. People +involved in the Gnome project are very supportive to drive forward the +core underlying plumbing layers rather than just build abstraction +layers on top to rationalise the underlying insanity. I certainly have +much more affinity to this approach to engineering (as you can likely +tell when I share my opinions on stuff) than the KDE approach which does +quite often paper over the cracks rather than solve the underlying problems. + +So I don't disagree with you with regards to how we, as a distro, should +treat Gnome, but do keep in mind that "Gnome OS" as a whole is something +we will all benefit from - this covers everything from how early boot +should deal with user interaction and encryption passwords etc (i.e. +plymouth) right up to GDM and X11 initialisation (including how to +handle things when it fails) and thus the desktop environment "Gnome" +will come with certain requirements for the underlying system on which +it runs. In most (if not all) cases, these requirements will be for the +general good anyway. + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="016168.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="016192.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#16185">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#16185">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#16185">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#16185">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |