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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder</H1>
<B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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<I>Thu May 26 15:00:13 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>2011/5/26 Anne nicolas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>>:
><i> 2011/5/26 Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>:
</I>>><i> 2011/5/25 Bruno Cornec <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Bruno.Cornec at hp.com</A>>:
</I>>>><i> Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:
</I>>>>><i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&r2=96498</A>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Why do we start a new distro then, if it's to reproduce the errors made
</I>>>><i> in the previous one ?
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn't raising an error.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes
</I>>>>><i>    (same goes for many endusers)
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> I disagree. THat's one of the most important reading when I go from RHEL
</I>>>><i> 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I'm using.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> It's much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to
</I>>>><i> solve their issue/question.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good
</I>>>><i> reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you'll do next
</I>>>><i> week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO
</I>>>><i> more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of
</I>>>><i> users of a package.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking any
</I>>>><i> decision and documented it
</I>>>><i> (<A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</A>)
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> I'm a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made
</I>>>><i> publicly.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have
</I>>><i> started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a
</I>>><i> couple of days before release may be a bit late.
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> hi wobo
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Discussion was started some weeks ago IIRC
</I>
Ok, so I missed it. But then there was a real public discussion.
Well, then the only point Bruno may be disappointed about is that not
as many people participated in that discussion as he expected. Nothing
to blame anybody about.
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wobo
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