diff options
Diffstat (limited to 'zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-January/011041.html')
| -rw-r--r-- | zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-January/011041.html | 123 |
1 files changed, 123 insertions, 0 deletions
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-January/011041.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-January/011041.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aca66a115 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-January/011041.html @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Orphans%20-%20those%20poor%20orphans%20.%20.%20.&In-Reply-To=%3C4F071A0B.6070909%40arcor.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="011040.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="011063.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .</H1> + <B>Florian Hubold</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Orphans%20-%20those%20poor%20orphans%20.%20.%20.&In-Reply-To=%3C4F071A0B.6070909%40arcor.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .">doktor5000 at arcor.de + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jan 6 16:58:03 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011040.html">[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011063.html">[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11041">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11041">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11041">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11041">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am 06.01.2012 16:48, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: +><i> Le 06/01/2012 16:13, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +</I>>><i> Ah, I see your reasoning, of course, if the packager forgot to name +</I>>><i> the requires then urpmi declares them as orphans. But then, to be +</I>>><i> safe, you have to forget about auto-orphans altogether because you can +</I>>><i> not be sure that all packagers did their homework. +</I>><i> Then you have to forget about using packages because you're not sure +</I>><i> packagers did their work correctly. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So far, still no one proved than 'orphan' status was wrong regarding urpmi +</I>><i> definition of what is an orphan package, rather than regarding their own +</I>><i> personal expectation. +</I>><i> +</I>Maybe the problem comes from the fact that urpmi's orphan definition +and the scope/purpose of the auto-orphan function is nowhere +officially documented AFAIK, and so users think that it magically +does whatever they imagine that this should do. + +I'd like to document it in our wiki, so at least we can point those +people to some documentation and they understand how this is +supposed to work. + +So what would you like to add to such documentation, currently i'd +start with tv's explanation: + + orphan packages are packages that were never directly requested/installed; + they're packages that got installed because they were requested or suggested + by other packages that were explicitely choosed. + Then if you remove the package you explicitely choose, urpmi sees that the + packages that were requested by this one are no more required by anything + and since you never explicitely requested them, it offer to remove them. + + You can explicitely request them by running "urpmi <package>" and it'll never + be in the orphan list anymore after. + + +Also mentioning /var/lib/rpm/installed-through-deps.list and the +description of it from urpmi.files manpage. + + +BTW: why is apropos telling me there's nothing appropriate for urpm/urpmi? +Is that a bug? + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011040.html">[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011063.html">[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11041">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11041">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11041">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11041">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |