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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] regarding tainted progress</H1>
    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 &#224; 12:50 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> Op zondag 29 mei 2011 12:05:26 schreef Michael Scherer:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 &#224; 11:52 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I've spoken with spturtle about the tainted packages rebuild of existing
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; packages (ffmpeg, mplayer,...)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; He mentions he did local builds of those, and is waiting on a BS change?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Everything is on the bug report
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338</A> ( that you likely could not
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; miss )
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I suppose i should've put the link in my email...
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Personally, I think this can be fixed after with updates ( ie push
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; updated rpms with support for specific codecs after the release is out )
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so this should not be release critical.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I kind of disagree with you here on 2 points:
</I>&gt;<i>  - I estimate(wild guess) that if there is even 4hours between release and 
</I>&gt;<i> these packages appearing, that you're already gonna have at least one person 
</I>&gt;<i> complaining about it
</I>
And so ? I think that I clearly articulated my point about complain in
the past, something about &quot;patch or you do not exist&quot;, some ruthless
motto geared toward efficiency.

More precisely, how many people would complain if the release do not
appear in time, after having worked so hard to meet the deadline ?

&gt;<i>  - If you say, after release is fine; then it'll likely take more than a week 
</I>&gt;<i> after release to have those packages on the mirrors, because at that point 
</I>&gt;<i> people will just want to &quot;fix&quot; the BS the correct way...
</I>
Technically, even before, it should be the right way. We had enough
issues with stuff &quot;that will be fixed later&quot; on Mandriva side that I
think we learned the lesson, like &quot;we will clean the buildsystem later&quot;

( so it was running forked version of youri, with no spec on how it
work, with script auto correcting mirrors silently, etc )

-- 
Michael Scherer

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