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For example, H.264 decoders and MPEG-4 +</I>>><i> video encoders are in main/core, while e.g. AAC audio decoders are in +</I>>><i> PLF/tainted. If one'd put them into an order, IMO H.264 and MPEG-4 would +</I>>><i> be much more prominent and tainted candidates instead of AAC decoding... +</I>>><i> Also, in e.g. MPEG-4 case we have encoders both in core and in tainted, +</I>>><i> e.g. we have ffmpeg in core, but xvid in tainted. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I agree we need rules, but "being covered with patents" does not make +</I>><i> sense, as the patent owner may agree with using it in free software. +</I>><i> I think something like "No actively enforced patent" in core would be good. +</I> +Possibly, but how do you define that, exactly? + +Does a licensing program count as "enforcing" or do you mean something else? + +>>><i> I suppose you can't blame a +</I>>>><i> US company like RedHat for being overly paranoid, but as you said, Mandriva hasn't had any problems. Are there any there examples out of +</I>>>><i> there of distros trying to achieve this balance? Obviously we don't want to follow Ubuntu or ROSA in pretending patents don't exist. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Linux Mint provides a "No codecs" CD: +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php">http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Ubuntu has a patent policy (which basically IIRC says "rights owner or +</I>>><i> packager, please contact us if you think there is an infringement, we +</I>>><i> will investgate"): +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatentPolicy">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatentPolicy</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Note also that the Ubuntu Live CD and therefore the default Ubuntu +</I>>><i> installation do not contain any codecs. By default Totem is installed, +</I>>><i> however, and gstreamer is plugged into "gnome-codec-install" (which +</I>>><i> seems really nice, do we use it?), so that wen you try to play an +</I>>><i> unsupported video the first time, it will prompt to install the codecs +</I>>><i> (it will also show a warning dialog about patents etc, but AFAICS this +</I>>><i> comes from gnome-codec-install itself, not Ubuntu). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This looks nice +</I>><i> +</I> + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011211.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Moving various packages/codecs to tainted +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011233.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Moving various packages/codecs to tainted +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11231">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11231">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11231">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11231">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |