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So I guess I would like to give +</I>><i> options so that entry to contribution is as easy as it can be. This +</I>><i> all started for me when I looked into writing a module I wanted but +</I>><i> found very little documentation, and realised it would be more work to +</I>><i> make my module available in curses as well at gtk. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As far as other contributors, I only have one willing to dive into +</I>><i> code, but it is very convenient as we work together (We just finished +</I>><i> setting up our new Mageia Cluster and so now are ready for more Mageia +</I>><i> goodness :-P ) so a very small group at the moment, but to be honest, +</I>><i> I think that is probably a good thing in the early stages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As I said, I have to get through this week at work first, a week of +</I>><i> deadlines, but then I can start writing some more concrete plans, and +</I>><i> start playing with the code. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'll make contact again in a few days when I am ready to get going. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Tuxta +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On 28/06/12 08:02, Angelo Naselli wrote: +</I>>><i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +</I>>><i> Hash: SHA1 +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hi, +</I>>><i> I'm back to this subject, because, as you probably know, the +</I>>><i> proposal[1] has been accepted[2] and has to be merged with mine[3] +</I>>><i> and discussed a bit to understand what we have to do and who can help. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Il 13/06/2012 14:35, Steven Tucker ha scritto: +</I>>>><i> This proposal may be a bit different to the several others you +</I>>>><i> have seen in that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done. +</I>>>><i> The Ui layer is provided by libYui and friends, and the logic is +</I>>>><i> already there in mcc. With the perl bindings to libYui the effort +</I>>>><i> is no where near as large as a rewrite, which I imagine the several +</I>>>><i> other proposals were. I would prefer it all to be written in C++, +</I>>>><i> but that would be more work than adapting the current perl code, so +</I>>>><i> you see it's not just pie in the sky, I have actually put some +</I>>>><i> thought into it. +</I>>><i> In a first read i understood the idea was to provide a new gui +</I>>><i> abstraction layer, and you told me the suggested libYui library +</I>>><i> is written in C++ with some script bindings (one for all perl) and +</I>>><i> since I'm not a perl programmer and i know C++ and QT (something on GTk +</I>>><i> also) i could help. +</I>>><i> So should i assume you want to rewrite all? +</I>>><i> Steven, can you please point me and other potential contributors +</I>>><i> to your plans? +</I>>><i> Planning is also needed to our proposal to be definitely accepted :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I don't have a lot of spare time, but i will help as much as possible. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Matteo Pasotti is adding libyui to mageia repository so we could +</I>>><i> start using it, I do also believe he's going to help us as well :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Let's start this new adventure... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers, +</I>>><i> Angelo +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> [1] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UiAbstraction4mcc">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UiAbstraction4mcc</A> +</I>>><i> [2] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review</A> +</I>>><i> [3] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:DrakXtoolsReview">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:DrakXtoolsReview</A> +</I>>><i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +</I>>><i> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) +</I>>><i> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <A HREF="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> iEYEARECAAYFAk/rgusACgkQqEs9DA4DquAJcQCgnYoldmMq1+EdON9q3DhXazVe +</I>>><i> pi0An0UUHGGMnJ+X33UVmwi92AHgXM1u +</I>>><i> =wdCu +</I>>><i> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +</I>><i> +</I> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="017109.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.5.3.1-1.mga3 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="017091.html">[Mageia-dev] UiAbstraction4mcc feature proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#17084">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#17084">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#17084">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#17084">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |