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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com
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+ <I>Wed Mar 9 00:40:51 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/3/9 Rapha&#235;l Jadot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ashledombos at hodo.fr</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/8 Balcaen John &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">balcaen.john at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le Tuesday 08 March 2011 18:11:11, Per &#216;yvind Karlsen a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Tsktsk, my post probably ends up being labelled as flamebait, troll, too
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> long and boring, biased and what not..
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This list is not write only...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you've got personnal problem with dmorgan just send him a personal email i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't care, but i guess that ennael wrote 3 hours before this last mail from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you that mageia seems to have choose rpm.org so maybe we can really close this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subject/thread for now instead of talking again &amp; again about the fantastic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm(5).org feature/upstream/it's a revolution/another apple commercial
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here/etc etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's just boring...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mm ?
+</I>&gt;<i> I have not the feeling that it was the subject... i read again... ok
+</I>&gt;<i> he seems to have a great +1 to rpm5, but i did not see that he wanted
+</I>&gt;<i> insisted or moan in order we use rpm5...
+</I>&gt;<i> The mails are hard to read, and long, and very technicals, &#160;but what
+</I>&gt;<i> catched my eyes is some things like
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;level of compatibility&quot; between Mageia &amp; rpm5 is far greater than any
+</I>&gt;<i> other (with
+</I>&gt;<i> other rpm5 based distros being more compatible with Mageia than Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> is with non-rpm5 based distros as well&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> So it doesn't mean we have to move to rpm5 for being compatible with
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm5, so where is the problem ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just wonder, why having discussions about technical things like
+</I>&gt;<i> adults is impossible ? are rpm.org and rpm5 religions ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if Per Oyvind offers help, unless there are hidden things i do not
+</I>&gt;<i> understand, and if he can improve rpm.org or compatibility stuff or
+</I>&gt;<i> whatever, why nobody says &quot;ok, why not, tell us, maybe you could help,
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe not&quot; Did not find it (at least in this ML)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems it's not the first time, in this mail
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> he told &#160;&quot;(if interested, I could help assist you on writing something
+</I>&gt;<i> equivalent for compatibility wrapping similar to what I did in the
+</I>&gt;<i> past with rpm4compat.h &amp; rpm46compat.h to make ie. URPM able to use
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm 4.4 &amp; 4.6 api with rpm5, let's say rpm5compat.h or something).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Whatever you end up doing, don't be afraid of asking or trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> communicate on, the mutual benefits of collaboration are rather
+</I>&gt;<i> obvious. &lt;;o)
+</I>&gt;<i> If not, sorry for imposing.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This mail had no answer, so what, is this guy a kind of antichrist of
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm , talking with sugar words and trying to backstab you ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And at least, If the question are asked over and over, why is there so
+</I>&gt;<i> few things in archives about it ? Sure every one knows mageia will not
+</I>&gt;<i> hurry to go to rpm5 tomorow, and so what ? If some are bored about
+</I>&gt;<i> some related questions, why not opening a FAQ that explain it, or that
+</I>&gt;<i> just point to the related archive/topic (which could be this one) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry but I hate people bashing when i don't understand it. So if
+</I>&gt;<i> there are personal anger, try to get over, or explain and communicate
+</I>&gt;<i> better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> RJ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+How many times is Mageia going to say &quot;thanks, but no thanks&quot;? how
+many more bug reports/breakage does cooker have to suffer to make it
+clear that Mageia doesn't want the same headache, in the near future
+at all?
+
+Personally I don't want to see mageia-dev ML have the same
+rpm5-main-water-pipe explode in it like what happened in cooker@,
+suddenly rpm5 is the answer to everything, from Jeff Johnson's point
+of view, well, good for you. :)
+
+You wanna know why people can't communicate better? see how long
+proyvind's emails usually are. You didn't get bored? :)
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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