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Those how do care can just uncheck the non-free +</I>><i> part +</I>><i> >>> of the DVD. :) +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Yep, it could just be an option. The desktop selection step seems +</I>><i> to be a +</I>><i> >> good place in the installer to include it, it is visible enough, +</I>><i> and +</I>><i> >> right before packages installation. Though it would have to be +</I>><i> renamed. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> We could have a checkbox "Install proprietary drivers if needed +</I>><i> >> (non-free software)", ticked by default. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> perfect solution :) +</I> +Maybe for you. Maybe for me. But, the *real* question is, would this discourage some of our target market from using our distribution. + +IOW, we *must* get community input (after documenting some proposals). + +><i> > Are you aware that this would mean that Mageia is not a "free +</I>><i> > distribution" as planned? No matter how you phrase the question and +</I>><i> > how many checkboxes a user would have to check, if non-free +</I>><i> contents +</I>><i> > is included in an ISO it is not a free ISO anymore. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mageia the distribution includes non-free software. We are talking +</I>><i> about what we include on the ISO. +</I>><i> If users want to exclude installing any non-free packages, this +</I>><i> check-box solution solves the problem nicely. +</I> +Depends on what guidelines you follow. E.g., some might say there shouldn't be a checkbox at all. Some might say the checkbox should be disabled by default. Some might say that there should be no non-free software on the default media. + +><i> So users that want to ensure that their installation works "out of the +</I>><i> +</I>><i> box" will be satisfied. +</I>><i> And purists that don't mind some things not working, can avoid +</I>><i> installing non-free drivers. +</I> +"Can avoid" and "guaranteed to never occur" are not the same, and some users may want the latter. + +><i> Sounds like a win-win solution to me :) +</I> +But, again, this is subjective, you are presenting your preference, and yours may not be the only one we should cater to. + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003705.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003649.html">[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3646">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3646">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3646">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3646">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |