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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans">olav at vitters.nl
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+ <I>Mon Jun 4 14:46:08 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 08:17:44PM +0800, Kira wrote:
+&gt;<i> I got a major concern about the input method in GNOME 3.6+.
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+</I>&gt;<i> According to some source from the CJK community here and in China,
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+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME3 would default to iBus since 3.6+ and very hard to change the
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+</I>&gt;<i> input method since it's hard-coded. Are we also going to follow this
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+</I>&gt;<i> direction?
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+GNOME seems to go to iBus.
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+If GNOME chooses something, then of course it'll be that way in Mageia,
+unless work is done. And I'm not a developer, nor the best maintainer..
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+I'm involved in upstream, so can change direction.
+
+One thing that's lacking is that nothing is clear about what the needs
+are for the input method. The goal is quite simple: it should do what
+you want by default. No configuration, changing, etc, just work by
+default. Only if something is impossible to automatically figure out,
+then add an option. But that's a last resort.
+
+Now, looking from above viewpoint, to make it work by default, it needs
+to be very clear what the needs are. But that bit is totally missing. At
+the moment the only feedback more or less is that &quot;iBus is not good, has
+to be changeable to software YYY and also changeable to software ZZZ&quot;.
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+Such feedback is handy, but not what is needed when talking with
+developers/GNOME. What they need to know is what you want out of an
+input method. For example: if iBus is not good enough atm, it can be
+changed until it is. Extending the functionality of iBus until it meets
+everyones needs.
+
+I've seen a lot of feedback on <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">desktop-devel-list at gnome.org</A> regarding
+iBus, but the feedback was often focussed on YYY or ZZZ software instead
+of describing what functionality is needed. I haven't followed the
+latest discussion though.
+
+If you don't like iBus, find the <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">desktop-devel-list at gnome.org</A> thread
+(can give pointers if needed), answer the questions that the developers
+have about what you think iBus should do (that it currently does not)
+and give priorities (e.g. cannot use iBus if it doesn't do X, cumbersome
+if doesn't do Y, etc).
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+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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