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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Sun May 29 14:07:59 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 &#224; 12:50 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op zondag 29 mei 2011 12:05:26 schreef Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 &#224; 11:52 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I've spoken with spturtle about the tainted packages rebuild of existing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; packages (ffmpeg, mplayer,...)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; He mentions he did local builds of those, and is waiting on a BS change?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Everything is on the bug report
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338</A> ( that you likely could not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; miss )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suppose i should've put the link in my email...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Personally, I think this can be fixed after with updates ( ie push
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; updated rpms with support for specific codecs after the release is out )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so this should not be release critical.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I kind of disagree with you here on 2 points:
+</I>&gt;<i> - I estimate(wild guess) that if there is even 4hours between release and
+</I>&gt;<i> these packages appearing, that you're already gonna have at least one person
+</I>&gt;<i> complaining about it
+</I>
+And so ? I think that I clearly articulated my point about complain in
+the past, something about &quot;patch or you do not exist&quot;, some ruthless
+motto geared toward efficiency.
+
+More precisely, how many people would complain if the release do not
+appear in time, after having worked so hard to meet the deadline ?
+
+&gt;<i> - If you say, after release is fine; then it'll likely take more than a week
+</I>&gt;<i> after release to have those packages on the mirrors, because at that point
+</I>&gt;<i> people will just want to &quot;fix&quot; the BS the correct way...
+</I>
+Technically, even before, it should be the right way. We had enough
+issues with stuff &quot;that will be fixed later&quot; on Mandriva side that I
+think we learned the lesson, like &quot;we will clean the buildsystem later&quot;
+
+( so it was running forked version of youri, with no spec on how it
+work, with script auto correcting mirrors silently, etc )
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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