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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 16:05, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Dexter Morgan at 20/05/11 14:21 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 20/05/11 11:22 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Package &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Version &#160; &#160; &#160;Release &#160; &#160; &#160; Arch
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (medium &quot;CoreRelease-64&quot;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; protobuf &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 2.3.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;10.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; protobuf-compiler &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;2.3.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;10.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 473KB of packages will be retrieved.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Proceed with the installation of the 2 packages? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can you test new packages please ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Got it. Seems to work great. Thanks :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Is it intended that most subpackages no longer exist and were not
+obsoleted (all the -10) ?
+
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-vim-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-java-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
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+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
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+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-compiler-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-javadoc-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/debug/core/release/protobuf-debug-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-11.mga1.src.rpm
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+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
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+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-compiler-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-java-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-javadoc-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/debug/core/release/protobuf-debug-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
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+ <B>Dexter Morgan</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 16:05, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Dexter Morgan at 20/05/11 14:21 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 20/05/11 11:22 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Package &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Version &#160; &#160; &#160;Release &#160; &#160; &#160; Arch
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (medium &quot;CoreRelease-64&quot;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; protobuf &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 2.3.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;10.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; protobuf-compiler &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;2.3.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;10.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 473KB of packages will be retrieved.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Proceed with the installation of the 2 packages? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can you test new packages please ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Got it. Seems to work great. Thanks :D
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it intended that most subpackages no longer exist and were not
+</I>&gt;<i> obsoleted (all the -10) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-vim-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-java-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-compiler-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-javadoc-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/debug/core/release/protobuf-debug-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-11.mga1.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-vim-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-compiler-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-java-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-javadoc-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/debug/core/release/protobuf-debug-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As this was a cauldron only issue i though this wasn't needed, do you
+prefer them to be obsoleted ?
+i can do it right now if needed.
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 23:30, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 16:05, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Dexter Morgan at 20/05/11 14:21 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 20/05/11 11:22 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Package &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Version &#160; &#160; &#160;Release &#160; &#160; &#160; Arch
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (medium &quot;CoreRelease-64&quot;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; protobuf &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 2.3.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;10.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; protobuf-compiler &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;2.3.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;10.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 473KB of packages will be retrieved.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Proceed with the installation of the 2 packages? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can you test new packages please ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Got it. Seems to work great. Thanks :D
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is it intended that most subpackages no longer exist and were not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obsoleted (all the -10) ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-vim-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-java-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-compiler-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-javadoc-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/debug/core/release/protobuf-debug-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-11.mga1.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-vim-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-compiler-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-java-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-javadoc-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/debug/core/release/protobuf-debug-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As this was a cauldron only issue i though this wasn't needed, do you
+</I>&gt;<i> prefer them to be obsoleted ?
+</I>&gt;<i> i can do it right now if needed.
+</I>
+No but I won't remove them from mirrors if this is not normal, that's
+why I asked if it was intended
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+ <B>Dexter Morgan</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem">dmorganec at gmail.com
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+<PRE>On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 23:30, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 16:05, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Dexter Morgan at 20/05/11 14:21 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 20/05/11 11:22 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Package &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Version &#160; &#160; &#160;Release &#160; &#160; &#160; Arch
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (medium &quot;CoreRelease-64&quot;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; protobuf &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 2.3.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;10.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; protobuf-compiler &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;2.3.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;10.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 473KB of packages will be retrieved.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Proceed with the installation of the 2 packages? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can you test new packages please ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Got it. Seems to work great. Thanks :D
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is it intended that most subpackages no longer exist and were not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obsoleted (all the -10) ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-vim-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-java-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-compiler-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/protobuf-javadoc-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/debug/core/release/protobuf-debug-2.3.0-11.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-11.mga1.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-vim-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-static-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-lite-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-devel-2.3.0-10.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-compiler-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-java-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/protobuf-javadoc-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/debug/core/release/protobuf-debug-2.3.0-11.mga1.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As this was a cauldron only issue i though this wasn't needed, do you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> prefer them to be obsoleted ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i can do it right now if needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No but I won't remove them from mirrors if this is not normal, that's
+</I>&gt;<i> why I asked if it was intended
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes they need to be removed, just that i forgotten ( lazyness who knows :) ).
+
+Thanks for spotting this issue.
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Franklin Weng</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%22Enable%20Wifi%22%20button%20would%20not%20work%20under%20net_applet%2C%0A%20but%20would%20work%20under%20network-manager&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTinPXDBQ9%2BbN0VcSggqsCPiAQsueXA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+When using net_applet to manage my network settings, I found that if
+my wi-fi was not enabled by default, I would not be able to enable it
+by pressing the &quot;enable wifi&quot; button on my laptop. So, I have to
+switch to my XP, enable it, then boot into mageia again and my wifi
+would be enabled by default.
+
+However, if I install network-manager and KDE plasma widget of
+network-manager, I can enable my wifi by pressing the same button when
+the plasma widget is running.
+
+My laptop is Acer Travelmate 6292. The same problem would happen in
+Mandriva too. Does anyone have the same problem?
+
+BTW, what should I do to enable my wifi through command line? Or any
+other way when I am not able to enable it under net_applet?
+
+
+Thanks,
+Franklin
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+ <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When using net_applet to manage my network settings, I found that if
+</I>&gt;<i> my wi-fi was not enabled by default, I would not be able to enable it
+</I>&gt;<i> by pressing the &quot;enable wifi&quot; button on my laptop. &#160;So, I have to
+</I>&gt;<i> switch to my XP, enable it, then boot into mageia again and my wifi
+</I>&gt;<i> would be enabled by default.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My laptop is Acer Travelmate 6292. &#160;The same problem would happen in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva too. &#160;Does anyone have the same problem?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i> Franklin
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hello,
+Do you know what vendor/model of your wifi adapter is?
+
+Thanks,
+
+You-Cheng Hsieh
+</PRE>
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+
+2011/5/26 You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/26 Franklin Weng &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">franklin at goodhorse.idv.tw</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When using net_applet to manage my network settings, I found that if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> my wi-fi was not enabled by default, I would not be able to enable it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by pressing the &quot;enable wifi&quot; button on my laptop. &#160;So, I have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> switch to my XP, enable it, then boot into mageia again and my wifi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would be enabled by default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My laptop is Acer Travelmate 6292. &#160;The same problem would happen in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva too. &#160;Does anyone have the same problem?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Franklin
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you know what vendor/model of your wifi adapter is?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I></PRE>
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+<PRE>2011/5/25 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad has been working on release notes for some days now and updated
+</I>&gt;<i> it massively yesterday
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso1:mageia1_release_notes">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso1:mageia1_release_notes</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please have a look on it and add anything that could complete it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Deadline is thursday evening
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hello,
+
+For Live-CD releases, will there be multiple localized editions, or
+only the 'European set' will be available? The release note does not
+make it very clear, though.
+
+We could also mention ibus, the input method platform, in the release note.
+
+Thanks,
+
+You-Cheng Hsieh
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there
+
+As you may see it in pkgsubmit interface, we are submitting very last
+packages. Main reasons:
+- fix last glitches
+- finalize design integration
+- help to reduce live CDs size
+
+Thanks for your patience :)
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+
+Le 26/05/2011 11:18, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you may see it in pkgsubmit interface, we are submitting very last
+</I>&gt;<i> packages. Main reasons:
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix last glitches
+</I>&gt;<i> - finalize design integration
+</I>&gt;<i> - help to reduce live CDs size
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for your patience :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+do you plan a new rebuild of desktop-common-data?
+just in case this is a forget, you have changed register.desktop URL
+(<A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> -&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/contribute">http://mageia.org/contribute</A>) in svn
+/soft/desktop-common-data, but not pushed the new version in
+/package/desktop-common-data
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/desktop-common-data/trunk/desktop/default/register.desktop.in?r1=1441&amp;r2=1440&amp;pathrev=1441">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/desktop-common-data/trunk/desktop/default/register.desktop.in?r1=1441&amp;r2=1440&amp;pathrev=1441</A>
+
+thanks for your hard work,
+
+Luc
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> I'm a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made
+</I>&gt;<i> publicly.
+</I>
+Well i can't really understand why you are so against epoch,
+anyway I seem to recall a discussion on this subject
+in which many were in favour of epoch, not all but many.
+
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why do we start a new distro then, if it's to reproduce the errors made
+</I>&gt;<i> in the previous one ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn't raising an error.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;(same goes for many endusers)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I disagree. THat's one of the most important reading when I go from RHEL
+</I>&gt;<i> 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I'm using.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to
+</I>&gt;<i> solve their issue/question.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good
+</I>&gt;<i> reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you'll do next
+</I>&gt;<i> week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO
+</I>&gt;<i> more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of
+</I>&gt;<i> users of a package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking any
+</I>&gt;<i> decision and documented it
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made
+</I>&gt;<i> publicly.
+</I>
+This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have
+started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a
+couple of days before release may be a bit late.
+
+--
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+<PRE>2011/5/26 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/25 Bruno Cornec &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Bruno.Cornec at hp.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why do we start a new distro then, if it's to reproduce the errors made
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in the previous one ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn't raising an error.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;(same goes for many endusers)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I disagree. THat's one of the most important reading when I go from RHEL
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I'm using.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> solve their issue/question.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you'll do next
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users of a package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> decision and documented it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> publicly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have
+</I>&gt;<i> started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a
+</I>&gt;<i> couple of days before release may be a bit late.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+hi wobo
+
+Discussion was started some weeks ago IIRC
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>2011/5/26 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/26 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/25 Bruno Cornec &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Bruno.Cornec at hp.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why do we start a new distro then, if it's to reproduce the errors made
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the previous one ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn't raising an error.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;(same goes for many endusers)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I disagree. THat's one of the most important reading when I go from RHEL
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I'm using.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> solve their issue/question.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you'll do next
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> users of a package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> decision and documented it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> publicly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> couple of days before release may be a bit late.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> hi wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Discussion was started some weeks ago IIRC
+</I>
+Ok, so I missed it. But then there was a real public discussion.
+Well, then the only point Bruno may be disappointed about is that not
+as many people participated in that discussion as he expected. Nothing
+to blame anybody about.
+
+--
+wobo
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+&gt;<i> Please have a look on it and add anything that could complete it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Deadline is thursday evening
+</I>
+I have added my microscopic contribution in the list of Window Manager
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+
+cheers,
+chris.
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+&gt;<i> Please have a look on it and add anything that could complete it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Deadline is thursday evening
+</I>shouldn't system-config-printer be listed among the configuration tools?
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+&gt;<i> Please have a look on it and add anything that could complete it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Deadline is thursday evening
+</I>And what about IDEs?
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le mercredi 25 mai 2011 17:36:29, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 24/05/11 17:21 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 24/05/11 17:01 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; On 24 May 2011 17:56, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Done.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We are in freeze. If we say &quot;no&quot; to security change, I see no reason
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to say yes to others stuff.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; It is not a change on existing package, but a new package, so I think
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; it is unlikely to create regression.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Yes it can.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; It may have Provides on an already existing package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; It may have Obsoletes on an already existing package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; It may have provides file requested by another package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; That wouldn't be the first time....
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; True. These don't apply to this package, but I understand the risks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Anyway, this is the last one from me until the updates are open :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Actually there was a cockup in here after all. I forgot to fix the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; categories after &quot;liberating&quot; the base SPEC from fedora.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've updated it to something sensible now so if the categories in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; drakrpm etc. are considered important enough, then this should be pushed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; through.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry! :$
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I support this request because after the release it will be too late : we will
+</I>&gt;<i> have category pollution in rpmdrake and mageia-app-db, which we will not be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to fix with an update.
+</I>
+Pushed by misc.
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+<PRE>Am 24.05.2011 11:02, schrieb Anne nicolas:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/24 Oliver Burger&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For fixing a rather strange German translation (already fixed in svn),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please rebuild drakx-net before build of final ISOs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I cannot see any changes since last release...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+But there is one. Commit by me on 18th May, which is not yet in the
+distribution(0.97-1.mga1). Would be really great, if this really strage
+translation will not be shipped with the final release.
+
+(Sorry for missing this topic.)
+
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+<PRE>On 26 May 2011 14:42, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/26 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/25 Bruno Cornec &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Bruno.Cornec at hp.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why do we start a new distro then, if it's to reproduce the errors made
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the previous one ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn't raising an error.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;(same goes for many endusers)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I disagree. THat's one of the most important reading when I go from RHEL
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I'm using.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> solve their issue/question.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you'll do next
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> users of a package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> decision and documented it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> publicly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> couple of days before release may be a bit late.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> hi wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Discussion was started some weeks ago IIRC
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+And on this very ML
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110501/004326.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110501/004326.html</A>
+
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+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>On 26 May 2011 14:42, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/26 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/25 Bruno Cornec &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Bruno.Cornec at hp.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why do we start a new distro then, if it's to reproduce the errors made
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the previous one ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn't raising an error.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;(same goes for many endusers)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I disagree. THat's one of the most important reading when I go from RHEL
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I'm using.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> solve their issue/question.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you'll do next
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> users of a package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> decision and documented it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> publicly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> couple of days before release may be a bit late.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> hi wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Discussion was started some weeks ago IIRC
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+And on this very ML
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110501/004326.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110501/004326.html</A>
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>2011/5/26 Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 26 May 2011 14:42, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/26 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/25 Bruno Cornec &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Bruno.Cornec at hp.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I><A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498</A>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why do we start a new distro then, if it's to reproduce the errors made
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the previous one ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn't raising an error.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (same goes for many endusers)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I disagree. THat's one of the most important reading when I go from
+</I>RHEL
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I'm using.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> solve their issue/question.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you'll do next
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> users of a package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking
+</I>any
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> decision and documented it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (
+</I><A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</A>
+)
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> publicly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> couple of days before release may be a bit late.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hi wobo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Discussion was started some weeks ago IIRC
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As a reminder, release notes are on a wiki. You can add yourself your
+contribution :)
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004999.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="4999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005000.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="5000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005001.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Enable Wifi&quot; button would not work under net_applet, but would work under network-manager
+</A><A NAME="5001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Franklin Weng
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005002.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Enable Wifi&quot; button would not work under net_applet, but would work under network-manager
+</A><A NAME="5002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005003.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Enable Wifi&quot; button would not work under net_applet, but would work under network-manager
+</A><A NAME="5003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Franklin Weng
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005004.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005005.html">[Mageia-dev] Last submits in progress
+</A><A NAME="5005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005006.html">[Mageia-dev] Last submits in progress
+</A><A NAME="5006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005007.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005008.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005009.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005010.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005011.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005012.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005013.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005014.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: python-planet
+</A><A NAME="5014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005015.html">[Mageia-dev] REBUILD REQUEST : drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="5015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005017.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005018.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu May 26 17:27:22 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu May 26 17:28:49 CEST 2011</i>
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+ <h1>26 May 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu May 26 00:24:00 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu May 26 17:27:22 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 21<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005001.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Enable Wifi&quot; button would not work under net_applet, but would work under network-manager
+</A><A NAME="5001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Franklin Weng
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005002.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Enable Wifi&quot; button would not work under net_applet, but would work under network-manager
+</A><A NAME="5002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005003.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Enable Wifi&quot; button would not work under net_applet, but would work under network-manager
+</A><A NAME="5003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Franklin Weng
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005014.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: python-planet
+</A><A NAME="5014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005005.html">[Mageia-dev] Last submits in progress
+</A><A NAME="5005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005006.html">[Mageia-dev] Last submits in progress
+</A><A NAME="5006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004997.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="4997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004998.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="4998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004999.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="4999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005000.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="5000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005015.html">[Mageia-dev] REBUILD REQUEST : drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="5015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005004.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005007.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005008.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005009.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005010.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005011.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005012.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005013.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005017.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005018.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu May 26 17:27:22 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu May 26 17:28:49 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>26 May 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu May 26 00:24:00 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu May 26 17:27:22 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 21<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01306362240- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004997.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="4997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306362240-01306362639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004998.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="4998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306362240-01306362639-01306362852- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004999.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="4999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306362240-01306362639-01306362852-01306363380- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005000.html">[Mageia-dev] protobuf package problem
+</A><A NAME="5000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306376001- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005001.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Enable Wifi&quot; button would not work under net_applet, but would work under network-manager
+</A><A NAME="5001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Franklin Weng
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306376001-01306381246- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005002.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Enable Wifi&quot; button would not work under net_applet, but would work under network-manager
+</A><A NAME="5002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306376001-01306381246-01306381852- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005003.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Enable Wifi&quot; button would not work under net_applet, but would work under network-manager
+</A><A NAME="5003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Franklin Weng
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306394433- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005004.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306401489- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005005.html">[Mageia-dev] Last submits in progress
+</A><A NAME="5005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306401489-01306402523- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005006.html">[Mageia-dev] Last submits in progress
+</A><A NAME="5006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306409330- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005007.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306411158- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005008.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306411158-01306413776- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005009.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306411158-01306413776-01306414813- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005010.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01306411158-01306413776-01306423516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005017.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306411158-01306413776-01306423516-01306423642- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005018.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306417737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005011.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306418121- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005012.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306418217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005013.html">[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder
+</A><A NAME="5013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306419122- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005014.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: python-planet
+</A><A NAME="5014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306422340- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005015.html">[Mageia-dev] REBUILD REQUEST : drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="5015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu May 26 17:27:22 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu May 26 17:28:49 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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